Strange that I've heard a pervading super-bass tone in the past few days.

I listened to the blue whale song in the link you provided, and it resonated
with my ears and an NCH tone generator I have installed on my computer. About 33
Hz. The limit of human hearing is about 20 Hz. I can no longer hear that deep a
frequency, but I can definitely hear the bass sound of the blue whale.

The Schumann Resonance is 7.8 Hz, well below the range of human hearing, but it
has harmonics, extremely low frequencies (ELF) around 7.8, 14.3, 20.8, 27.3 and
33.8 Hz.

I don't think the Schumann Resonance is getting lower in frequency, but I do
think it's possible that its harmonics are becoming more audible to more people.

Zy.


--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, Anna Webb <electricwind@...> wrote:
>
> Very cool article. I wonder if the whale's song goes along with the
> schumann resonance? It is supposed to have lowered in frequency over
> the past several decades, right? Anna
>
> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/blue-whale-song-mystery/
>

Very cool article. I wonder if the whale's song goes along with the
schumann resonance? It is supposed to have lowered in frequency over
the past several decades, right? Anna

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/blue-whale-song-mystery/

ah....

methinks i should have "heel" stamped on my forehead :(

i thought this was an off-topic post, but then thought "ah well, let's try to
help here..."

what a fool i am

but well spotted anna

  regards


j.*A*.g
"stranger than we can suppose"
_________________________________




________________________________
From: Anna Webb <electricwind@...>
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 4 December, 2009 16:53:14
Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: food tasting, tasting chemicals and loss
of taste

She posted this to several different groups - so I have a feeling,
April is going to TELL us what this is and I would guess, she'll also
sell something for it!
Aloha, Anna

On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:32 PM, zyzygyz wrote:

> April, if it's not the obvious, then it could be due to smoking,
> change of environment, moving, pets, allergies, I don't know, I'm a
> male. Am I the only one with an opinion about this?
>
> Zy.
>
>
> --- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, April Dahlenburg
> <adahlenburg@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok for some time now - about 2 years I have been "losing" taste in
> > foods intermittently. It is finally to the point where I taste food
> > now maybe 3 days a month and the rest of the time all foods are just
> > very dampered and bland, even chocolate, gourmet cheeses, old
> trusted
> > favorites.
> >
> > That was a gradual process and daily I don't know if food will
> "taste"
> > or not. Most days it is a "not".
> >
> > Well in the last 2 weeks I have notices that tasteless has now been
> > replaced with distaste. Besides fresh fruits and vegetables just
> about
> > everything I taste, is awful. It tastes and smells like it has
> > chemicals or something. There is a new aftertaste and bitterness.
> It's
> > not everything, but a lot of things. Last nights seasoned french
> fries
> > (frozen) and honey chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese (I can not
> > even eat kraft mac n cheese anymore) pudding, it all just tastes so
> > NASTY. Lunchmeat, bread...though cheese still tastes ok (just bland)
> > for drinks I only drink bottled water or triple filtered tap water
> and
> > decaf iced tea made from filtered water.
> >
> > I have heard your tastebuds change every 7 years, so it could be
> > possibly since I just turned 36, though it would be a year behind. I
> > was just wondering if anyone else is having any tasting issues!
> >
> > Or also if anyone has any insight as to what this may be implying?
> >
> > namaste
> > april
> >
>
>
>



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I considered environmental factors.

I am thinking nerve damage was done due to dental work.

I made ham and potatoes last night and it smelled and tasted!

This is good.

Sweets and processed stuff still taste strange and bad, but I can live on
ham and potatoes :)


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She posted this to several different groups - so I have a feeling,
April is going to TELL us what this is and I would guess, she'll also
sell something for it!
Aloha, Anna

On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:32 PM, zyzygyz wrote:

> April, if it's not the obvious, then it could be due to smoking,
> change of environment, moving, pets, allergies, I don't know, I'm a
> male. Am I the only one with an opinion about this?
>
> Zy.
>
>
> --- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, April Dahlenburg
> <adahlenburg@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok for some time now - about 2 years I have been "losing" taste in
> > foods intermittently. It is finally to the point where I taste food
> > now maybe 3 days a month and the rest of the time all foods are just
> > very dampered and bland, even chocolate, gourmet cheeses, old
> trusted
> > favorites.
> >
> > That was a gradual process and daily I don't know if food will
> "taste"
> > or not. Most days it is a "not".
> >
> > Well in the last 2 weeks I have notices that tasteless has now been
> > replaced with distaste. Besides fresh fruits and vegetables just
> about
> > everything I taste, is awful. It tastes and smells like it has
> > chemicals or something. There is a new aftertaste and bitterness.
> It's
> > not everything, but a lot of things. Last nights seasoned french
> fries
> > (frozen) and honey chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese (I can not
> > even eat kraft mac n cheese anymore) pudding, it all just tastes so
> > NASTY. Lunchmeat, bread...though cheese still tastes ok (just bland)
> > for drinks I only drink bottled water or triple filtered tap water
> and
> > decaf iced tea made from filtered water.
> >
> > I have heard your tastebuds change every 7 years, so it could be
> > possibly since I just turned 36, though it would be a year behind. I
> > was just wondering if anyone else is having any tasting issues!
> >
> > Or also if anyone has any insight as to what this may be implying?
> >
> > namaste
> > april
> >
>
>
>



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you might have nasal polyps, or some similar nasal obstruction.

mine came on following moving to an area of poor air quality and took a  few
years to get to its worst, following which an op sorted it out and my sense of
smel and taste returned.

10 years on, i have intermittant smell and taste issues.

hope this helps

  regards


j.*A*.g
"stranger than we can suppose"
_________________________________




________________________________
From: April Dahlenburg <adahlenburg@...>
To: SpiritualPrep2012@yahoogroups.com; HumanityHealing@yahoogroups.com;
indigo-adults@yahoogroups.com; Open-your-mind@yahoogroups.com;
timewavezero2012@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 2 December, 2009 22:05:28
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] food tasting, tasting chemicals and loss of taste

Ok for some time now - about 2 years I have been "losing" taste in
foods intermittently.  It is finally to the point where I taste food
now maybe 3 days a month and the rest of the time all foods are just
very dampered and bland, even chocolate, gourmet cheeses, old trusted
favorites.

