--- On Sat, 7/3/10, giovanni_re <john_re@...> wrote:
From: giovanni_re <john_re@...>
Subject: [nylug-talk] Join July Global Linux via VOIP Free SW HW Culture Mtgs -
BerkeleyTIP-Global
To: nylug-talk@...
Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 8:53 AM
Watch some videos. Mark your calendar. Invite your friends.
Join in on IRC or Voice. Join the mailing list, say "Hi. :)"
===== 1) 2010.7 Videos:
Motorola Droid Metro PCS Apps, makeitcricket.com
How to write VOIP client in less then 2 minutes, rpdammu
Open Wonderland virtual worlds platform, Nicole Yankelovich, iED
How to Succeed in Mobile, Girl Geek Dinner, Kris Corzine
Schizophrenic Firewalls - virtualized net stack OpenBSD, Claudio Jeker
Using KDE Marble to research your next vacation, Justin Kirby
Meet Google Founder Larry Page, Google Faculty Summit 2009
Building the Python Community, Steve Holden, PyCon 2010
How Python, TurboGears, and MongoDB are Transforming SourceForge.net,
Rick Copeland, PyCon
Introducing Numpy Arrays, unpingco
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/talk-videos/2010-7-videos
== July Meetings - Mark your calendar:
3 Sat 12N-3P PST = 3-6P EST = 19-22 UTC
12 Mon 5 -6P PST = 8-9P EST = 0- 1 UTC Tues 13
18 Sun 12N-3P PST = 3-6P EST = 19-22 UTC
27 Tue 5 -6P PST = 8-9P EST = 0- 1 UTC Wed 28
=====
You're invited to join in with the friendly people at the BerkeleyTIP
global meeting - newbie to Ph.D. - everyone is invited.
Get a headset & join using VOIP online, or come to Berkeley.
1st step: Join the mailing list:
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
Watch the videos. Discuss them on VOIP.
10 great videos/talks this month.
Join with us at the Golden Bear Cafe, Upper Sproul Plaza, UCB
at the University of California at Berkeley,
or join from your home via VOIP,
or send this email locally, create a local meeting, & join via VOIP:
Tip: a wifi cafe is a great place to meet. :)
PLEASE VIEW THE BTIP WEBSITE & MAILING LIST FOR LATEST DETIALS.
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip
BerkeleyTIP - Educational, Productive, Social
For Learning about, Sharing, & Producing, All Free SW HW & Culture.
TIP == Talks, Installfest, Project & Programming Party
===== CONTENTS: 1) 2010 JULY VIDEOS; 2) 2010 JULY MEETING DAYS,
TIMES, LOCATIONS; 3) LOCAL MEETING AT U. C. Berkeley;
4) HOT TOPICS; 5) PLEASE RSVP PROBABILISTICALLY, THANKS :) ;
6) INSTALLFEST; 7) ARRIVING FIRST AT THE MEETING: MAKE A
"BerkeleyTIP" SIGN; 8) IRC: #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net; 9) VOIP
FOR GLOBAL MEETING; 10) VOLUNTEERING, TO DOs; 11) MAILING LISTS:
BerkeleyTIP-Global, LocalBerkeley, Announce; 12) ANYTHING I FORGOT TO
MENTION?; 13) FOR FORWARDING
=======================================================================
===== 1) - See videos list at top of this email.
Thanks to all the speakers, organizations, & videographers. :)
[Please alert the speakers that their talks are scheduled for
BTIP (if you are with the group that recorded their talk), because I may
not have time to do that. Thanks. :) ]
Download & watch these talks before the BTIP meetings. Discuss at the
meeting.
Email the mailing list, tell us what videos you'll watch & want to
discuss.
Know any other video sources? - please email me.
_Your_ group should video record & post online your meeting's talks!
===== 2) 2010 JULY MEETING DAYS, TIMES, LOCATIONS
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/schedulehttp://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/directions
In person meetings on 1st Saturday & 3rd Sunday, every month.
July 3 & 18, 12N-3P USA-Pacific time, Saturday, Sunday
July 3 = Golden Bear Cafe, Upper Sproul Plaza, UCB
July 18 = Free Speech Cafe, Moffitt Library, UCB
Online only meeting using VOIP - 9 days after weekend meetings:
July 12 & 27, 5-6P USA-Pacific time, Monday, Tuesday
Mark your calendars.
===== 3) LOCAL MEETING AT U. C. BERKELEY
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/directions
RSVP please. See below. It greatly helps my planning. But, _do_ come
if you forgot to RSVP.
ALWAYS BE SURE TO CHECK THE BTIP WEBSITE _&_ MAILING LIST FOR THE LATEST
LAST MINUTE DETAILS & CHANGES, BEFORE COMING TO THE MEETING! :)
DO BRING A VOIP HEADSET, available for $10-30 at most electronics retail
stores, & a laptop computer, so you are able to communicate with the
global BTIP community via VOIP. It is highly recommended that you have
a voip headset, & not rely on a laptop's built in microphone & speakers,
because the headphones keep the noise level down. Bringing a headset is
not required, but is a great part of the being able to communicate with
the global community. :)
Clothing: Typically 55-80 degrees F. Weather:
http://www.wunderground.com/auto/sfgate/CA/Berkeley.html
Other location local meeting possibilities:
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/local-meetings
Create a local meeting in your town. Invite your friends. :)
===== 4) HOT TOPICS
Android phones - Besting iPhone? worthwhile? How knowable is the hw?
iPad, iPhone4 & iPod- rooting & running GNU(Linux)
Skype for group video conferencing?
