Dear John Bolton Museum Herbarium contains many mid to late 19th century voucher specimens from v.c.17 (Surrey). They are from all over the county but some may...
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Darrel Watts
d.watts@...
Apr 3, 2001 11:17 am
Andy, All of Ireland is covered by BSBI, so you could inquire of them.They have just finished a survey of the British Isles so that should be fairly up to ...
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Andy Horton
bmlss@...
Apr 9, 2001 9:56 pm
Hello, If anybody is in desperate need to find a modern name for an Old English name or vice-versa, I might be able yo help, if the request is sent in this ...
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Jackie Jennison
jjennison@...
Apr 10, 2001 1:24 pm
thanks very much, Andy. What is the modern name for the Old English name attorlathe? Jackie ... From: "Andy Horton" <bmlss@...> To: "UK Botany"...
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Andy Horton
bmlss@...
Apr 10, 2001 7:30 pm
Message text written by INTERNET:UKBotany@yahoogroups.com ... Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:29:47 +0100 From: "Jackie Jennison" <jjennison@...> Subject:...
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Keith Hatton
kjhatton@...
Apr 11, 2001 9:51 am
The name attorlathe occurs in several mediaeval manuscripts of spell recipes , listed among other plants , I have not been able to ascertain exactly what it is...
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Keith Hatton
kjhatton@...
Apr 11, 2001 9:53 am
My guess (which is probably wildly wrong!) is that it is a form of Attar Leaf Keith ... From: Keith Hatton <kjhatton@...> To:...
Attorlathe or atterlothe is an Anglo-Saxon (old english) herb name. It appears in Old English herbals such as the Lacnunga and Bald's leechbook. 'Attor' is old...
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Ian Thirlwell
iant@...
Apr 11, 2001 5:42 pm
It struck me that being Old English or Anglo-Saxon, the name may have some German linguistic connection. In German there are two words given in my Cassell's...
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Jackie Jennison
jjennison@...
Apr 11, 2001 7:32 pm
Hallo Ian In old english our word adder was nadder, the n having disappeared over the years, Thus similar to german natter. The Anglo-Saxons were obsessed with...
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Ron Tavender
ron.tavender@...
Apr 11, 2001 7:39 pm
Hi Jackie et al For some interesting background on the "attorlathe" saga see: http://www2/hawaii.edu/~kjolly/LB3.htm and http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kjolly/LB1.htm...
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Ron Tavender
ron.tavender@...
Apr 11, 2001 8:45 pm
Third URL should have read: http://www.aol.members/CBSunny/odins_magic.html Sorry - poor typist! ron.tavender@......
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Ian Thirlwell
iant@...
Apr 11, 2001 9:59 pm
Yes Peter. A nadder became an adder. The n was shifted to the indefinite article. incidently there is another word attorcob, meaning spider, and attorcob-web...
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Andy Horton
bmlss@...
Apr 11, 2001 11:10 pm
Hello, I have a medieval (or earlier) plant name called "Hene" which I am unable to put a modern name for. Cheers Andy Horton....
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Jackie Jennison
jjennison@...
Apr 11, 2001 11:44 pm
Hello Ron found the leechbook page, but no luck with the other two, despite you corrections Jackie & Peter...
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Ron Tavender
ron.tavender@...
Apr 12, 2001 5:24 pm
Hi Jackie, Try these URLs: (click on these actual URLs in this email - the problem may have arisen if you typed them into your browser yourself, as there are ...
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Jackie Jennison
jjennison@...
Apr 12, 2001 6:20 pm
thanks Ron, found it! Jackie ... From: "Ron Tavender" <ron.tavender@...> To: <UKBotany@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:20 PM Subject:...
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Andy Horton
bmlss@...
Apr 12, 2001 8:02 pm
Message text written by INTERNET:UKBotany@yahoogroups.com ... Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:38:25 +0100 From: "Jackie Jennison" <jjennison@...> Subject:...
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Vincent Smith
vince.smith@...
Apr 12, 2001 8:58 pm
Hi, It is not known what the plant atterlothe is called today.It was one of the nine Anglo - Saxon magic herbs. The others being Mugwort (for protection), ...
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Steve Preddy
Steve.Preddy@...
Apr 12, 2001 11:01 pm
Hi all I'm away from Saturday until the beginning of May so I've placed UKBotany in the safe hands of Malcolm Storey until then. Any queries, please get in...
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Jackie Jennison
jjennison@...
Apr 13, 2001 2:19 pm
Hello There is an OE plant name 'Henep' which means hemp. Another possibility, in some OE recipes the word 'hene' might be taken to be a herb,ie 'take henne...
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Andy Horton
bmlss@...
Apr 13, 2001 3:41 pm
Message text written by INTERNET:UKBotany@yahoogroups.com ... Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:58:24 +0100 From: Vincent Smith <vince.smith@...> Subject: Re:...
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Terry Smith
t.a.smith@...
Apr 13, 2001 4:09 pm
I understand that there are similar words which started usage without the 'n' but which acquired it from the indefinite article. for instance the word 'Newt'...
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Ian Thirlwell
iant@...
Apr 16, 2001 12:50 pm
Does anyone have any information on the hybrid between Ribes nigrum and Ribes uva-crispa please? It was apparently known from the Glasgow area early last...
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Briankbyrne@...
Apr 16, 2001 2:00 pm
Hello everyone, I've been switched off for over a week so the mass of Emails on this topic was a surprise, but although remote from my current interests, it...
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Briankbyrne@...
Apr 16, 2001 2:29 pm
Hello Ian, The only reference I can find to this hybrid is in Stace, Hybridization and the Flora of the British Isles, 1975. He mentions it in the introduction...
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Malcolm
malcolm@...
Apr 16, 2001 3:58 pm
In message <7a.137826da.280c5ba3@...>, Briankbyrne@... writes ... Neither of these possible hybrids is mentioned by Stace in his New Flora of the...
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Phil Luke
Phil@...
Apr 17, 2001 11:08 am
... From: "Ian Thirlwell" <iant@...> To: <UKBotany@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: [UKBotany] blackurrant x...
