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Subject: [TTLUG] Distribution with 2.4.x kernel

 

Does anyone know if any distribution has released

with a 2.4.x kernel?

 

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Yes we are taking orders.

Let me know exactly what you want

Chris

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Dear Mr. Jobity,

My name is Clive Sampson and I own and operate a computer consulting business in
Los Angeles, California. I spoke to one of your members (Wolfie at The Guardian)
who mentioned that you may be able to help me in my new project.

I have several clients who farm out computer programming projects to companies
and individuals overseas. They send the work to places like India and other
Asian countries because the rates are less there than here in the states.

I have been thinking of doing the same thing in Trinidad.

I am now doing the research to see if it is possible.

Basically, I will get the specifications of the project, use the internet to
send it to programmers in Trinidad who will then write the programs and send
them back here for integration into the systems we set up here.

I do have family in T&T, but they are hopelessly computer illiterate, so I can't
expect help from them. They may be able to help in other avenues, though.

So, if this is something you can help me with, I would appreciate a prompt
response, so we can get the ball rolling.

Thanks
Clive Sampson.

Have you contacted Mr. Sampson yet..
I would like to have some more  info.
What type of programming projects does he contract out.
Specifically I would like to find out the following..
i) website and cgi development
ii) Database devel, oracle, sysbase, ms sql, etc
iii) Application develop in C/C++, java, VB, etc

Dunstan

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----- Original Message -----
From: <richjob@...>
To: <richjob@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:06 PM
Subject: [TTLUG] Computer Consultants Needed


> Dear Mr. Jobity,
>
> My name is Clive Sampson and I own and operate a computer consulting
business in Los Angeles, California. I spoke to one of your members (Wolfie
at The Guardian) who mentioned that you may be able to help me in my new
project.
>
> I have several clients who farm out computer programming projects to
companies and individuals overseas. They send the work to places like India
and other Asian countries because the rates are less there than here in the
states.
>
> I have been thinking of doing the same thing in Trinidad.
>
> I am now doing the research to see if it is possible.
>
> Basically, I will get the specifications of the project, use the internet
to send it to programmers in Trinidad who will then write the programs and
send them back here for integration into the systems we set up here.
>
> I do have family in T&T, but they are hopelessly computer illiterate, so I
can't expect help from them. They may be able to help in other avenues,
though.
>
> So, if this is something you can help me with, I would appreciate a prompt
response, so we can get the ball rolling.
>
> Thanks
> Clive Sampson.
>
>
>
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Stallman: The GNU GPL and the American Way
by Richard Stallman.

Microsoft describes the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) as an "open
source" license, and says it is against the American Way. To understand the
GNU GPL, and recognize how it embodies the American Way, you must first be
aware that the GPL was not designed for open source.


The Open Source Movement, which was launched in 1998, aims to develop
powerful, reliable software and improved technology, by inviting the public
to collaborate in software development. Many developers in that movement use
the GNU GPL, and they are welcome to use it. But the ideas and logic of the
GPL cannot be found in the Open Source Movement. They stem from the deeper
goals and values of the Free Software Movement.


The Free Software Movement was founded in 1984, but its inspiration comes
from the ideals of 1776: freedom, community, and voluntary cooperation. This
is what leads to free enterprise, to free speech, and to free software.


As in "free enterprise" and "free speech", the "free" in "free software"
refers to freedom, not price; specifically, it means that you have the
freedom to study, change, and redistribute the software you use. These
freedoms permit citizens to help themselves and help each other, and thus
participate in a community. This contrasts with the more common proprietary
software, which keeps users helpless and divided: the inner workings are
secret, and you are prohibited from sharing the program with your neighbor.
Powerful, reliable software and improved technology are useful byproducts of
freedom, but the freedom to have a community is important in its own right.


We could not establish a community of freedom in the land of proprietary
software where each program had its lord. We had to build a new land in
cyberspace--the free software GNU operating system, which we started writing
in 1984. In 1991, when GNU was almost finished, the kernel Linux written by
Linus Torvalds filled the last gap; soon the free GNU/Linux system was
available. Today millions of users use GNU/Linux and enjoy the benefits of
freedom and community.


I designed the GNU GPL to uphold and defend the freedoms that define free
software--to use the words of 1776, it establishes them as inalienable
rights for programs released under the GPL. It ensures that you have the
freedom to study, change, and redistribute the program, by saying that
nobody is authorized to take these freedoms away from you by redistributing
the program.