Open Wonderland virtual worlds platform
===== 5) PLEASE RSVP PROBABILISTICALLY, THANKS :)
If you think there is a >70% chance ("likely") you'll come to the in
person meeting in Berkeley, please RSVP to me. Thanks. It helps my
planning. Please _do_ come even if you haven't RSVP'd, it's not
required.
Better yet, join the BerkeleyTIP-Global mailing list, send the RSVP
there, & tell us what things you're interested in, or what videos you'll
try to watch - so we can know what videos are popular, & we might watch
them too. :)
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
===== 6) INSTALLFEST
Get help installing & using Free Software, Hardware & Culture.
Laptops only, typically. There isn't easy access for physically
bringing desktop boxes here.
RSVP _HIGHLY RECOMMENDED_ if you want installfest help. Please RSVP to
me, Giovanni, at the from address for this announcement, or better, join
& send email to the BTIP-Global mailing list telling us what you'd like
help with. This way we can be better prepared to help you, & you might
get valuable advice from the mailing list members.
If you are new to using free software, an excellent system would be the
KUbuntu GNU(Linux) software. It is very comprehensive, fairly easy to
use (similar to Windows or Mac), & suitable for personal, home,
university, or business use.
We are also glad to try to help people with software who join via VOIP.
Please email the mailing list with requests that you want help with, so
we can try to be prepared better to help you.
Installfest volunteers/helpers always welcome, in person, or via VOIP.
:)
===== 7) ARRIVING FIRST AT THE MEETING: MAKE A "BerkeleyTIP" SIGN
If you get to the meeting & don't see a "BerkeleyTIP" sign up yet,
please:
1) Make a BTIP sign on an 8x11 paper & put it at your table,
2) Email the mailing list, or join on IRC, & let us know you are there.
Ask someone if you could use their computer for a minute to look
something up, or send an email. People are usually very friendly &
willing to help. We can also email you a temporary guest AirBears
account login.
We will have wifi guest accounts available for BTIP attendees. Be sure
you have wifi capable equipment. Be Prepared: Bring a multi-outlet
extension power cord.
===== 8) IRC: #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net
For help with anything, especially how to get VOIP working, & text
communication.
===== 9) VOIP FOR GLOBAL MEETING
Speak & listen to everyone globally using VOIP.
Get a headset! See some VOIP instructions here:
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/voice-voip-conferencing
===== 10) VOLUNTEERING, TO DOs
Enjoy doing or learning something(s)? Help out BTIP in that area.
Website development, mailing list management, video locating, VOIP
server (FreeSwitch, Asterisk) or client (Ekiga, SFLPhone,...), creating
a local meeting. Join the mailing list & let us know. Your offers of
free help are always welcome here. :)
===== 11) MAILING LISTS: BerkeleyTIP-Global, LocalBerkeley, Announce
Everyone should join the BerkeleyTIP-Global list:
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
Say "hi", tell us your interests, & what videos you'll like to watch.
Info on all lists here:
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/mailing-lists
===== 12) ANYTHING I FORGOT TO MENTION?
Please join & email the BerkeleyTIP-Global mailing list.
===== 13) FOR FORWARDING
You are invited to forward this message anywhere it would be
appreciated.
Better yet, use it to create a local meeting. Invite & get together
with your friends locally, & join in with us all globally. :)
Looking forward to meeting with you in person, or online. :)
Giovanni
== Join in the Global weekly meetings, via VOIP, about all Free SW HW & Culture
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/
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fyi, please see below.
Regards,
Shivan Jaikaran
http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...>
Date: 7 July 2010 10:53
Subject:
To: shivanj@...
I am looking for someone who is versed with linux to tackle a small
project for me. The person must be able to edit a program I have.
JCarribon
now i feel dumb... all these years i thought linux was an OS now it seems
it's a programming language :(
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Shivan Jaikaran <shivanj@...> wrote:
>
>
> fyi, please see below.
>
> Regards,
> Shivan Jaikaran
> http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...<jason_carribon%40hotmail.com>
> >
> Date: 7 July 2010 10:53
> Subject:
> To: shivanj@... <shivanj%40gmail.com>
>
> I am looking for someone who is versed with linux to tackle a small
> project for me. The person must be able to edit a program I have.