That was a gradual process and daily I don't know if food will "taste"
or not. Most days it is a "not".

Well in the last 2 weeks I have notices that tasteless has now been
replaced with distaste. Besides fresh fruits and vegetables just about
everything I taste, is awful. It tastes and smells like it has
chemicals or something. There is a new aftertaste and bitterness. It's
not everything, but a lot of things. Last nights seasoned french fries
(frozen) and honey chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese (I can not
even eat kraft mac n cheese anymore) pudding, it all just tastes so
NASTY. Lunchmeat, bread...though cheese still tastes ok (just bland)
for drinks I only drink bottled water or triple filtered tap water and
decaf iced tea made from filtered water.

I have heard your tastebuds change every 7 years, so it could be
possibly since I just turned 36, though it would be a year behind. I
was just wondering if anyone else is having any tasting issues!

Or also if anyone has any insight as to what this may be implying?

namaste
april


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Ok for some time now - about 2 years I have been "losing" taste in
foods intermittently.  It is finally to the point where I taste food
now maybe 3 days a month and the rest of the time all foods are just
very dampered and bland, even chocolate, gourmet cheeses, old trusted
favorites.

That was a gradual process and daily I don't know if food will "taste"
or not. Most days it is a "not".

Well in the last 2 weeks I have notices that tasteless has now been
replaced with distaste. Besides fresh fruits and vegetables just about
everything I taste, is awful. It tastes and smells like it has
chemicals or something. There is a new aftertaste and bitterness. It's
not everything, but a lot of things. Last nights seasoned french fries
(frozen) and honey chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese (I can not
even eat kraft mac n cheese anymore) pudding, it all just tastes so
NASTY. Lunchmeat, bread...though cheese still tastes ok (just bland)
for drinks I only drink bottled water or triple filtered tap water and
decaf iced tea made from filtered water.

I have heard your tastebuds change every 7 years, so it could be
possibly since I just turned 36, though it would be a year behind. I
was just wondering if anyone else is having any tasting issues!

Or also if anyone has any insight as to what this may be implying?

namaste
april

Well, unless they're predictable, like the Leonids, then it's pretty simple to
conclude that we're passing through a comet's tail, in which case it is unlikely
to be caused or influenced by geologic activity, unless there is a long-standing
resonance that has been built up over time.

But this would still be as a result of orbital periods of the comet. It's like
saying the Sun's quiescence is due to what's happening here on Earth, i.e., a
classic case of the tail wagging the dog. I seriously think it's the other way
around. Given the mass of the comet's tail, I think it's highly unlikely, but
then you can't rule out the possibility, given our limited knowledge of
astrophysics.

As for plum-colored auras, I wouldn't know unless one smacked me in the face.
I'm red-green deficient as you may know, so visually I wouldn't be sensitive to
such subtle variations in the quality of light.

Zy.




--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, James Henry <jameshenry334@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Zy
>
> I suppose this is a case of causality. It's hard to imagine that earthquakes
could attract more meteorites.
>
> Well, unless we're looking at things upside down, but, suppose that what's
taken for meteorite reports are not actually that, but are energy that's
realised up from the Earth's mantle up into the atmosphere at certain places due
to particular types of tectonic activity deep below? And people simply mistake
them for meteorites or UFOS.
>
> Also, far fetched as it may sound, there's the possible that such energy could
(depending on the chemical composition of the rocks and the energies involved)
attract, if the charge was sufficiently large, certain types of neos.
>
> By-the-by, have you noticed how much UV light there is around these days,
everything is plum coloured...surreal
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 20/11/09, zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...>
> Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 3:38
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> I suppose this is a case of causality. It's hard to imagine that earthquakes
could attract more meteorites, but a cumulative bombardment of debris from space
could influence seismic activity.
>
> We may not have the equipment to measure how much matter the earth is
accumulating on a time-sensitive basis.
>
> Zy.
>
> --- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com, James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hello fellow Observers
> >
> > I wonder why there's very often a considerable correlation between a high
degree of seismic activity and fireball/meteor reports about the same time/area,
see the spaceweather website today for example.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
> > To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 7:46
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Aloha Jeanne,
> > My pleasure.
> > I use IRIS, too - it's a great global EQ map.
> >
> > I use this link for here on the Big Island of Hawaii to monitor EQ, as
> > well as, eruption updates on Kilauea.
> > http://tux.wr. usgs.gov/
> >
> > Peace,
> > Anna
> >
> > On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, jeanne_allen418 wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.
> > >
> > > I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.
> > >
> > > Usually I use IRIS
> > >
> > > http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ >
> > >
> > > Which shows world wide.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Jeanne
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> > > http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php
> > > <http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
>

Hi Zy

I suppose this is a case of causality. It's hard to imagine that earthquakes
could attract more meteorites.

Well, unless we're looking at things upside down, but, suppose that what's taken
for meteorite reports are not actually that, but are energy that's realised up
from the Earth's mantle up into the atmosphere at certain places due to
particular types of tectonic activity deep below? And people simply mistake them
for meteorites or UFOS.

Also, far fetched as it may sound, there's the possible that such energy could
(depending on the chemical composition of the rocks and the energies involved)
attract, if the charge was sufficiently large, certain types of neos.

By-the-by, have you noticed how much UV light there is around these days,
everything is plum coloured...surreal

Regards



--- On Fri, 20/11/09, zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...> wrote:


From: zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...>
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 3:38


 



Hi James,

I suppose this is a case of causality. It's hard to imagine that earthquakes
could attract more meteorites, but a cumulative bombardment of debris from space
could influence seismic activity.

We may not have the equipment to measure how much matter the earth is
accumulating on a time-sensitive basis.

Zy.