For the sake of cooperation, we encourage others to modify and extend the
programs that we publish. For the sake of freedom, we set the condition that
these modified versions of our programs must respect your freedom just like
the original version. We encourage two-way cooperation by rejecting
parasites: whoever wishes to copy parts of our software into his program
must let us use parts of that program in our programs. Nobody is forced to
join our club, but those who wish to participate must offer us the same
cooperation they receive from us. That makes the system fair.


Millions of users, tens of thousands of developers, and companies as large
as IBM, Intel, and Sun, have chosen to participate on this basis. But some
companies want the advantages without the responsibilities.


>From time to time, companies have said to us, "We would make an improved
version of this program if you allow us to release it without freedom." We
say, "No thanks--your improvements might be useful if they were free, but if
we can't use them in freedom, they are no good at all." Then they appeal to
our egos, saying that our code will have "more users" inside their
proprietary programs. We respond that we value our community's freedom more
than an irrelevant form of popularity.


Microsoft surely would like to have the benefit of our code without the
responsibilities. But it has another, more specific purpose in attacking the
GNU GPL. Microsoft is known generally for imitation rather than innovation.
When Microsoft does something new, its purpose is strategic--not to improve
computing for its users, but to close off alternatives for them.


Microsoft uses an anticompetitive strategy called "embrace and extend". This
means they start with the technology others are using, add a minor wrinkle
which is secret so that nobody else can imitate it, then use that secret
wrinkle so that only Microsoft software can communicate with other Microsoft
software. In some cases, this makes it hard for you to use a non-Microsoft
program when others you work with use a Microsoft program. In other cases,
this makes it hard for you to use a non-Microsoft program for job A if you
use a Microsoft program for job B. Either way, "embrace and extend"
magnifies the effect of Microsoft's market power.


No license can stop Microsoft from practicing "embrace and extend" if they
are determined to do so at all costs. If they write their own program from
scratch, and use none of our code, the license on our code does not affect
them. But a total rewrite is costly and hard, and even Microsoft can't do it
all the time. Hence their campaign to persuade us to abandon the license
that protects our community, the license that won't let them say, "What's
yours is mine, and what's mine is mine." They want us to let them take
whatever they want, without ever giving anything back. They want us to
abandon our defenses.


But defenselessness is not the American Way. In the land of the brave and
the free, we defend our freedom with the GNU GPL.


Addendum: Microsoft says that the GPL is against "intellectual property
rights." I have no opinion on "intellectual property rights," because the
term is too broad to have a sensible opinion about. It is a catch-all,
covering copyrights, patents, trademarks, and other disparate areas of law;
areas so different, in the laws and in their effects, that any statement
about all of them at once is surely simplistic. To think intelligently about
copyrights, patents or trademarks, you must think about them separately. The
first step is declining to lump them together as "intellectual property".


My views about copyright take an hour to expound, but one general principle
applies: it cannot justify denying the public important freedoms. As Abraham
Lincoln put it, "Whenever there is a conflict between human rights and
property rights, human rights must prevail." Property rights are meant to
advance human well-being, not as an excuse to disregard it.


Copyright 2001 Richard Stallman
Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article are permitted in
any medium without royalty provide the copyright notice and this notice are
preserved.

Where did the fancy data base driven sight gone?
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If its supposed to move and it dosen't, use WD-40,
If it moves and it not supposed to, use the tape.

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head; touch; finger; mount; ramsize; gasp; yes; umount; sleep

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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:22 AM

Subject: [TTLUG] Comic Relief

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Hahahahaha !!!
  That was a good one

Later
Don.....

Good morning everyone,

Just wanted to know: Will there be a meeting this Sunday?  Richard?

There will NOT be a meeting this upcoming Sunday, March 4th, 2001.


I repeat, no meeting March 4th



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OK,thanks. Have a great weekend everyone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Jobity [mailto:richjob@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:00 PM
To: ttlug@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TTLUG] Lack of a TTLUG meeting this upcoming Sunday


There will NOT be a meeting this upcoming Sunday, March 4th, 2001.


I repeat, no meeting March 4th



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; ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dw

Dunstan,

I forwarded the message as I got it.