>
> JCarribon
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
lol
http://xai-tec.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 04:47, Stephen Sankarsingh <stephentnt@...>wrote:
> now i feel dumb... all these years i thought linux was an OS now it seems
> it's a programming language :(
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Shivan Jaikaran <shivanj@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > fyi, please see below.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shivan Jaikaran
> > http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...<jason_carribon%
> 40hotmail.com>
> > >
> > Date: 7 July 2010 10:53
> > Subject:
> > To: shivanj@... <shivanj%40gmail.com>
> >
> > I am looking for someone who is versed with linux to tackle a small
> > project for me. The person must be able to edit a program I have.
> >
> > JCarribon
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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What language?
Does this person need be on site?
Regards,
-- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
http://www.trevorchristian.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Shivan Jaikaran
Sent: 2010-07-09 02:30:34
Subject: [ttlug] looking for a linux programmer.
fyi, please see below.
Regards,
Shivan Jaikaran
http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...>
Date: 7 July 2010 10:53
Subject:
To: shivanj@...
I am looking for someone who is versed with linux to tackle a small
project for me. The person must be able to edit a program I have.
JCarribon
I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes, how
do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
Thanks
Carroll Cole
In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt click wil
reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the cli... Not sure
-- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
http://www.trevorchristian.com
-----Original Message-----
From: carroll cole
Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
Subject: [ttlug] security updates
I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes, how
do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
Thanks
Carroll Cole
thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
Trevor Christian wrote:
>
>
> In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the
> cli... Not sure
>
> -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> http://www.trevorchristian.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carroll cole
> Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> Subject: [ttlug] security updates
>
> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
> fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes, how
> do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
>
> Thanks
>
> Carroll Cole
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you want to
update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main only
since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not a good
idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always better
to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something breaks.
You can read more
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole <carroll.cole@...>wrote:
>
>
> thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
>
>
> Trevor Christian wrote:
> >
> >
> > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the
> > cli... Not sure
> >
> > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> > http://www.trevorchristian.com
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: carroll cole
> > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> >
> > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
> > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes, how
> > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Carroll Cole
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Rgds,
Falina
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Since it's debian, it should be a matter of editing that file that lists the
repositories, file name escapes me at the moment. I don't remember if the
repositories are broken up into categories such as security, if so then it's
just a matter of commenting out the ones you don't want(?). If not then
you're SoL... Goodluck :)
/Stephen
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Trevor Christian <doubleOTeC@...>wrote:
>
>
> In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt click wil
> reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the cli... Not sure
>
> -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> http://www.trevorchristian.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carroll cole
> Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> Subject: [ttlug] security updates
>
> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
> fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes, how
> do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
>
> Thanks
>
> Carroll Cole
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
sources.list!! gg
and Falina is right about auto updating.
/Stephen
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Falina Baksh <bakshfalina@...> wrote:
> You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you want to
> update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main only
> since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not a good
> idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always better
> to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something breaks.
>
> You can read more
> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole <carroll.cole@...
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
> >
> >
> > Trevor Christian wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> > > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the
> > > cli... Not sure
> > >
> > > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> > > http://www.trevorchristian.com
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: carroll cole
> > > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> > >
> > > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything working just
> > > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes,
> how
> > > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Carroll Cole
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rgds,
> Falina
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Help build TTLUG by forwarding this to anyone who is interested in the
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thanks will try that. I'm not auto updating, its just that twice for the
year using apt-get upgrade has updated apps on my server and reduced
their functionality, so i want to just install security updates, till
its time to go from one lts to another.
Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
>
>
> sources.list!! gg
>
> and Falina is right about auto updating.
>
> /Stephen
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Falina Baksh <bakshfalina@...
> <mailto:bakshfalina%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you want to
> > update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main only
> > since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not a
> good
> > idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always
> better
> > to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something
> breaks.
> >
> > You can read more
> > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole
> <carroll.cole@... <mailto:carroll.cole%40gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
> > >
> > >
> > > Trevor Christian wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> > > > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the
> > > > cli... Not sure
> > > >
> > > > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > > > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> > > > http://www.trevorchristian.com
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: carroll cole
> > > > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > > > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> > > >
> > > > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything
> working just
> > > > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug fixes,
> > how
> > > > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Carroll Cole
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rgds,
> > Falina
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Help build TTLUG by forwarding this to anyone who is interested in the
> > subject matter or would otherwise benefit from joining the mailing list.
> >
> > Trinidad and Tobago Linux Users Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ttlug
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> TTLUG-subscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TTLUG-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>
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> <mailto:TTLUG-owner%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thats why I like Gentoo, with USE flags u can specify particular packages to
exclude when updating and installing packages
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, carroll cole <carroll.cole@...> wrote:
>
>
> thanks will try that. I'm not auto updating, its just that twice for the
> year using apt-get upgrade has updated apps on my server and reduced
> their functionality, so i want to just install security updates, till
> its time to go from one lts to another.
>
>
> Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
> >
> >
> > sources.list!! gg
> >
> > and Falina is right about auto updating.
> >
> > /Stephen
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Falina Baksh
<bakshfalina@...<bakshfalina%40gmail.com>
> > <mailto:bakshfalina%40gmail.com <bakshfalina%2540gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > > You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you want to
> > > update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main
> only
> > > since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not a
> > good
> > > idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always
> > better
> > > to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something
> > breaks.
