Hi, I have a question concerning the basic design/structure of testable Form type UIs. Suppose I have a very simple form with a single button called start....
Hi Tim, thanks for you response. I guess my problem is that I don't feel comfortable with MVP. I used Smalltalk for many years and am familiar with MVC. I...
Hi, I program in C# with VS2005 and use NUnit heavily to test my business objects. I tried to use NUnitForms to test the WinForms code but I'm not very happy ...
Hi, ... Could you not use the SendKeys class from the .NET Framework Class Library? Aidy ... This message and any attachment are confidential and may be...
... There are tools made by Rational and the like that record and playback actions on your GUI and check what is happening. These are really in the realm of...
From: "Tim Haughton" <timhaughton@...> ... Some examples: - Verify that text entered in a TextBox is propagated to underlying controller. - Verify that...
Hi, In my opinion testing if the text reaches the controller, after being entered into a textbox, is not very helpful, and it doesn't seem like a very useful...
Hi Dan, ... How do you make sure that the data entered into a form is propagated to your business domain? ... If for example the user wants to be able to...
Hi again, On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:39:05 +0100, Stefan Lieser <slieser@...> ... If I test like a user I need to see if the data is propagated into the ...
... Ditto. Coupling MVP with Dynamic Mocks is the fastest that I have been able to move. Sometimes you'll have x amount of untested code in the View (Funky ...
Hello Dan, ... Fully agreed. You make an end to end test. But often it is necessary to test at a finer granularity. Anyway. My main problem was testing the UI...
Hi, as I said before I wrote something about using MVP and testing even the view if you think that testing the presenter and model in isolation is not enough...
... You don't, or, to be less dogmatic about it, you try not to. All you care about is whether the Presenter *asked* the business layer to make this change....
Hello Tony, ... Agreed. I do it the same way. ... But I think you verify that the issued queries are correct? ... I knew the first part. Thanks for the links! ...
... Sorry for the long time before replying to this message. I was hoping to give an example straight from code, but couldn't find one that was easy to ...
I'm more familiar with Struts and testing actions and forms, then delegating biz work to the Model. The last few months however, I've been in C# and aspx. So...
Hi, If you like to have a clean and simple separation of concerns in .NET for web applications, take a look at MonoRail: www.castleproject.org which is ...
Looks very interesting. We'll give it a look. Otherwise, after some further discussion with a co-worker and some more MVP research, it seems to us that MVP is...
... NUnitAsp has been what I used before. It works well. Others recommend more web testing frameworks like Selenium or Cactus. However, the biggest project I...
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I found this ui concept stumbling the web (http://www.stumbleupon.com). Intriguing at first, but the feeling didn't last very long. See the concept in action:...
... Mice already do soft things, such as tooltips, at hover time. The distinction should be between soft inputs and inputs that commit decisions. ... The...
... There may be some fundamental truths about how the mouse is best used, and I do like having buttons to click and various popup and other options. But I...
I saw that site a few months ago and it was cool to see what they came up with. I don't think it is "bad," just a different way to get a job done. What is a UI...
... The problem with click-to-focus is that it's usually conflated with click-to-get-any-input-whatsoever (i.e. bring the entire window to the front), which...
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