If you're interested, you can contact him.

On 1 Mar 2001, at 19:17, Dunstan Nesbit wrote:

> Have you contacted Mr. Sampson yet..
> I would like to have some more  info.
> What type of programming projects does he contract out.
> Specifically I would like to find out the following..
> i) website and cgi development
> ii) Database devel, oracle, sysbase, ms sql, etc
> iii) Application develop in C/C++, java, VB, etc
>
> Dunstan
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <richjob@...>
> To: <richjob@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:06 PM
> Subject: [TTLUG] Computer Consultants Needed
>
>
> > Dear Mr. Jobity,
> >
> > My name is Clive Sampson and I own and operate a computer consulting
> business in Los Angeles, California. I spoke to one of your members (Wolfie
> at The Guardian) who mentioned that you may be able to help me in my new
> project.
> >
> > I have several clients who farm out computer programming projects to
> companies and individuals overseas. They send the work to places like India
> and other Asian countries because the rates are less there than here in the
> states.
> >
> > I have been thinking of doing the same thing in Trinidad.
> >
> > I am now doing the research to see if it is possible.
> >
> > Basically, I will get the specifications of the project, use the internet
> to send it to programmers in Trinidad who will then write the programs and
> send them back here for integration into the systems we set up here.
> >
> > I do have family in T&T, but they are hopelessly computer illiterate, so I
> can't expect help from them. They may be able to help in other avenues,
> though.
> >
> > So, if this is something you can help me with, I would appreciate a prompt
> response, so we can get the ball rolling.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Clive Sampson.
> >
> >
> >
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http://ttlug.linux.co.tt
http://www.linux.co.tt/php/linux.php3

Dunstan,

I forwarded the message as I got it.

If you're interested, you can contact him.
**********************
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http://chanderspot.go.to   ICQ 5183191

In Trinidad and Tobago and want to use Linux?
http://ttlug.linux.co.tt
http://www.linux.co.tt/php/linux.php3

allain may i get directions to thnew area for lessons


thanks

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What is Mr. Sampson's email address?

Mark Ayen

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Sent: March 04, 2001 4:40 AM
Subject: [TTLUG] Digest Number 282


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> Message: 1
>    Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:36:32 -0400
>    From: richjob@...
> Subject: Re: Computer Consultants Needed
>
> Dunstan,
>
> I forwarded the message as I got it.
>
> If you're interested, you can contact him.
>
> On 1 Mar 2001, at 19:17, Dunstan Nesbit wrote:
>
> > Have you contacted Mr. Sampson yet..
> > I would like to have some more  info.
> > What type of programming projects does he contract out.
> > Specifically I would like to find out the following..
> > i) website and cgi development
> > ii) Database devel, oracle, sysbase, ms sql, etc
> > iii) Application develop in C/C++, java, VB, etc
> >
> > Dunstan
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World!
> > http://www.eboom.com/free/
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <richjob@...>
> > To: <richjob@...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:06 PM
> > Subject: [TTLUG] Computer Consultants Needed
> >
> >
> > > Dear Mr. Jobity,
> > >
> > > My name is Clive Sampson and I own and operate a computer consulting
> > business in Los Angeles, California. I spoke to one of your members
(Wolfie
> > at The Guardian) who mentioned that you may be able to help me in my new
> > project.
> > >
> > > I have several clients who farm out computer programming projects to
> > companies and individuals overseas. They send the work to places like
India
> > and other Asian countries because the rates are less there than here in
the
> > states.
> > >
> > > I have been thinking of doing the same thing in Trinidad.
> > >
> > > I am now doing the research to see if it is possible.
> > >
> > > Basically, I will get the specifications of the project, use the
internet
> > to send it to programmers in Trinidad who will then write the programs
and
> > send them back here for integration into the systems we set up here.
> > >
> > > I do have family in T&T, but they are hopelessly computer illiterate,
so I
> > can't expect help from them. They may be able to help in other avenues,
> > though.
> > >
> > > So, if this is something you can help me with, I would appreciate a
prompt
> > response, so we can get the ball rolling.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Clive Sampson.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
> **********************
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>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
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>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:19:46 -0400
>    From: richjob@...
> Subject: Re: Computer Consultants Needed
>
> Dunstan,
>
> I forwarded the message as I got it.
>
> If you're interested, you can contact him.
> **********************
> Richard Jobity, Trinidad and Tobago.
> http://chanderspot.go.to   ICQ 5183191
>
> In Trinidad and Tobago and want to use Linux?
> http://ttlug.linux.co.tt
> http://www.linux.co.tt/php/linux.php3
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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>
> Message: 3
>    Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:18:48 -0400
>    From: "Sasha" <mysti77@...>
> Subject:
>
> Alain,
> what is your email addy?
>
> Sasha
>
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I'll check when next I'm online at home.

