... Ahem! If your GUI layer is only edit fields and a Submit button, the rule "don't test getters and setters" applies. If you think you ever might ......
... It didn't occur to me anyone would >start< with the GUI. -- Phlip http://www.greencheese.org/LucidScheming -- Because I'm the sysadmin. That's why. --...
... My GUIs built complex behaviors out of stock controls. When I encountered the "send a fake keystroke" limit, I gave up because the need had not exceeded...
... Gee, I wonder who floated that idea first around here... From: <william.wake@...> ... This is a bitchen' game. It looks like one could solve it using...
From: "Bill Tozier" ... Uh, ... Detroit? ... <Insert long screaming rant here about how easy Ruby is to install, and how crucial for the movement and good for...
This message is OT for TFUI because it refers to using VC++ >as< the test browser instead of >with< the test browser. OBT. ... I did it by importing CppUnit's...
Phlip, ... It's absence has been annoying me so I finally hunted for it. Turns out that the default setting for NextTask (since errors are in the task list) is...
From: <bcr19374@...> ... You failed because the TDD book does not cover user interfaces. They are an especially tricky library (but >just< a library)...
... I don't believe that's the case. My admittedly dim memory of the Tcl/Tk manuals shows a remote control API that's only availible under Unix type systems....
... The last time a boss gave me a 9x 'puter, I waited until the first Reproducible Developmental Mystery Crash to use it as an excuse to upgrade to an NT...
... Please name names! A horror story would also be most helpful. ... You should do that even if the GUI toolkit were itself written test-first (the ideal)....
... From: <kentbeck@...> To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:35 AM Subject: [XP] Re: static typing for dummies....
From: <schroeder@...> ... things. ... the ... Why does the window come up? There are two reasons I'm familiar with: - the tests are a retrofit (story...
... There's more ports out there than I remember! The Python version works great, except with new style classes under release 2.2 and later. I have a patch,...
... It's the second: there are some things that we haven't been able to get the toolkit to do without a window. Even these are becoming fewer: it will do some...
... a VB ... The best time to write unit tests is while you write the features. You are attempting "Big Bang Testing". You probably used the debugger to ...
Phlip, ... An alternative would be to exercise the forms directly without the COM wrapper. You could do that with JScript, or you could write a wrapper that...
... I'm shelfing all DotNet traffic here until I get around to actually using it, which should be this quarter... ... ...but isn't there a rule somewhere...
Phlip, ... I'm not sure what John is getting at here. I don't think that separating the UI from the business part of the app is an /alternative/ to testing....
Phlip, ... I'm fairly enthused about it, but then I get enthused about a lot of things. ... If you want any suggestions, send me a note... but here's one...
... The theory is you should be able to keep typing, unaware tests run in the background. I have noticed Windows >=2000 has taken care of the "spattering popup...
... I don't think there's such a rule. I'd say that they should be in the language you're most likely to write them in, the language they're easiest to write...
Hi Charlie, ... Do you know of a list that talks about testing DotNet GUIs? I'm about to start some DotNet GUI testing (in the next few hours), and I'm sure...
