Tony B,

I've written this before in many places.

I believe physicists are making a big mistake in taking the deBroglie
wavelength formula out of the microcosm and using it here.

You can't use Newton's laws in the microcosm and you can't take the
microcosm laws out of the microcosm and use them here.

The deBroglie wavelenth formula is a microcosm law and should only be
used therin.

Mass and acceleration only get blue shifted in the microcosm.

It actually reverses out here where higher frequencies have more mass
hence a red shift.

Fitz


Dear Fitz!

You apparently do not understand the concept of a matter wave.

A matter wave is applicable to the micro realm and the macro realm.

The micro realm is bounded in the Planck-Mass of so 16 micrograms, say a grain of sand.

So up to this natural mas limit you will have explicit atomic phenomena like the Bose Einstein Condensates behaving like bosonic systems without Pauli Exclusion ion the wave-particle duality.

Note here, that I do NOT support the Copenhagen Quantum School, but am in favour of Cramer's Transactional proposal much in league with Milo Wolff's inflow-outflow waves.

The frequencies and wavelengths can be measured as Compton parameters, as the speeds are appreciable fractions of c, ergo they are relativistic.

For larger systems exceeding the Planck-Mass the parameters are de Brogliean with your formulas momentum p=h/lambda and lambda=h/mVdB.

Here the velocities are generally very much smaller than c and the masses are generally much greater than the Planck mass.

So a 20 gram ping pong ball moving at 400 cm/second is certainly a macrosystem; yet it obeys the de Broglie matter wave formalisms.

lambda=h/mv=6.7x10^-34 Js/(0.02kg.4m/s)=8.3x10^-33  metres.

But this wavelength is just marginally bigger than the Planck-Length and unbmeasurable with technology restricted in the classical electron radius and so the electron's wavelength of interference in the Heisenbergian Uncertainty Principle and thus the action scale for the  Planck Constant h.

Furthermore mass and acceleration do not get blueshifted, the lambdas do and that as a consequence of the c-invariance which requires longer wavelengths for smaller frequencies.

So 'stretching space' as a metric, will stretch the lambdas proportional to that stretching.

Tony B.

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From: "Daniel P. Fitzpatrick Jr" <zeusrdx@...>
Reply-To: TheoryOfEverything@yahoogroups.com
To: TheoryOfEverything@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TheoryOfEverything] Re: The Speed of Gravity derived from the de Broglie matter waves
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:59:51 -0000

Tony B,

I've written this before in manny places.

I believe physicists are making a big mistake in taking the deBroglie
wavelength formula out of the microcosm and using it here.

You can't use Newton's laws in the microcosm and you can't take the
microcosm laws out of the microcosm and use them here.

The deBroglie wavelenth formula is a microcosm law and should only be
used therin.

Mass and acceleration only get blue shifted in the microcosm.

It actually reverses out here where higher frequencies have more mass
hence a red shift.

Fitz