I'll forward the address to the list for those who are interested.



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--- Vlade Malfet <darkvlade@...> wrote:
> this damn virus going around is a pain in the ass.
>


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For all interested re: Computer consultant. (Mr. Sampson)

His email address is TRINIDUDE@...


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Boy tell me about it.

Geez

Havent been this badly off in years.
grr

On Monday 05 Mar 2001 11:22 pm, you wrote:
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Thank you, and good morning. I am very pleased to have the opportunity to
be here at LinuxWorld with so many bright, creative, and innovative people
— who are driving a tremendous amount of change in the IT industry. 

I want you to know that IBM is incredibly excited about what Linux
represents and what we think we can do with the community together.
There's no doubt in our minds that Linux is certainly a disruptive technology
that has the potential to change the game in information technology —
forever. 

Now, why do I say that? And why do we think Linux is a disruptive
technology? We believe that the role of Linux can only be compared to the
Internet itself. It was not that long ago that all of us in the information
technology industry were looking for ways to make information systems
connect. But it was difficult. The major inhibitor to that connectivity was the
lack of standards for networks and software. That software was in the way. 

All of a sudden an Internet community got together — a bunch of smart,
creative people — and came up with standards. Because of these
standards, we now have ubiquitous networking connectivity throughout the
Web, throughout the world. Linux represents the next step in this e-
business evolution. Linux will do for software what the Internet did for
networks. Linux is all about application connectivity. And this is why we
say Linux is for real and Linux is ready for real business. 

Earlier this morning, I looked over at the Penguin on the LinuxWorld banner
and I saw he was wearing a blue tie. I thought, how symbolic and relevant
to the point I just made: Linux is ready for real business. 

Why do I say that? Because I spend much of my time talking and listening
to a wide variety of customers from around the world. These customers are
beyond the tire-kicking stage. Linux has clearly moved beyond the days of
experimentation. It's crossing that all important chasm from that world of
academia and scientific computing to a full fledged, powerful and
increasingly robust operating system that plays a pivotal role in the
commercial world of e-business systems. We're moving very, very rapidly
and we believe that the year 2001 will be the year that Linux grows up in
the enterprise. 

To set the stage and give this discussion on Linux some context, let me
begin with a very brief five-year walk through on the history of e-business. 

If you go back in time, the Internet was all about browsing. It was all about
content. It was all about the consumer. E-mail was the big application, and
searching for content was a big deal. But even back then, IBM said that the
Internet was more than just about browsers. It was all about ubiquitous
connectivity — and the potential to change how business is conducted,
how companies are transformed like IBM, like Wal-Mart, like Morgan
Stanley — large enterprises. 

Then came the period of mass excitement and frenzy and debate about
new economic models that were considered valuable even without earnings
and cash! This phase peaked early last year when the Net. Gen stocks
tumbled — right around the time when Jeff Bezos of Amazon.com was on
the cover of Time Magazine as "Man of the Year." By spring 2000 all the
dot-coms had become dot-toast. It became clear that for businesses to
remain sustainable long-term, investments are required. 

But that's not the point. This excitement and this understanding paved the
way for where we are today. Today, e-business is all about real business. It
is about companies transforming themselves on the Web. It leads to
statements like Jack Welch made the other day on CNBC when he said
he's driving the hell out of IT spending as he wants to expand the gap on
GE's competition. This is only the beginning. 

In this next phase of e-business, we will continue to see massive
technological shifts. There's going to be a lot more media available — voice,
video, and content. Broadband is going to continue to drive down in price
and it will eventually commoditize. But I believe more than anything else,
the major driver in the next generation e-business is going to be the growth
in wireless and pervasive devices. I'm talking about telematics in cars,
diagnostics in all sorts of devices and navigational systems. 