> > >
> > > You can read more
> > > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole
> > <carroll.cole@... <carroll.cole%40gmail.com> <mailto:
> carroll.cole%40gmail.com <carroll.cole%2540gmail.com>>
>
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Trevor Christian wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> > > > > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On the
> > > > > cli... Not sure
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > > > > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> > > > > http://www.trevorchristian.com
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: carroll cole
> > > > > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > > > > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything
> > working just
> > > > > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug
> fixes,
> > > how
> > > > > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Carroll Cole
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rgds,
> > > Falina
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Help build TTLUG by forwarding this to anyone who is interested in the
> > > subject matter or would otherwise benefit from joining the mailing
> list.
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I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher cost is
just one reason ....
I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay, but not
with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a Laptop
for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools),  XO 1.5 or
something similar.
What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
Regards, Deosaran
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@...> wrote:
From: Kevin <knagir@...>
Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
Â
I
can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
It
will be love when they request everything be fixed.
Â
:))
Â
kevin,
Â
Â
-----Original Message-----
From:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
Williams
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
To:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
Â
The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
wrote:
Â
Â
In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
etc.
I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
Â
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
From:
Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
[ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July
8, 2010, 7:56 PM
Â
Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
wanted.
Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
well?
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
Newsday
July
5th, 2010
"On the heels of the People’s Partnership’s vow
in the recent General
Election to give a laptop to all
Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
Exam pupils, the Government
yesterday advertised in the press to
invite bids from
suppliers... ...
...From the July 4 date of the publication of
this invitation to
tender, the company set a closing date of
July 15, giving potential
bidders about 11 days to put together
a proposal."
Read article :
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Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 3:13:13 PM
Subject: [ttlug] Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday :
Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher cost is
just one reason ....
I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay, but not
with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a Laptop
for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools), XO 1.5 or
something similar.
What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
Regards, Deosaran
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@...> wrote:
From: Kevin <knagir@...>
Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
I
can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
It
will be love when they request everything be fixed.
:))
kevin,
-----Original Message-----
From:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
Williams
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
To:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
wrote:
In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
etc.
I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
From:
Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
[ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July
8, 2010, 7:56 PM
Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
wanted.
Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
well?
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
Newsday
July
5th, 2010
"On the heels of the People’s Partnership’s vow
in the recent General
Election to give a laptop to all
Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
Exam pupils, the Government
yesterday advertised in the press to
invite bids from
suppliers... ...
...From the July 4 date of the publication of
this invitation to
tender, the company set a closing date of
July 15, giving potential
bidders about 11 days to put together
a proposal."
Read article :
http://www.newsday. co.tt/politics/
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Hmmm - Dell ships w/ Linux. HP, all manufacturers, really.
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Sender: ttcs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:13:13
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seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
Â
I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher cost is
just one reason ....
I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay, but not
with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a Laptop
for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools),  XO 1.5 or
something similar.
What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
Regards, Deosaran
--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@...> wrote:
From: Kevin <knagir@...>
Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
Â
I
can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
It
will be love when they request everything be fixed.
Â
:))
Â
kevin,
Â
Â
-----Original Message-----
From:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
Williams
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
To:
ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
Â
The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
wrote:
Â
Â
In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
etc.
I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
Â
--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
From:
Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re:
[ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
15
To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July
8, 2010, 7:56 PM
Â
Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
wanted.
Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
well?
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
Newsday
July
5th, 2010
"On the heels of the People’s Partnership’s vow
in the recent General
Election to give a laptop to all
Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
Exam pupils, the Government
yesterday advertised in the press to
invite bids from
suppliers... ...
...From the July 4 date of the publication of
this invitation to
tender, the company set a closing date of
July 15, giving potential
bidders about 11 days to put together
a proposal."
Read article :
http://www.newsday. co.tt/politics/
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The other question we have ask is, does the public service, as it is right
now, have the trained resources to maintain and administer Linux machines?
If they do have an MS Enterprise license, we can assume they have more than
a few IT personnel with experience in Windows administration.
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> Hmmm - Dell ships w/ Linux. HP, all manufacturers, really.
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> Subject: Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday :
> Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
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>
> I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher
> cost is just one reason ....
> I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay,
> but not with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a
> Laptop for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools), XO
> 1.5 or something similar.
> What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
> Regards, Deosaran
>
> --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>> wrote:
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>
> From: Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>>
> Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline
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> It
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
> Williams
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
> To:
> ttcs@yahoogroups. com
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> The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
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> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
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> In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
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> etc.
>
>
> I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
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> From:
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> Subject: Re:
> [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
> 15
> To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, July
> 8, 2010, 7:56 PM
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
> wanted.
> Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
> well?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
> Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> Newsday
> July
> 5th, 2010
>
> "On the heels of the People’s Partnership’s vow
> in the recent General
> Election to give a laptop to all
> Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
> Exam pupils, the Government
> yesterday advertised in the press to
> invite bids from
> suppliers... ...
> ...From the July 4 date of the publication of
> this invitation to
> tender, the company set a closing date of
> July 15, giving potential
> bidders about 11 days to put together
> a proposal."