--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com, James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Observers
>
> I wonder why there's very often a considerable correlation between a high
degree of seismic activity and fireball/meteor reports about the same time/area,
see the spaceweather website today for example.
>
> Regards
>
> --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 7:46
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Aloha Jeanne,
> My pleasure.
> I use IRIS, too - it's a great global EQ map.
>
> I use this link for here on the Big Island of Hawaii to monitor EQ, as
> well as, eruption updates on Kilauea.
> http://tux.wr. usgs.gov/
>
> Peace,
> Anna
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, jeanne_allen418 wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.
> >
> > I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.
> >
> > Usually I use IRIS
> >
> > http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ >
> >
> > Which shows world wide.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jeanne
> >
> > >
> > > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> > http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php
> > <http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Is he a friend of yours, James? Trevor Horn! Of course, need you ask, I have the
shiny jacket and the big glasses too, 1979, what a year.

--- On Fri, 20/11/09, zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...> wrote:


From: zyzygyz <zyzygyz@...>
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: Clyde Derberry - music this week!!
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 20 November, 2009, 3:32


 



Oh noes!

Is he a friend of yours, James?

Zy.

--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com, James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...>
wrote:
>
> VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR.....
>
> --- On Wed, 18/11/09, Clyde Derberry <cderberry@. ..> wrote:
>
> > From: Clyde Derberry <cderberry@. ..>
> > Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Clyde Derberry - music this week!!
> > To: "Scotti Benge" <sbenge@...>
> > Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:25
> > Hello Friends,
> >
> > Well, after a week off from playing I'm back to it, yipee!
> > This week I'm at
> > *The Wine Loft* in Mooresville. I always have a fun time
> > there and hope
> > you'll join me this Thursday, "Ladies Night". With the
> > holiday season upon
> > us the Wine Loft is a great place to visit with friends,
> > hear great music,
> > and relax with your favorite beverage. See you there!!!
> >
> > * MUSIC THIS WEEK !!  MUSIC THIS WEEK !!  MUSIC
> > THIS WEEK !!  *
> > Clyde Derberry
> > *Thursday *- The Wine Loft, Mooresville  - start
> > 8:00  "Ladies Night"
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> > *Thursday  **On the Border in Concord Mills*, start
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> >
> > Marie Reid & Rick Edmisten
> > *Thursday *- Marie hosts the *"3rd Thursday Songwriter
> > Sessions* at *The
> > Second Fret"*, Statesville  - her guests will be
> > Desmond Myers & Mike Nolan,
> > 7:30 start
> > *Saturday *- *Daveste Vineyards*, Troutman 
> > "Thanksgiving Wine Release
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> > Brockner **8pm   $5 cover  Reservations
> > Suggested   Rick returns to The Fret
> > for some fun music. Guitars, dulcimer (mountain) and more.
> > Rick usually
> > brings Steve Barker with him! You need to hear this group!
> > Very
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Hi James,

I suppose this is a case of causality. It's hard to imagine that earthquakes
could attract more meteorites, but a cumulative bombardment of debris from space
could influence seismic activity.

We may not have the equipment to measure how much matter the earth is
accumulating on a time-sensitive basis.

Zy.


--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, James Henry <jameshenry334@...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Observers
>
> I wonder why there's very often a considerable correlation between a high
degree of seismic activity and fireball/meteor reports about the same time/area,
see the spaceweather website today for example.
>
> Regards
>
> --- On Thu, 19/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Anna Webb <electricwind@...>
> Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 7:46
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Aloha Jeanne,
> My pleasure.
> I use IRIS, too - it's a great global EQ map.
>
> I use this link for here on the Big Island of Hawaii to monitor EQ, as
> well as, eruption updates on Kilauea.
> http://tux.wr. usgs.gov/
>
> Peace,
> Anna
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, jeanne_allen418 wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.
> >
> > I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.
> >
> > Usually I use IRIS
> >
> > http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris. edu/seismon/>
> >
> > Which shows world wide.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jeanne
> >
> > >
> > > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> > http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php
> > <http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php>
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Hello fellow Observers

I wonder why there's very often a considerable correlation between a high degree
of seismic activity and fireball/meteor reports about the same time/area, see
the spaceweather website today for example.

Regards

--- On Thu, 19/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@...> wrote:


From: Anna Webb <electricwind@...>
Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re: EQ's in Canada?
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 7:46


 



Aloha Jeanne,
My pleasure.
I use IRIS, too - it's a great global EQ map.

I use this link for here on the Big Island of Hawaii to monitor EQ, as
well as, eruption updates on Kilauea.
http://tux.wr. usgs.gov/

Peace,
Anna

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, jeanne_allen418 wrote:

> Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.
>
> I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.
>
> Usually I use IRIS
>
> http://www.iris. edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris. edu/seismon/>
>
> Which shows world wide.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeanne
>
> >
> > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php
> <http://earthquakesc anada.nrcan. gc.ca/index- eng.php>

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VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR.....

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, Clyde Derberry <cderberry@...> wrote:

> From: Clyde Derberry <cderberry@...>
> Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Clyde Derberry - music this week!!
> To: "Scotti Benge" <sbenge@...>
> Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 12:25
> Hello Friends,
>
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> This week I'm at
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> holiday season upon
> us the Wine Loft is a great place to visit with friends,
> hear great music,
> and relax with your favorite beverage. See you there!!!
>
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Aloha Jeanne,
My pleasure.
I use IRIS, too - it's a great global EQ map.

I use this link for here on the Big Island of Hawaii to monitor EQ, as
well as, eruption updates on Kilauea.
http://tux.wr.usgs.gov/

Peace,
Anna

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, jeanne_allen418 wrote:

> Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.
>
> I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.
>
> Usually I use IRIS
>
> http://www.iris.edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris.edu/seismon/>
>
> Which shows world wide.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeanne
>
> >
> > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php
> <http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php>



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Glad to hear it - interesting development with over 100 additional
aftershocks.
Excellent image of the geology there. Thanks for sharing it!