This is well beyond getting stock quotes, or trading, or baseball results. It's
this whole wireless explosion that is going to place completely different
requirements on the infrastructure — requirements on servers, storage,
software. Different design requirements on applications. Clearly applications
that were heavily tied to the operating systems of the past will not cut it in
this world of serious e-business. 

This world will require established standards. And this is where Linux
comes into play. Like the Internet, Linux is a standard around which the IT
world has come together and can collaborate to solve difficult problems. 

When you wrote code in the past, you were tied to the system's services
that were heavily embedded around the operating system. We all
understood that. It was necessary for a long period of time. Being
connected to the operating system made it very, very difficult to write
applications the way that people really wanted. Here I'm talking about
portability across various types of systems, hardware and software. 

With the whole Open Source community and thousands and thousands of
the best programmers in the world writing modular and elegant code —
Linux is already as near to a commonly accepted, open industry standard
as you can get. 

IBM spends $5 billion a year on research and development. We can't match
this and have an acceptable return for our shareholders. We put a billion
dollars behind Linux across R&D, sales, services and support this year.
That's nothing compared to what the community will be doing — with the
army of people — in developing this system into the future. 

Linux is critical to the next generation e-business related to common
application development. This, in essence, means you have the ability to
write applications in a way that you're no longer tied to that operating
system. You don't have to go to the vendor and get permission to innovate,
because you're not tied to the operating system. The control is now in your
hands. 

So the whole world is changing because of Linux. It's going to be standards
based. It's going to be open. And with the backing of the entire
community's innovation and creativity — it is a very, very compelling
proposition. 

Now, some proof points as to why Linux is ready for real business. 

First, it is the fastest growing operating system. Secondly, it is "the" first
operating system that wasn't developed in the United States. Linux is
accepted all over the world. It is a global phenomenon, and it enables
multiple, multiple platforms and environments. Again, why is this key?
Because that's the value proposition to a business. The value proposition is
the ability to write the application and not constantly worry about the
system's plumbing or the system's architecture. Linux — because it is so
open and modular — can run on everything from wristwatches to
supercomputers. 

Now, to some statistics and key Linux facts. 

According to IDC, Linux is he fastest growing operating system at 28
percent; Windows is at 21.4 percent. Linux will have 38 percent of the
market by the year 2004 — and will be the largest operating system in the
server environment that year. And that is one of the reasons why IBM got
behind Linux: these adoption rates were so impressive. They are a
phenomenally powerful statement. Its growth is huge. Its momentum is
building. It's like the Internet: it is moving that fast. 

So, why did IBM embrace Linux? Well there is a story here. I had the good
fortune of changing jobs. I was going from services into our server and
storage business in September 2000. At that time, I went around the world
and I met with many customers, business partners, Internet service
providers, NetGen companies, as well as the more traditional large kinds of
customers. It was clear that in all these conversations there was this
universal theme ringing through — and that was Linux. 

These companies were testing, prototyping, fooling around with Linux.
Linux was everywhere — whether I was in the United States or Germany or
China or Japan, everywhere I went around the world you could listen to
people talk about Linux. Everyone was curious. Everyone wanted to know
what was going on with Linux. 

As a result, a team of us at IBM got together — including Irving Wladawsky-
Berger, John Patrick and Paul Horn and we asked our technical community
to do a piece of work on Linux. We need to address our customers issues:
is Linux ready for mission critical? Is it scalable? Is it technically sound? Is
Linux only going to be a community niche or is it going to grow into a
completely different application environment? We needed to know the
answers to these questions before we invested money and put IBM's
reputation behind it. 

The team came back very quickly and confirmed there were no technical
issues associated with making Linux happen. They also said we could have
the entire IBM family of products enabled for Linux in 6 to 9 months.
Phenomenal statement! 

At the same time, our Boeblingen Laboratory in Germany, was quietly
working on Linux. These young, smart, brilliant people — always wanting to
work on the latest and the coolest technologies — had Linux running on the
z900, the IBM mainframe! It was incredible. In weeks, not years. Weeks.
Absolutely phenomenal. 

The other issue that we focused on was skills. It was clear that all the
young people coming out of school were being trained on Linux. This made
sense. 

So, IBM's decision to embrace Linux was based on a number of key factors
including customer input, our own technical validation, the excitement we
felt from our own development community, and the opportunity to establish
standards that would make e-business really take off. 