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You can exclude apps with apt/yum/up2date etc too or even specify that
certain packages only be updated from certain alternative repos but that
doesn't really help in preventing package hell.
I've done it for a postgresql installation
eg. https://public.commandprompt.com/projects/pgcore/wiki
An example is kernel updates under RHEL, they are excluded by default but
you can force them if you like.
/Stepheen
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Falina Baksh <bakshfalina@...> wrote:
> Thats why I like Gentoo, with USE flags u can specify particular packages
> to
> exclude when updating and installing packages
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, carroll cole <carroll.cole@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > thanks will try that. I'm not auto updating, its just that twice for the
> > year using apt-get upgrade has updated apps on my server and reduced
> > their functionality, so i want to just install security updates, till
> > its time to go from one lts to another.
> >
> >
> > Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > sources.list!! gg
> > >
> > > and Falina is right about auto updating.
> > >
> > > /Stephen
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Falina Baksh <bakshfalina@...
> <bakshfalina%40gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:bakshfalina%40gmail.com <bakshfalina%2540gmail.com><bakshfalina%
> 2540gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you want
> to
> > > > update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main
> > only
> > > > since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not a
> > > good
> > > > idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always
> > > better
> > > > to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something
> > > breaks.
> > > >
> > > > You can read more
> > > > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole
> > > <carroll.cole@... <carroll.cole%40gmail.com> <mailto:
> > carroll.cole%40gmail.com <carroll.cole%2540gmail.com>>
> >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Trevor Christian wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a rigjt
> > > > > > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On
> the
> > > > > > cli... Not sure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > > > > > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
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> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: carroll cole
> > > > > > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > > > > > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything
> > > working just
> > > > > > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug
> > fixes,
> > > > how
> > > > > > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carroll Cole
> > > > > >
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I am thinking along these lines....
Got these articles from the OLPC newsletter:
One Laptop Per Child Will Provide XO Laptops to Uruguay High School StudentsA
New XO Laptop Designed for High School Students Offers Larger Keyboard,
Specialized Learning Applications.
http://www.arrobanews.com/2010/06/10/one-laptop-per-child-will-provide-xo-laptop\
s-to-uruguay-high-school-students-2/
Multi-Touch Sugar on XO-1.75 ARM Laptop Coming Soon8JUL 2010Chris Ball just
dropped a bombshell on the IAEP listserv - he explained OLPC's software
strategy for the XO-1.75 which should have you itching with excitement:Fedora
on XO-1.75
ARMhttp://www.olpcnews.com/laptops/xo-175/multi-touch_sugar_arm_xo_laptop.html
Hi,
Now that the 10.1.1 release for XO-1.5 is out, it's a good time to
talk about OLPC's software strategy for the future. We've got a few
announcements to make:
XO-1:
=====
OLPC wasn't planning to make a Fedora 11 release of the XO-1 OS, but
a group of volunteers including Steven Parrish, Bernie Innocenti,
Paraguay Educa and Daniel Drake stepped up and produced Fedora 11 XO-1
builds that follow the OLPC 10.1.1 work. I'm happy to announce that
we're planning on releasing an OLPC-signed version of that work, and
that this release will happen alongside the next XO-1.5 point release
in the coming weeks.
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011319.html
Aquatic Sugar: The Children's Interface, Translated for
Adultshttp://www.olpcnews.com/software/operating_system/aquatic_sugar_childrens_\
interface.html
Uruguay Schools to Pilot Windows XO and MS Office8JUL 2009Uruguay's "El PaÃs"
announced on the 7th day of the 7th month that 7 thousand 7th graders will
receive XO computers in Treinta y Tres, Uruguay, running MS Office on Windows.
(English translation via Google)
Windows XO laptops in UruguayThe article stresses that Microsoft and the
Uruguayan Central Education Council (CODICEN, the top authority as to school
policy in Uruguay) will be monitoring closely the experience. This is
interesting news considering that so far Ceibal, run by
the LATU (Technological Laboratories of Uruguay, a government-financed,
semi-independent body) has not shown much interest in monitoring and evaluation,
even though it is indicated this pilot will be also part of Ceibal.The CODICEN
Director, Laura Motta, indicates her concern regarding possible backlash from
defenders of open software, saying that "this is not a general change",
moreover, that for Secondary education it has already been decided to work with
open source software, so as "not to be committed to a single provider".The M&E
process should take up to the end of this school year (late November), and
teacher training was begun this week, the second of the winter school
break in Uruguay. No computers will be provided to the teachers, though "10
will be available in every school library".It is not clear if these XO laptops
were paid for by the Uruguayan government of donated by Microsoft, or whether
they have some hardware enhancement. It is said they are "the same" as those the
Primary school children use already.An interesting "by the way" shared by
another source indicates that there will be no internet connection provided for
this
pilot. http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/uruguay_windows_xo_ms_office.h\
tmland last, but not least, an interesting and informative debate on ICT and
education ---The Educational Technology Debate (ETD) seeks to promote a
substantive discussion of how low-cost information and communication technology
(ICT) device initiatives for educational systems in developing countries are
relevant to the very groups they purport to serve – the students, teachers,
and their surrounding
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Subject: Re: Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday: Govt
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IMO, once the right people are involved, Linux would be easier to
administer. Then again, if this project was properly thought out the only
things the laptop would need to run would be an office suite and a web
browser...