Aloha,
Anna

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:42 PM, zyzygyz wrote:

> No Anna, didn't feel a thing down here. But it was felt as far south
> as northern Vancouver Island. We'll have to wait and see if this
> region is starting to wake
uphttp://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php?tpl_region=west
>
> http://geoscape.nrcan.gc.ca/vancouver/images/earth2_e.gif
>
> Zy.
>
>
> --- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, Anna Webb
> <electricwind@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Zy,
> > Did you feel any of them?
> >
> > 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> > http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php
> >
> > Wow and take care,
> > Anna



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Thanks, Anna, for this new earthquake site.

I've been following earthquakes, the increased frequency and severity.

Usually I use IRIS

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/ <http://www.iris.edu/seismon/>

Which shows world wide.

Best wishes,

Jeanne

>
> 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
   http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php
<http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php>


>




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No Anna, didn't feel a thing down here. But it was felt as far south as northern
Vancouver Island. We'll have to wait and see if this region is starting to wake
up http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php?tpl_region=west

http://geoscape.nrcan.gc.ca/vancouver/images/earth2_e.gif

Zy.


--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, Anna Webb <electricwind@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Zy,
> Did you feel any of them?
>
> 6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
> http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php
>
> Wow and take care,
> Anna
>

Time In A Bottle: Scientists Watch Evolution  Unfold

_http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091018141716.htm_
(http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091018141716.htm)
ScienceDaily (Oct. 19,  2009) — A 21-year Michigan State University
experiment that distills the  essence of evolution in laboratory flasks not only
demonstrates natural  selection at work, but could lead to biotechnology and
medical research  advances, researchers said.

Charles Darwin's seminal Origin of Species first laid out the case  for
evolution exactly 150 years ago. Now, MSU professor Richard Lenski and
colleagues document the process in their analysis of 40,000 generations of
bacteria, published this week in the international science journal  Nature.
Lenski, Hannah Professor of Microbial Ecology at MSU, started growing
cultures of fast-reproducing, single-celled E. coli bacteria in 1988. If a
genetic mutation gives a cell an advantage in competition for food, he reasoned,
  it should dominate the entire culture. While Darwin's theory of natural
selection is supported by other studies, it has never before been studied for
so  many cycles and in such detail.
"It's extra nice now to be able to show precisely how selection has changed
  the genomes of these bacteria, step by step over tens of thousands of
generations," Lenski said.
Lenski's team periodically froze bacteria for later study, and technology
has  since developed to allow complete genetic sequencing. By the
20,000-generation  midpoint, researchers discovered 45 mutations among surviving
cells.
Those  mutations, according to Darwin's theory, should have conferred some
advantage,  and that's exactly what the researchers found.
The results "beautifully emphasize the succession of mutational events that
  allowed these organisms to climb toward higher and higher efficiency in
their  environment," noted Dominique Schneider, a molecular geneticist at the
Université Joseph Fourier in Grenoble, France.
Lenski's long-running experiment itself is uniquely suited to answer some
critical questions -- such as whether rates of change in a bacteria's genome
  move in tandem with its fitness to survive.
"The coupling between genomic and adaptive evolution is complex and can be
counterintuitive," Lenski concluded. "The genome was evolving along at a
surprisingly constant rate, even as the adaptation of the bacteria slowed
down a  lot. But then suddenly the mutation rate jumped way up, and a new
dynamic  relationship was established."
A mutation involved in DNA metabolism arose around generation 26,000,
causing  the mutation rate everywhere else in the genome to increase
dramatically. The  number of mutations jumped to 653 by generation 40,000, but
researchers surmise  that most of the late-evolving mutations were not helpful
to the
bacteria.
Gene mutations involved in human DNA replication are involved in some
cancers. Many of the patterns observed in the experiment also occur in certain
microbial infections, "and cancer progression is a fundamentally similar
evolutionary process," observed collaborator Jeffrey Barrick. "So what we
learn  here can help us better understand the course of these diseases."
Barrick, a postdoctoral researcher in MSU's Department of Microbiology and
Molecular Genetics, developed computational tools to discover and validate
often  complex mutations. "We know an astounding amount about the details of
evolution  in these little Erlenmeyer flasks," he said.
The Nature paper involved collaboration with scientists from South  Korea
as well as France and MSU. The research, said genomics team leader Jihyun
Kim of the Korea Research Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, "is not
only useful in understanding the tempo and mode of evolution, but can serve
as a  nice framework for practical applications in biotechnology, such as
improving  the performance or productivity of an industrial strain."
Thousands of generations later, the MSU experiment continues to evolve.
"Like  a lot of science, our study answers some questions but raises many
others,"  Lenski said.
The research has been supported by the National Science Foundation and the
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.


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Hi Zy,
Did you feel any of them?

6.5 with over 100 aftershocks
http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/index-eng.php

Wow and take care,
Anna

Neutrinos, Arthur C Clarke explores this same idea in his book, The Songs of
Distant Earth (1986). How odd it was to find this out when I picked in this
book early last week that it was about the same theory as the 2012 film (I had
no fore-knowledge about either in advance, in fact I did intend to read this
book years ago but I never got around to it). Also got out a copy of Philip K
Dick's Ubik and I'm reading it at the same time, it's strange both mention the
theme of a "space-drive" device that humanity has to develop in order to
escape,,but what, I haven't got that far in the later book yet...
 
But if the standard theory is not correct, there would be still be some life
in this idea, I haven't seen the film yet and I'm unlikely too either, not my
cup of tea, it might scare me! I think NASA's stranger and stranger theoroes
about what the Sun should be doing and isn't are far more interesting.
 