Since we made this decision, we've enabled all of our server platforms, our
storage platforms, our software, our middleware, everything around Linux.
More and more it's becoming the reference platform for all of IBM
development. It's not there yet, but it will be. It will be. 

Service and support has a key role to play here, too. To get customers to
put mission-critical work on a Linux platform, you need to give them
mission-critical levels of support. 

We've announced this year that we're going to invest $300 million — over
the next three years — in Linux services. We understand that if we're to
help our customers in this next phase of e-business, we need to, as a
team, as a community, offer the same levels of services and support that
customers expect when they run a mission-critical set of applications. 

Let's talk a little more about the market evolution of Linux and where we
see it going. Like most innovative technologies, Linux began in the
academic and scientific world. True with the Internet by the way, true with
most technologies in our industry. 

The difference is now we are leaping across this chasm from this scientific
and academic world into the commercial world. To prove this point, I'm
going to share with you a customer example. Deutsche Telecom the
German telecommunications company. One might conclude, conservative
by nature. Deutsche Telecom came to visit our Boeblingen Lab - and
started kicking the Linux tires. They started testing it and concluded they
could take all of their massive e-mail systems that they do as a service
provider and put them on a Linux and a large IBM z900 or a mainframe
system. Deutsche Telecom jumped over the chasm and took Linux
seriously. 

This leads me to what I'll call the four myths of Linux. Clearly, you all know
there are many myths surrounding Linux and many different points of view.
I'm going to try to refute — with facts — why we think these myths are no
longer valid. 

Here's the first: Linux can't scale. 

Maybe a year ago, maybe two years ago, we would have stood back and
said Linux can't scale, that it will take a lot of work to get it to scale.
Things
have changed. 

Let's talk about scaling it in the context of a distributed enterprise
environment. I'll give you another customer example — Lawsons, the
Japanese convenience stores. Think of 7-Eleven in the United States; this
is what Lawsons is in Japan. Lawsons is going to deploy 15,000 Linux
servers. What's going to be on these servers? They're going to have a kiosk
into their convenience stores. You can download music and video. Do e-
commerce, buy plane tickets, check reservations, that's mission critical.
Right? So this large, distributed Linux system configuration clearly works
for Lawsons. 

Let's talk about scaling and supercomputers. The NSG's National Center for
Supercomputing Applications, at the University of Illinois is doing research
on gravitational waves … ...you know, Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Now,
that's scaling. 

Here's another example: Shell Oil. If any of you are familiar with the
petroleum industry, they must find oil. They get it out of the ground, right?
That's their product that they take to market. Now, think of Shell and
seismic and reservoir modeling. They are now running a thousand node 2.5
teraflop Linux system. Now, that certainly is scalable. 

But let's listen to what our colleague at Shell had to say about why they
made this decision. Could you please run the video? 

So much for the myth that Linux can't scale! 

Let's go to myth number two: Linux is only a niche play. 

Have you heard this one before? Think about this? Web servers, Internet
service provider, telcos, Internet applications. If you measure the revenue
opportunity of our industry at over a trillion dollars, that's about 40 percent
of our industry. That's a niche? That's a niche! That's big enough for IBM to
play in! Believe me, we need big sandboxes when you get to our size. 

So, it's a niche. We'll accept it as such! 

I'll give you another example on this point. It's weather.com. One of the
most popular sites anywhere on the Internet are the weather sites. We all
have this incredible intoxication with knowing about the weather. 

Let's hear from our colleagues at weather.com and see why they chose
Linux. Could you please run the next video? 

Another myth bites the dust. 

Let's talk about myth number three. Linux is not ready for mission critical
production environments. 

Now, I'll tell a story on my colleagues. They approached me and said they
would like me to go give this speech. I said look, I'm more than willing to do
it, but we must dispel this myth that Linux isn't ready for mission-critical
environments. So you need to bring me some customer references that
everybody will recognize as probably the most pragmatic and conservative
in the world. 

I was referring to financial institutions. Some of our friends down the street
here in Wall Street. Pretty pragmatic and conservative companies. Well,
how about Morgan Stanley? They are working to take their financial
systems that are on UNIX server farms today and getting them ready to put
into production on a Linux scalable mainframe. So ... ...financial institutions
buying into Linux? Pretty straightforward. I think this example addresses
this concern. 