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Ryan Shripat <ryan.shripat@...> wrote:
> The other question we have ask is, does the public service, as it is right
> now, have the trained resources to maintain and administer Linux machines?
> If they do have an MS Enterprise license, we can assume they have more than
> a few IT personnel with experience in Windows administration.
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris <
> jam@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hmmm - Dell ships w/ Linux. HP, all manufacturers, really.
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@... <deobisnath%40yahoo.com>>
> > Sender: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:13:13
> > To: <ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>>; <
> > ttlug@yahoogroups.com <ttlug%40yahoogroups.com>>; <computing@...
> <computing%40opus.co.tt>>
> >
> > Reply-To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday :
> > Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
> >
> >
> > I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher
> > cost is just one reason ....
> > I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay,
> > but not with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a
> > Laptop for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools),
> XO
> > 1.5 or something similar.
> > What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
> > Regards, Deosaran
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>>
> > Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender
> deadline
> > July 15
> > To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
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> > can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
> > It
> > will be love when they request everything be fixed.
> >
> > :))
> >
> > kevin,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
> > Williams
> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
> > To:
> > ttcs@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
> > suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
> >
> >
> >
> > The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
> >
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> >
> > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
> > wrote:
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> > In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
> > MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
> > etc.
> >
> >
> > I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From:
> > Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re:
> > [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
> > 15
> > To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, July
> > 8, 2010, 7:56 PM
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
> > wanted.
> > Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
> > well?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
> > Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
> >
> > Newsday
> > July
> > 5th, 2010
> >
> > "On the heels of the People’s Partnership’s vow
> > in the recent General
> > Election to give a laptop to all
> > Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
> > Exam pupils, the Government
> > yesterday advertised in the press to
> > invite bids from
> > suppliers... ...
> > ...From the July 4 date of the publication of
> > this invitation to
> > tender, the company set a closing date of
> > July 15, giving potential
> > bidders about 11 days to put together
> > a proposal."
> >
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How is Ubuntu Server working in production for you?
http://xai-tec.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 16:58, Stephen Sankarsingh <stephentnt@...>wrote:
>
>
> You can exclude apps with apt/yum/up2date etc too or even specify that
> certain packages only be updated from certain alternative repos but that
> doesn't really help in preventing package hell.
>
> I've done it for a postgresql installation
>
> eg. https://public.commandprompt.com/projects/pgcore/wiki
>
> An example is kernel updates under RHEL, they are excluded by default but
> you can force them if you like.
>
> /Stepheen
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Falina Baksh
<bakshfalina@...<bakshfalina%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Thats why I like Gentoo, with USE flags u can specify particular packages
> > to
> > exclude when updating and installing packages
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, carroll cole
<carroll.cole@...<carroll.cole%40gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks will try that. I'm not auto updating, its just that twice for
> the
> > > year using apt-get upgrade has updated apps on my server and reduced
> > > their functionality, so i want to just install security updates, till
> > > its time to go from one lts to another.
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sources.list!! gg
> > > >
> > > > and Falina is right about auto updating.
> > > >
> > > > /Stephen
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Falina Baksh
<bakshfalina@...<bakshfalina%40gmail.com>
> > <bakshfalina%40gmail.com>
> > > > <mailto:bakshfalina%40gmail.com <bakshfalina%2540gmail.com><bakshfalina%
> 2540gmail.com><bakshfalina%
>
> > 2540gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You have to edit your sources.list and you can specify what you
> want
> > to
> > > > > update in terms of main, contributed etc. You'll probably want main
> > > only
> > > > > since it will be distribution mostly security updates, but its not
> a
> > > > good
> > > > > idea to auto-update if thats what you have planned since its always
> > > > better
> > > > > to get an idea of what packages are being updated in case something
> > > > breaks.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can read more
> > > > > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Obtaining_security_updates
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, carroll cole
> > > > <carroll.cole@... <carroll.cole%40gmail.com> <carroll.cole%
> 40gmail.com> <mailto:
> > > carroll.cole%40gmail.com <carroll.cole%2540gmail.com>>
> > >
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks, but the server version has no gui only cmd line
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trevor Christian wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the packagekit app that sends the notification I think a
> rigjt
> > > > > > > click wil reveal the options. I haven't used it on ubuntu... On
> > the
> > > > > > > cli... Not sure
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> > > > > > > Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> > > > > > > http://www.trevorchristian.com
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: carroll cole
> > > > > > > Sent: 2010-07-09 09:38:35
> > > > > > > Subject: [ttlug] security updates
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am using Ubuntu 10.04 server version. I have everything
> > > > working just
> > > > > > > fine. I want to only install security updates, or serious bug
> > > fixes,
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > do I select only those updates as opposed to the others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carroll Cole
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If you are a hardcore Python developer looking for some new project work
(or
even possibly a new CIO/CTO position, depending on how good you are), give
me a shout. A guy I know here in the Washington, DC area is looking for
very
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it
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My 2 cents. In giving laptops to the children, I am making the
assumption that there will be a syllabus. Which would lead to the
children being taught how to use the chosen os. In trinidad windows is
the major os and as a responsible government spending my tax dollars,
they will have to prepare the children for the world of work, which
means windows.