Regards
 
          

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...> wrote:


From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...>
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] 2012 Movie - key date for mankind hijacked by
emmerich.
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 19:38


 



mlc says:

film director roland emmerich uses the neutrinos and a date with human destiny
(from the mayan calendar) to create hysteria and fear for 3 hours in a far too
loud theater.

he does draw attention to our fragile planet and its malleability. but he wants
us to fear the unknown and to assume the worst.

for one, i was not that impressed with all his special fx and such. the sea ark
proved intriguing, if need be sometime.

but human eradication and restart in his format is not something i will use to
prepare myself for our pivotal time.

rather, as i have said recently at timewave, i consider it a time for which
humanity has paid many dues. and the luciferic net that envelopes our earth can
be cut loose without ripping all the continents to shreds.

divine intervention is a big concept.

i hope a dialog with result from my ideas and the ideas of other timewave mates.

meantime, best to you all.

mlc/john

<zyzygyz@... > wrote:
>
> I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd like to hear from others who have. I do
plan on seeing it, I'm just waiting for the crowds to thin out.
>
> Will the full-on Hollywood treatment (extravagant special effects,
questionable science, historical inaccuracies, etc.) trivialize and discredit
any serious consideration that something extraordinary will actually happen on
12/21/2012 or thereabouts? I tend to think it will.
>
> Or will it create an even greater buzz, perhaps a greater cult following, mass
hysteria, or growing numbers of charlatans and scam artists eager to exploit the
fears of the easily deceived?
>
> I personally have 'feeling' about this date, which is probably not a strong
enough word for the true believers, and probably strong enough to make some of
my empiricist friends think I'm a bit off the rails.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Zy.
>








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mlc says:

film director roland emmerich uses the neutrinos and a date with human destiny
(from the mayan calendar) to create hysteria and fear for 3 hours in a far too
loud theater.

he does draw attention to our fragile planet and its malleability.  but he wants
us to fear the unknown and to assume the worst.

for one, i was not that impressed with all his special fx and such.  the sea ark
proved intriguing, if need be sometime.

but human eradication and restart in his format is not something i will use to
prepare myself for our pivotal time.

rather, as i have said recently at timewave, i consider it a time for which
humanity has paid many dues.  and the luciferic net that envelopes our earth can
be cut loose without ripping all the continents to shreds.

divine intervention is a big concept.

i hope a dialog with result from my ideas and the ideas of other timewave mates.

meantime, best to you all.

mlc/john


<zyzygyz@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd like to hear from others who have. I do
plan on seeing it, I'm just waiting for the crowds to thin out.
>
> Will the full-on Hollywood treatment (extravagant special effects,
questionable science, historical inaccuracies, etc.) trivialize and discredit
any serious consideration that something extraordinary will actually happen on
12/21/2012 or thereabouts? I tend to think it will.
>
> Or will it create an even greater buzz, perhaps a greater cult following, mass
hysteria, or growing numbers of charlatans and scam artists eager to exploit the
fears of the easily deceived?
>
> I personally have 'feeling' about this date, which is probably not a strong
enough word for the true believers, and probably strong enough to make some of
my empiricist friends think I'm a bit off the rails.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Zy.
>

Howdy,

I have enjoyed following Timewavezero2012 group discussions for the past
couple of years.
I recently watched a couple of shows on 2012 that each highlighted some
aspects that I had not heard before.

One show on the SyFy channel is named "2012: Startling new secrets."
This show airs again on 12/21/2009 at 3 pm ET. Lester Holt is the host
of the show. Investigators featured in the show include John Major
Jenkins, Robert Schoch, and Richard Hoagland. Here is a link describing
this show:

http://www.syfy.com/2012/

The other show on the History channel is named "21012 Extinction." This
show is part of the "Nostradamus Effect" series. Do not know when or if
this show will be aired again. There may be free online videos of this
show available. This is the first show that I have seen that talks about
Terence McKenna and the Timewave he calculated from I-Ching. The show
includes an interview with Terence's brother Dennis. Here is a link
describing this show:

http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=481986

-Dave

Nancy,



I saw the movie on Friday night and it was sold out! I had big expectations,
however had seen so many trailers on the movie I knew what to expect. I
think the plot and overall movie was marginal at best. I agree about the
"President!" If they were insinuating that he was playing "Obama," and I am
sure they were, there is no way he would have stayed behind! He would have
been the first on the ark.



I was actually looking forward to Adam Lamberts song at the end "Time for
Miracles." They waited till the credits were almost over before they started
the song and the theater was almost empty. My wife and I stayed until the
song was almost finished and I think we were two of maybe four people left
in the theater. So I was overall disappointed with the entire movie. I also
didn't like the part played by Woody from Cheers, that was just plain silly
and his facts were completely incorrect.





Jeff



From: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Raimondo
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:17 AM
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] Re:2012 Movie - Any Reviews?





The movie 2012 is a total waste of time and money. It is so far
fetched in its delivery and basically they took all the famous
landmarks and washed them out with tidal waves or earth quakes. There
is no compelling story and at the end the President decides not to
save himself. Yeah Right . . . like that would ever happen!

There is way better information and movies on you tube for FREE!
After I left the movie for about a mile, the car in front of me had a
huge mural of the Mayan Calender on his rear windshield. WOW!
What shocked me most is that I went to see it on a Sunday night and it
was SOLD OUT. I hope that means folks are waking up to realizing
that something is going to occur. Perhaps the best course of action
if to constantly speak about the world you intend to live in.

I intend to live a world where people treat one another and all other
living animals with grace, mercy and compassion. A world where we
grow our own food and live a joyful and abundant life embracing nature.

What is your intention?





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Beautiful, this is my intention also and where I'm focusing my  energy, now
and all the now's to come, thank you for your inspiration and  wisdom...

Expect a miracle
Mary in MN


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icoachyou@... writes:

intend  to live a world where people treat one another and all other
living  animals with grace, mercy and compassion. A world where we
grow our own  food and live a joyful and abundant life embracing nature.

What is your  intention?





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The movie 2012 is a total waste of time and money.  It is so far
fetched in its delivery and basically they took all the famous
landmarks and washed them out with tidal waves or earth quakes.  There
is no compelling story and at the end the President decides not to
save himself.  Yeah Right  . . . like that would ever happen!

There is way better information and movies on you tube for FREE!
After I left the movie for about a mile, the car in front of me had a
huge mural of the Mayan Calender on his rear windshield.  WOW!
What shocked me most is that I went to see it on a Sunday night and it
was SOLD OUT.   I hope that means folks are waking up to realizing
that something is going to occur.  Perhaps the best course of action
if to constantly speak about the world you intend to live in.

