Any UK based .Net developers may be interested in voting for (and indeed, attending!) a couple of my session proposals up at the next Microsoft Developer Day...
[forwarded from news:comp.software.testing ] browserUnit ... browserUnit is a C# library to automate the internet explorer and to simulate user sessions. It...
I try to TDD a logon screen with Selenium. After a successful login, the user should be redirected to another page based on his role. To do that, I add the...
TFUIers: A reputable (and opinionated) test engineer and QA consultant provided this review of as much as he could stand of /TFUI/ <netiquette mode="suspended"...
Testing GUI's first or last is hard. That is the core problem. You are trying to provide approaches to developing UI code with a test first approach. I say all...
... Thanks! And meanwhile, my day job is Test Engineer for the test suite on a big server project. No GUI. That means I'm supposed to be doing what _he_ does...
I havent read any of your chapters or anything so I probably shouldn't be commenting at all so I don't come off sounding silly myself.. But is he perhaps...
Of course, we can only improve our work to the extent that we do not blame the reader for his misunderstandings. (Which isn't to say that we never want to.) I...
... Fry's Electronics shelves /TDD/ with the testing and QA books. I told their sales associates not to, and you might guess the results. Maybe a jet-setter...
I'll add my voice to what a number of others have already said ... ... Maybe you need to stress that link more, then. i.e., that your book builds on - and...
... The problem with all the other books is they are written by expensive consultants whose high-end customers typically over-plan things. That's why _all_ of...
... The advice to keep all that material out of the way at the beginning was good advice in my opinion. However, a precis of that material, focused on what TDD...
... Oh so that's what it is... I have to say in general I agree with Ron's comments re the language. I found the draft I read of the book to be really helpful...
... I don't think anyone appreciates how much technical risk I take here. All other GUI books talk only about one precious GUI Toolkit, and they stay within...
... I think the variety of topics/toolkits you covered in the publicly available draft certainly helped me begin to understand the mind set (and made me want...
Hi, Ron, ... I respectfully disagree. I don't have the chapter in front of me, so I'm operating strictly off the quote here, but what it suggests to me is...
... Doesn't briefly imply starting to pass, then soon not passing? It seems to me that brief refers to an interval in the future, and that quick refers to an...
... It's Ron. Don't be redundant. ;-) ... http://flea.sourceforge.net/TDD_in_a_nut_shell.pdf ... One FAQ about TDD is "it's taking me too long to pass the...
Hi, Ron, ... Yes. I guess both are important, and maybe quickly is primary. To keep the flow, one wants to stay green, and that means getting quickly there....
... GUI Toolkits qualify as WELC "legacy code". Suppose your boss orders you to start using TDD, but you have a GUI project. Your first few test cases will go...
... Taking "Best Practice" terms seriously is a Best Practice. ... That's called a "golden copy" unit test. Just byte-compare the two files. Then get ready for...
... Uncompressed, unencrypted PDF isn't too bad, it's just text. If you can test PostScript, I would have thought you could test raw PDF. It's only when you...
... Are parsers for PDF available? - decompress if necessary - parse and spot-check - convert to XML - generically parse that? Note this is all test-last, not...