I am not against linux being taught in schools, but it should be taught
as a second os not a first, and preferably done at the level of form 5 - 6.
Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
> IMO, once the right people are involved, Linux would be easier to
> administer. Then again, if this project was properly thought out the only
> things the laptop would need to run would be an office suite and a web
> browser...
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Ryan Shripat <ryan.shripat@...> wrote:
>
>
>> The other question we have ask is, does the public service, as it is right
>> now, have the trained resources to maintain and administer Linux machines?
>> If they do have an MS Enterprise license, we can assume they have more than
>> a few IT personnel with experience in Windows administration.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris <
>> jam@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hmmm - Dell ships w/ Linux. HP, all manufacturers, really.
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@... <deobisnath%40yahoo.com>>
>>> Sender: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:13:13
>>> To: <ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>>; <
>>> ttlug@yahoogroups.com <ttlug%40yahoogroups.com>>; <computing@...
>>>
>> <computing%40opus.co.tt>>
>>
>>> Reply-To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday :
>>> Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
>>>
>>>
>>> I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher
>>> cost is just one reason ....
>>> I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay,
>>> but not with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about a
>>> Laptop for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools),
>>>
>> XO
>>
>>> 1.5 or something similar.
>>> What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
>>> Regards, Deosaran
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM>>
>>> Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender
>>>
>> deadline
>>
>>> July 15
>>> To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I
>>> can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
>>> It
>>> will be love when they request everything be fixed.
>>>
>>> :))
>>>
>>> kevin,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Roger
>>> Williams
>>> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
>>> To:
>>> ttcs@yahoogroups. com
>>> Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
>>> suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@yahoo. com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
>>> MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
>>> 15
>>> To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
>>> Date: Thursday, July
>>> 8, 2010, 7:56 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
>>> wanted.
>>> Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
>>> well?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
>>> Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Newsday
>>> July
>>> 5th, 2010
>>>
>>> "On the heels of the People's Partnership's vow
>>> in the recent General
>>> Election to give a laptop to all
>>> Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
>>> Exam pupils, the Government
>>> yesterday advertised in the press to
>>> invite bids from
>>> suppliers... ...
>>> ...From the July 4 date of the publication of
>>> this invitation to
>>> tender, the company set a closing date of
>>> July 15, giving potential
>>> bidders about 11 days to put together
>>> a proposal."
>>>
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But are we really teaching them how to use the OS or how to use the computer
and the Internet to achieve competence in a particular study area? If we
make the assumption that there *is* a syllabus then I think this makes my
case stronger.
All they need is an office suite and a web browser to access resources in
the syllabus. For instance, they shouldn't need a specific OS to learn
geography or literature. From an administrative point of view a specialized,
Linux distribution geared towards being an office suite and a web browser
should be both easier and cheaper to implement and maintain.
Children aren't stupid and you would find that some would find ways to get
these laptops to do things they weren't meant to do and we would've
inadvertently spawned a new generation of hackers. These would probably be
more interested in computing related studies later on.
Of course, if we simply want to train the next generation of Windows users
for our currently Windows dependent work-force then Windows is necessary.
/Stephen
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:44 AM, carroll cole <carroll.cole@...>wrote:
>
>
> My 2 cents. In giving laptops to the children, I am making the
> assumption that there will be a syllabus. Which would lead to the
> children being taught how to use the chosen os. In trinidad windows is
> the major os and as a responsible government spending my tax dollars,
> they will have to prepare the children for the world of work, which
> means windows.
>
> I am not against linux being taught in schools, but it should be taught
> as a second os not a first, and preferably done at the level of form 5 - 6.
>
> Stephen Sankarsingh wrote:
> > IMO, once the right people are involved, Linux would be easier to
> > administer. Then again, if this project was properly thought out the only
> > things the laptop would need to run would be an office suite and a web
> > browser...
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Ryan Shripat
<ryan.shripat@...<ryan.shripat%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The other question we have ask is, does the public service, as it is
> right
> >> now, have the trained resources to maintain and administer Linux
> machines?
> >> If they do have an MS Enterprise license, we can assume they have more
> than
> >> a few IT personnel with experience in Windows administration.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Jacqueline A. Morris <
> >> jam@... <jam%40jacquelinemorris.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hmmm - Dell ships w/ Linux. HP, all manufacturers, really.
> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@...
<deobisnath%40yahoo.com><deobisnath%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> >>> Sender: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com> <ttcs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:13:13
> >>> To: <ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com> <ttcs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>; <
> >>> ttlug@yahoogroups.com <ttlug%40yahoogroups.com> <ttlug%
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> >>> Subject: Alternative Laptop - Linux/Open Office -- RE: [ttcs] Newsday :
> >>> Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am still concerned about the WINDOWS being DICTATED as the OS. Higher
> >>> cost is just one reason ....