I intend to live a world where people treat one another and all other
living animals with grace, mercy and compassion.  A world where we
grow our own food and live a joyful and abundant life embracing nature.

What is your intention?

I just checked and it is playing at the local theater 45 minutes away.
I'll try to catch in sometime in the next few days and chime in with a
review.

Most people won't catch the questionable science and historical
inaccuracies. It depends upon if people see it as just another action
flick or if the movie contains "memes" that trigger more people's "end
times" fears.

IMO,
Anna

On Nov 15, 2009, at 12:11 PM, zyzygyz wrote:

> I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd like to hear from others who
> have. I do plan on seeing it, I'm just waiting for the crowds to
> thin out.
>
> Will the full-on Hollywood treatment (extravagant special effects,
> questionable science, historical inaccuracies, etc.) trivialize and
> discredit any serious consideration that something extraordinary
> will actually happen on 12/21/2012 or thereabouts? I tend to think
> it will.
>
> Or will it create an even greater buzz, perhaps a greater cult
> following, mass hysteria, or growing numbers of charlatans and scam
> artists eager to exploit the fears of the easily deceived?
>
> I personally have 'feeling' about this date, which is probably not a
> strong enough word for the true believers, and probably strong
> enough to make some of my empiricist friends think I'm a bit off the
> rails.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Zy.



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I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'd like to hear from others who have. I do
plan on seeing it, I'm just waiting for the crowds to thin out.

Will the full-on Hollywood treatment (extravagant special effects, questionable
science, historical inaccuracies, etc.) trivialize and discredit any serious
consideration that something extraordinary will actually happen on 12/21/2012 or
thereabouts? I tend to think it will.

Or will it create an even greater buzz, perhaps a greater cult following, mass
hysteria, or growing numbers of charlatans and scam artists eager to exploit the
fears of the easily deceived?

I personally have 'feeling' about this date, which is probably not a strong
enough word for the true believers, and probably strong enough to make some of
my empiricist friends think I'm a bit off the rails.

What do you think?

Zy.

Just for the record, Findhorn is not and island, it's "located in northeast
Scotland on the Moray Firth coast":
http://www.findhorn.org/whatwedo/visit/gettinghere.php

Good luck,
Zy.



--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, James Henry <jameshenry334@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> I'm not 100% sure the place that I was thinking about orginally was Findhorn,
I just remember people on the programme talking about their commununal life on a
Scottish island.
>
> It's strange how much we leave behind these days, yet what's past, at least to
me seems to be the true landscape of a person's spirit, I no longer think the
future going to greet us kindly, life on Earth will go on to ever richer
complexity after what seems an aeon to us, yet I think we'll be long gone, (I
think we can sense these things in our "bones") but to where?
>
> I don't know the Author you spoke about earlier, but he sounds good!
>
> Regards
> James
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...>
> Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] james. there is a guy who wrote books in the
early 80s and late 70s
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 16:29
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> from england or scotland. not findhorn, i dont think so.
>
> but a title or theory of his was that life is not a rehearsal. and he created
a uk community. i wish i could recall his name. tho i so enjoy idealism, i
cannot rememeber his name now. book had his face on it. powder blue ethereal
border. i have not thought much of it since i moved in the mid 80s and
surrendered that book to light travel.
>
> i have been to the farm. 1977. was then 1000 people on 1000 acres. summertown
tn. i rode my bicycle there from detroit on my way to dallas. great stopover.
tho dudes who had been working on roof all day were in bad moods. was a great
meal and some basketball and a skinny dip with a few families. smooth living.
>
> but the farm, as it was, came unraveled in the early 90s and remains only as
some of what it was.
>
> i am not a big fan of stephen gaskin but i admire what he was able to do there
without any ruby ridge waco extremists dissension trouble issues overrunning and
poisoning his place. certainly there were many issues. as there are with ANY and
EVERY large group. (see town cops these days. no mayberry in most of amerika.
>
> the security for me to arrive and stay free overnight at the farm after riding
800 miles was very TIGHT. one hour i waited at the gatehouse porch. being
observed.
>
> i had lived communally in ann arbor at the time and had lived there on and off
for 12 years prior. 77 was my last year as someone from ann arbor.
>
> best regards,
>
> mlc/john
> ps i will keep looking for the author/book/ community of which i referred at
the outset. if you can guess, that would be ok.
>
> --- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com, James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi John, I must take a look at it, unfortunately and I don't mean to be
negative, but such communities often don't work out. However these ones did
because the people were not going off to create a utopia but rather it was
community based on a hybrid set of both traditional ideas and more modern
environmentally friendly ones (i.e farming, fishing, both traditional to the
place and the use of new wind technology for power generation). I think these
communities work because essentially the people who decide to go, know in
advance that the greater good of their community in a harsh terrain is based
upon the hard work and effort of everyone that lives there and, I suppose, in a
sense these communities are indeed very traditional and maybe that's why they
work out well)
> >
> > Anyway, I remember looking at a report about this community about fives
years ago on the BBC rural country programme, Country File.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@ ...>
> > Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIMEWAVE ZERO 2012
> > To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 15:26
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > hi james. i like the story about the scottish islands. i direct you to
ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM part 7-10 (on youtube) which discusses monetarism from a
novel pov. partially speculative but not wholly.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > mlc/john just 1139 days remain.
> >
> > James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Anna
> > >
> > > <Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer> Why don't they
choose not to suffer? It seems to me that there are certain negative states like
being resentful of another person's gifts (Think of what William Blake said
about this), like being envious of what a person has, or even how they look
which are encouraged by much of modern mass consumer society. People are told
it's o.k to constantly feel dissatisfied and unhappy with yourself, after all
there would be no "happiness industry" which is perversely engineered to make
people feel anything but happy, in fact it makes most people feel constantly bad
and negative about themselves and other people in general.
> > >
> > > The only way modern people could choose to make themselves no longer
suffer would be (a) to totally renounce the modern world by going to a place or
region which wasn't in "harmony" with it (b) or by somehow creating an island of
the sun within the modern world, by being able to exist at right angles to it,
for example, people tell me that there are totally self sufficient communities
of people on some of the outer islands off Scotland, who moved there about 15
years ago and live quite contently without ever earning an income as such. The
people and their children apparently seem to be much more content (even though
the environment can be harsh) than when they worked for money before. Apparently
many of them moved there because they predicted that the modern world was going
to totally collapse (I guess they were right) (c) by people who can still
somehow create new forms of life out of the wasteland of so much post modern
suffering and alienation,
> > > although I think this artistic response is becoming harder and harder to
maintain. (d) By being able to "literally see through it all" and by knowing
through ones own suffering that this suffering was necessary in order to make
you wake up to the possiblity that indeed miracles may happen to those who
finally have eyes to see them.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...>
> > > Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIME WAVE for the group and others
> > > To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Saturday, 7 November, 2009, 17:17
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer.
> > >
> > > Fear=Anger=Resentme nt=Suffering
> > >
> > > In consciously letting go of fear, humanity lets go of suffering.
> > > Why blame others for our suffering when it is us who choose it?
> > >
> > > In letting go of fear, miracles happen.
> > > Anna
> > > On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:57 AM, mayanlongcount wrote:
> > >
> > > > mlc replies:
> > > >
> > > > ok lenny. that is WHAT you think. now say WHY. please.
> > > >
> > > > my reason for not agreeing with you in this matter, is that humanity
> > > > easily appears to have suffered enough. paid its dues.
> > > >
> > > > now it is TIME for supernature (miracles) to compensate. far too
> > > > long overdue. TIME BANDIT. having made life on earth, hellish.
> > > >
> > > > be well.
> > > >
> > > > mayanlongcount/ john
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hi John