Deutsche Telecom I've already talked about. Dresner Bank in Germany, by
the way, is also using Linux in production environments. 

Here's one more: Telia. Telia is Scandinavia's largest telecommunications
and Internet services provider. We recently helped Telia consolidate a
complex infrastructure of 70 Unix servers into one mission critical z900
running Linux. Again, this is mission critical. 

So I guess we just dismissed the third myth that Linux is ready for mission
critical. It is no longer a niche. And it's scalable. 

The fourth myth I have to read, because it's a quote from some people —
an individual — who have a different point of view on Linux. And I don't want
to misrepresent the quote. So I'm going to read it. "Linux is the bathtub of
code...." It gets better. "... He can throw source in there. It's all floating
around. And it's available to everyone. But I as a vendor can take anything I
want out of that bathtub and call it Linux." 

What do you think about that? Do you buy this? Come on. That's
ridiculous. Right? 

Now, I accept that we all have a different point of view, and that everyone's
entitled to their own opinions. Now, if the opinion is seeded in the fact that
you grew up in a world where only good software can be developed in a
proprietary environment and controlled, then you might say Linux is a
bathtub. Then I would argue that perhaps that's a product of your
environment. And we all understand that. We are all products of our own
environments. 

However, IBM has a different point of view. We believe that, like the Internet,
communities working together can produce wonderfully, exciting, quality
work, giving customers completely different and new technologies that they
haven't experienced in the past. 

To us, it's very simple. We think people in our industry need to make a
decision. They need to vote. Either you can say I'm for Open Source, open
standards, or I'm against standards. Either you can say I'm for giving
customers and communities a choice or I'm against giving customers and
communities a choice. Yes, it's that black and white. 

At IBM, we made our decision. We had our strategic debates. And we
made our choice. We voted for Open Source industry standards. We made
that decision. 

We are putting a significant amount of IBM's future prosperity, behind
Linux. We don't invest a billion dollars casually. I know we're large and
these are big numbers. But believe me, investments like these get a lot of
scrutiny. Lou and I don't write those checks without some engaging
meetings! 

But again, let's stand back and say why did IBM embrace Linux? We did it
because it goes back to our vision of the e-business world I discussed
earlier. We believe that the digital economy, the next stage in the e-
business evolution is going to require very complex, difficult technical
requirements to support it. This gets back to the e-business infrastructure
that we talked about with billions of devices accessing data from all different
sources. This is a very, very complex technical task. 

At IBM, even with all of our resources, we don't believe that our company
could solve these problems alone. Quite honestly, we don't believe any
company in our industry could solve it alone ... ...although clearly some
have that belief. 

We believe that the only way to solve these very complex and difficult
problems is through open industry standards and through working with
communities. 

It's the only way. We're going to have to unleash the creativity of thousands
of people around the world, whether they're in governments or universities or
in business laboratories, that's what it's going to take to solve this problem.


To get e-business where we want it to go, to take it to its next evolution ...
...To a digital economy ... ...just like the Internet ... ...standards have to
emerge. 

You are the community that can get it done. We know we have to work
together, and if we work together and we stay focused, we have a
wonderful, wonderful opportunity. We can change the landscape of this
industry and make e-business the true reality we all want it to be. 

Thank you for having me. I'm honored to be here. Enjoy your conference.



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Richard Jobity, Trinidad and Tobago.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Jobity

To: TTLUG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 12:47 AM

Subject: Re: [TTLUG] virus

I thought it used to hurt your back.

Lots of Robitussin, water, Vitamin C and REST.


--- Vlade Malfet <darkvlade@...> wrote:
> this damn virus going around is a pain in the ass.
>


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--- Vlade Malfet <darkvlade@...> wrote:
> ever since I have had the net at home, I havent been able to
> connect at anything faster than 28.8..... usually I get 24 or there
> so.....
>
>
> what could be the casue of that.....it's not the machine...I know
> that for certin. I used other machines...no go...
> what exactly is tstt screwing me with and how can I fix it?
>
> phone was installed only last year...
>


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I had a similar problem and it turns out that the PBX speed is the limit

> --- Vlade Malfet <darkvlade@...> wrote:
> > ever since I have had the net at home, I havent been able to
> > connect at anything faster than 28.8..... usually I get 24 or there
> > so.....