> >>> I have read of many laptop programs throughout the world e.g. Uruguay,
> >>> but not with WINDOWS; recently, I got a mail from the OLPC group about
> a
> >>> Laptop for Teenagers (an upgrade from the Laptop for primary schools),
> >>>
> >> XO
> >>
> >>> 1.5 or something similar.
> >>> What are the Linux laptops that can be used for this project?
> >>> Regards, Deosaran
> >>>
> >>> --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM><knagir%
> 40ROGERS.COM>>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Kevin <knagir@... <knagir%40ROGERS.COM> <knagir%
> 40ROGERS.COM>>
> >>> Subject: RE: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender
> >>>
> >> deadline
> >>
> >>> July 15
> >>> To: ttcs@yahoogroups.com <ttcs%40yahoogroups.com> <ttcs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:10 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I
> >>> can't wait, you know how customers like to play dumb.
> >>> It
> >>> will be love when they request everything be fixed.
> >>>
> >>> :))
> >>>
> >>> kevin,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:
> >>> ttcs@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ttcs@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> Roger
> >>> Williams
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:04 PM
> >>> To:
> >>> ttcs@yahoogroups. com
> >>> Subject: Re: [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop
> >>> suppliers ; tender deadline July 15
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The manufacturers are in the U.S and factories are in China.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Deosaran Bisnath <deobisnath@...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a bulletin to potential bidders, it was confirmed that ONLY
> >>> MANUFACTURERS would be allowed to bid, i.e. no resellers or agents
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think there is any local manufacturer, is there?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>> Roger Williams <rogerdottin@ gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>> [ttcs] Newsday : Govt seeks laptop suppliers ; tender deadline July
> >>> 15
> >>> To: ttcs@yahoogroups. com
> >>> Date: Thursday, July
> >>> 8, 2010, 7:56 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Apparently the even the manufacturers already knew what they
> >>> wanted.
> >>> Did you know a Netbook can run Win7 Ultimate very
> >>> well?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Dev Anand
> >>> Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail. com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Newsday
> >>> July
> >>> 5th, 2010
> >>>
> >>> "On the heels of the People's Partnership's vow
> >>> in the recent General
> >>> Election to give a laptop to all
> >>> Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA)
> >>> Exam pupils, the Government
> >>> yesterday advertised in the press to
> >>> invite bids from
> >>> suppliers... ...
> >>> ...From the July 4 date of the publication of
> >>> this invitation to
> >>> tender, the company set a closing date of
> >>> July 15, giving potential
> >>> bidders about 11 days to put together
> >>> a proposal."
> >>>
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Lots of advertisements for IT personnel in ministries these days, almost as
though some spring cleaning is being done. If they don't currently have the
resources then they can put out some more ads and give RHS/DN-leveled
individuals a ten-days.
/Stephen
p.s. While I'm here, +10 Obeahman points to Carroll for reviving a topic I
hoped would remain dead.
>
>> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Ryan Shripat
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>> >> The other question we have ask is, does the public service, as it is
>> right
>> >> now, have the trained resources to maintain and administer Linux
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You can contact the person directly, the only contact was an email sent to
me.
From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...<jason_carribon%40hotmail.com>
>
Regards,
Shivan Jaikaran
http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
On 9 July 2010 08:24, Trevor Christian <doubleOTeC@...> wrote:
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>
> What language?
> Does this person need be on site?
>
> Regards,
> -- Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
> Trevor "TeC" Christian BSc. Computing
> http://www.trevorchristian.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shivan Jaikaran
> Sent: 2010-07-09 02:30:34
> Subject: [ttlug] looking for a linux programmer.
>
> fyi, please see below.
>
> Regards,
> Shivan Jaikaran
> http://www.shivanjaikaran.com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jason carribon <jason_carribon@...<jason_carribon%40hotmail.com>
> >
> Date: 7 July 2010 10:53
> Subject:
> To: shivanj@... <shivanj%40gmail.com>
>
> I am looking for someone who is versed with linux to tackle a small
> project for me. The person must be able to edit a program I have.
>
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India <http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/india> has come up with the world's
cheapest "laptop", a
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that costs $35 (£23).
India's human resource development minister Kapil Sibal this week unveiled
the low-cost computing device that is designed for students, saying his
department had started talks with global manufacturers to start mass
production.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/23/india-unveils-cheapest-laptop
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Louise is a complete stranger. Until 10 minutes ago when I discovered she
was located within a mile of me, I didn't even know of her existence. But
equipped only with a smartphone and an increasingly popular social
networking <http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/socialnetworking> application
called Foursquare <http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/foursquare>, I have
located her to within just a few square metres, accessed her Twitter account
and conducted multiple cross-referenced Google searches using the personal
details I have already managed to accrue about her from her online presence.
More from the UK Guardian ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/jul/23/foursquare
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