I'm not 100% sure the place that I was thinking about orginally was Findhorn, I
just remember people on the programme talking about their commununal life on a
Scottish island.

It's strange how much we leave behind these days, yet what's past, at least to
me seems to be the true landscape of a person's spirit, I no longer think the
future going to greet us kindly, life on Earth will go on to ever richer
complexity after what seems an aeon to us, yet I think we'll be long gone, (I
think we can sense these things in our "bones") but to where?

I don't know the Author you spoke about earlier, but he sounds good!

Regards
James



--- On Wed, 11/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...> wrote:


From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...>
Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] james. there is a guy who wrote books in the
early 80s and late 70s
To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 16:29


 



from england or scotland. not findhorn, i dont think so.

but a title or theory of his was that life is not a rehearsal. and he created a
uk community. i wish i could recall his name. tho i so enjoy idealism, i cannot
rememeber his name now. book had his face on it. powder blue ethereal border. i
have not thought much of it since i moved in the mid 80s and surrendered that
book to light travel.

i have been to the farm. 1977. was then 1000 people on 1000 acres. summertown
tn. i rode my bicycle there from detroit on my way to dallas. great stopover.
tho dudes who had been working on roof all day were in bad moods. was a great
meal and some basketball and a skinny dip with a few families. smooth living.

but the farm, as it was, came unraveled in the early 90s and remains only as
some of what it was.

i am not a big fan of stephen gaskin but i admire what he was able to do there
without any ruby ridge waco extremists dissension trouble issues overrunning and
poisoning his place. certainly there were many issues. as there are with ANY and
EVERY large group. (see town cops these days. no mayberry in most of amerika.

the security for me to arrive and stay free overnight at the farm after riding
800 miles was very TIGHT. one hour i waited at the gatehouse porch. being
observed.

i had lived communally in ann arbor at the time and had lived there on and off
for 12 years prior. 77 was my last year as someone from ann arbor.

best regards,

mlc/john
ps i will keep looking for the author/book/ community of which i referred at the
outset. if you can guess, that would be ok.

--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com, James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Hi John, I must take a look at it, unfortunately and I don't mean to be
negative, but such communities often don't work out. However these ones did
because the people were not going off to create a utopia but rather it was
community based on a hybrid set of both traditional ideas and more modern
environmentally friendly ones (i.e farming, fishing, both traditional to the
place and the use of new wind technology for power generation). I think these
communities work because essentially the people who decide to go, know in
advance that the greater good of their community in a harsh terrain is based
upon the hard work and effort of everyone that lives there and, I suppose, in a
sense these communities are indeed very traditional and maybe that's why they
work out well)
>
> Anyway, I remember looking at a report about this community about fives years
ago on the BBC rural country programme, Country File.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@ ...>
> Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIMEWAVE ZERO 2012
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 15:26
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> hi james. i like the story about the scottish islands. i direct you to
ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM part 7-10 (on youtube) which discusses monetarism from a
novel pov. partially speculative but not wholly.
>
> best regards,
>
> mlc/john just 1139 days remain.
>
> James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anna
> >
> > <Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer> Why don't they choose
not to suffer? It seems to me that there are certain negative states like being
resentful of another person's gifts (Think of what William Blake said about
this), like being envious of what a person has, or even how they look which are
encouraged by much of modern mass consumer society. People are told it's o.k to
constantly feel dissatisfied and unhappy with yourself, after all there would be
no "happiness industry" which is perversely engineered to make people feel
anything but happy, in fact it makes most people feel constantly bad and
negative about themselves and other people in general.
> >
> > The only way modern people could choose to make themselves no longer suffer
would be (a) to totally renounce the modern world by going to a place or region
which wasn't in "harmony" with it (b) or by somehow creating an island of the
sun within the modern world, by being able to exist at right angles to it, for
example, people tell me that there are totally self sufficient communities of
people on some of the outer islands off Scotland, who moved there about 15 years
ago and live quite contently without ever earning an income as such. The people
and their children apparently seem to be much more content (even though the
environment can be harsh) than when they worked for money before. Apparently
many of them moved there because they predicted that the modern world was going
to totally collapse (I guess they were right) (c) by people who can still
somehow create new forms of life out of the wasteland of so much post modern
suffering and alienation,
> > although I think this artistic response is becoming harder and harder to
maintain. (d) By being able to "literally see through it all" and by knowing
through ones own suffering that this suffering was necessary in order to make
you wake up to the possiblity that indeed miracles may happen to those who
finally have eyes to see them.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIME WAVE for the group and others
> > To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 7 November, 2009, 17:17
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer.
> >
> > Fear=Anger=Resentme nt=Suffering
> >
> > In consciously letting go of fear, humanity lets go of suffering.
> > Why blame others for our suffering when it is us who choose it?
> >
> > In letting go of fear, miracles happen.
> > Anna
> > On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:57 AM, mayanlongcount wrote:
> >
> > > mlc replies:
> > >
> > > ok lenny. that is WHAT you think. now say WHY. please.
> > >
> > > my reason for not agreeing with you in this matter, is that humanity
> > > easily appears to have suffered enough. paid its dues.
> > >
> > > now it is TIME for supernature (miracles) to compensate. far too
> > > long overdue. TIME BANDIT. having made life on earth, hellish.
> > >
> > > be well.
> > >
> > > mayanlongcount/ john
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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from england or scotland.  not findhorn, i dont think so.

