I just discovered this group and thought you might be interested to now that I've release WatiN 0.8 on http://watin.sourceforge.net. "WatiN (pronounced...
... I forgot the 3rd technique: - make the renderer interface pluggable. That means you have two modules - the one that decides what to print, and the one that...
GUI testers: David has asked how to start using Watir to drive a website and test it. To the David: Read a book about Ruby ASAP! To the Ruby users: Where's the...
... Note that's the inverse of the reveal() technique I suggested. How would that look in Watir code? The two techniques could reinforce each other! -- Phlip ...
... Can you do that "first"? Can you write a failing test that forces you to upgrade the code to pass the test the correct way? ... One JB Rainsberger calls...
... Note you can use ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick to do nearly all of that, from a batch file. (That's also how I polish ZeekLand, but I'm not sure what the ...
Phlip wrote: DALY, S. 1993. The Visible Differences Predictor: An algorithm for the assessment of image fidelity. In Digital Images and Human Vision, A. B....
... What if that story were too big? If you split the story into a low- and high-value part, usability must survive that split. You can't put addresses in the...
From: "Adrian Howard" ... Ruby's Webrick makes that absurdly simple. You could even go Webrick -> CGI -> your application in your language. My MiniRubyWiki...
... Tip: Pass a testing object into the thread, and let that throw a semaphore. Then block on the semaphore here. However, in general, Dialogs often block as a...
I would create a modeless window given a choice. But I don't have a choice. Perhaps you are suggesting that I use a modeless window for testing, even if the...
... That's just a specification. Just match it, and ensure the code behaves like your customers need. ... Yes. Like I said, for windows, a modal window is...
Kelly, A modeless window and a modal window are the same thing. the only difference is calling Show() or ShowDialog(). In your tests call Show() and in the...
... The next only difference, if I recall my Win32 SDK correctly, is one kind must end with EndDialog() and the other ends with something else. So then you...
... But in .NET we don't deal directly with the Win32 SDK, so we don't deal with EndDialog(). We do, however, deal with Close() and that has to be called...
Ok, I'll give that a try. Sounds easier for sure. When you do something different at test time and run time, how do you accomplish that? With injection, with...
... Then, XPath is a sledge-hammer to TDD raw HTML. (Note - sometimes you just write the HTML, and sometimes you TDD at another level. When you TDD at the HTML...
Hi everyone, Reading the TFUI list I've found only this reveal method in Java: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/564 *The*...
... If I can avoid my usual plagues and disasters for just a couple more weeks now, I will _finally_ be publishing a chapter of /TFUI/. (Woo-hoo! and...
... Another followup. The last time I did this project (I cheated and used TkCanvas, instead of our endlessly convoluted Ajax landscape), I used GraphViz for...
... To answer the OP, those are *Units. Rails is a complete application; an example of a project. The difference with *Units in general is Rails's test...
... Your tests which run a long way from the tested code are insufficiently fuzzy? ... Can you get them to fail within 5 seconds of hitting the One Test ...
If the test runs quickly, returns true results (no tail chasing from false false negatives, no misdirection through false positives), then keep it. It's...
... False negatives are okay if they are instant. You could learn from your most recent edit and capture the issue with a test closer to the source. And/or you...
<shameless plug> I just wanted to let people know that InfoQ has just released the book "Patterns of Agile Practice Adoption" and it is downloadable in ...
Please not the link above does not include a '.' It should be http://www.infoq.com/minibooks/agile-patterns (oh, and by the way it is printable also!)...
Railsers et al: Anyone developing Ajax applications needs to read my new Short Cut, at O'Reilly: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/ "Test Driven...
I know Java isn't Phlip's favorite language, but I don't think he'll mind me posting the first message of the month on this topic. There are three (at least)...