but a title or theory of his was that life is not a rehearsal.  and he created a
uk community.  i wish i could recall his name.  tho i so enjoy idealism, i
cannot rememeber his name now.  book had his face on it.  powder blue ethereal
border.  i have not thought much of it since i moved in the mid 80s and
surrendered that book to light travel.

i have been to the farm.  1977.  was then 1000 people on 1000 acres.  summertown
tn.  i rode my bicycle there from detroit on my way to dallas.  great stopover. 
tho dudes who had been working on roof all day were in bad moods.  was a great
meal and some basketball and a skinny dip with a few families.  smooth living.

but the farm, as it was, came unraveled in the early 90s and remains only as
some of what it was.

i am not a big fan of stephen gaskin but i admire what he was able to do there
without any ruby ridge waco extremists dissension trouble issues overrunning and
poisoning his place.  certainly there were many issues.  as there are with ANY
and EVERY large group.  (see town cops these days.  no mayberry in most of
amerika.

the security for me to arrive and stay free overnight at the farm after riding
800 miles was very TIGHT.  one hour i waited at the gatehouse porch.  being
observed.

i had lived communally in ann arbor at the time and had lived there on and off
for 12 years prior.  77 was my last year as someone from ann arbor.

best regards,

mlc/john
ps i will keep looking for the author/book/community of which i referred at the
outset.  if you can guess, that would be ok.





--- In TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com, James Henry <jameshenry334@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John, I must take a look at it, unfortunately and I don't mean to be
negative, but such communities often don't work out. However these ones did
because the people were not going off to create a utopia but rather it was
community based on a hybrid set of both traditional ideas and more modern
environmentally friendly ones (i.e farming, fishing, both traditional to the
place and the use of new wind technology for power generation). I think these
communities work because essentially the people who decide to go, know in
advance that the greater good of their community in a harsh terrain is based
upon the hard work and effort of everyone that lives there and, I suppose, in a
sense these communities are indeed very traditional and maybe that's why they
work out well)
>
> Anyway, I remember looking at a report about this community about fives years
ago on the BBC rural country programme, Country File.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/11/09, mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: mayanlongcount <mayanlongcount@...>
> Subject: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIMEWAVE ZERO 2012
> To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 15:26
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> hi james. i like the story about the scottish islands. i direct you to
ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM part 7-10 (on youtube) which discusses monetarism from a
novel pov. partially speculative but not wholly.
>
> best regards,
>
> mlc/john just 1139 days remain.
>
> James Henry <jameshenry334@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anna
> >
> > <Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer> Why don't they choose
not to suffer? It seems to me that there are certain negative states like being
resentful of another person's gifts (Think of what William Blake said about
this), like being envious of what a person has, or even how they look which are
encouraged by much of modern mass consumer society. People are told it's o.k to
constantly feel dissatisfied and unhappy with yourself, after all there would be
no "happiness industry" which is perversely engineered to make people feel
anything but happy, in fact it makes most people feel constantly bad and
negative about themselves and other people in general.
> >
> > The only way modern people could choose to make themselves no longer suffer
would be (a) to totally renounce the modern world by going to a place or region
which wasn't in "harmony" with it (b) or by somehow creating an island of the
sun within the modern world, by being able to exist at right angles to it, for
example, people tell me that there are totally self sufficient communities of
people on some of the outer islands off Scotland, who moved there about 15 years
ago and live quite contently without ever earning an income as such. The people
and their children apparently seem to be much more content (even though the
environment can be harsh) than when they worked for money before. Apparently
many of them moved there because they predicted that the modern world was going
to totally collapse (I guess they were right) (c) by people who can still
somehow create new forms of life out of the wasteland of so much post modern
suffering and alienation,
> > although I think this artistic response is becoming harder and harder to
maintain. (d) By being able to "literally see through it all" and by knowing
through ones own suffering that this suffering was necessary in order to make
you wake up to the possiblity that indeed miracles may happen to those who
finally have eyes to see them.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Anna Webb <electricwind@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [TIME WAVE ZERO 2012] TIME WAVE for the group and others
> > To: TIMEWAVEZERO2012@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, 7 November, 2009, 17:17
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems to me that most of humanity chooses to suffer.
> >
> > Fear=Anger=Resentme nt=Suffering
> >
> > In consciously letting go of fear, humanity lets go of suffering.
> > Why blame others for our suffering when it is us who choose it?
> >
> > In letting go of fear, miracles happen.
> > Anna
> > On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:57 AM, mayanlongcount wrote:
> >
> > > mlc replies:
> > >
> > > ok lenny. that is WHAT you think. now say WHY. please.
> > >
> > > my reason for not agreeing with you in this matter, is that humanity
> > > easily appears to have suffered enough. paid its dues.
> > >
> > > now it is TIME for supernature (miracles) to compensate. far too
> > > long overdue. TIME BANDIT. having made life on earth, hellish.
> > >
> > > be well.
> > >
> > > mayanlongcount/ john
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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