JCT: I hate talking about WWii because everyone's got their
favorite person or group to blame and often get heated when I won't
join them in condemning anyone other than a very small group of
international bankers and bought politicians.
Everyone else has mitigating circumstances for any crime at all,
from the lowliest torturer to the most exalted money-lender, I've
always sought blanket pardons for all.
I've called it Global Aspirin, Acetyl-Salicylic Acid, Amnesty for
all financial-induced crime, Security with a UNILETS timecurrency
account to enable flight and new start, and Anonymity. Change your
name if you want.
I'm actually the only international politician who has always
promised not to let anyone shoot the bankers if they set us free of
our chains of debt.
So on to the ugliness of WWii.

>Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:51:16 -0800 (PST)
>To: Jon Chance <chiefofstaffcea@...>
>Subject: [cea-usa] Turmel: Real History of WWII

Jon,

You're telling great fascinating info. Much hidden stuff is right. But
some stuff is wrong. You can't say America was attacking USSR when
Roosevelt and Stalin were connected through Hopkins, White, et al.
There is only 1 history book that mentions the true cause of WWii and
if you read it I'll bet you'll find it though the unenlightened never
could.

Gehlen, like many others, were connected to the financial
establishment.

I'm trying to say that the "story" of WWii is a total pretext.
"History is bunk."

The best book on WWii? Churchill's Deception by double Pulitzer Prize
winner Louis C. Kilzer. ISBN 0-671-76722-4

The second best or tied for first best book, Hitler's Traitor by,
again, Kilzer. ISBN 0-89141-710-9

My dad was a Jewish Pole "Twardowski." My granddad blamed Churchill,
not Hitler, for the Holocaust.

Should have settled the "phony war" while he was only evicting Jews
rather than push him to worse! Did you lose any kin in WWii? Do they
blame Hitler or Churchill?

Because I wanted answers, I have a very large WWii section of my
library.

Read those two books, keep in mind that all intelligence services are
part of the "Financial Intelligence Service" and the whole picture
changes.

Almost no bad guys except for international bankers & minions.

So it's never good calling anyone bad about anything since we don't
have the whole story. I'm still interested in the truth about Stalin
and Mao.

If they can make Ike (who caused over 1,000,000 German POWs to join
the dead under the "other losses" category, see book by Bacque) a hero
and president, what can they have done of the real heroes but to have
us revile them.

Remember the monster ruling the Sandanistas the US fought against?
Umberto something? The guy who kicked out Uncle Sam's favorite Somosa
dynasty?

History is bunk. Almost everything pre-1997. Don't bet on it. But
Kilzer's different.

See if you can find in the book the real reason for WWii
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>Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:05:35 -0000
>From: "chiefofstaffcea" <chiefofstaffcea@...>
>Subject: Re: Turmel: Real History of WWII

John Turmel,
The NAZI-CIA-WWII material was written by Jared Israel at
http://tenc.net , not by me.

I've studied enough about WWII, including personal interviews with
veterans and Albert Speer's INSIDE THE THIRD REICH, to understand its
motives were the same as most other wars: for the profit of
banksters, industrialists and oilmen.

But if I want to know more about the awful historical truth, I'll
read Lous C. Kilzer as you suggest.

Yes, I have family - including my father who was a CO and medic in
Okinawa - who suffered greatly from WWII. He wrote some unpublished
material about the NAZI-esque American terrorism against Japanese
civilians.

Many WWII vets, like all war vets, suffer from the deep emotional
trauma caused by these "profitable" wars.

So what must we do? Make war and other forms of destruction and
inefficiency unprofitable.
Buckminster Fuller invested much of his life to prove this obvious
truth:
http://bfi.org/operating_manual.htm
http://bfi.org/grunch_of_giants.htm
More than ever, it's time to take this very seriously.
Best Regards, Jon Chance

JCT: So what must we do? Make it un... No. Don't try to make a
negative. Don't make an un...something. Make a positive. Make Peace.
Only with prosperous trading via the United Nations Interest-free
Local Employment-Trading System recommended by Section C6 to
Governments of the Millennium Declaration can peace be achieved.
Financial peace leads to real peace, not the other way around. We must
upgrade the banking system's computers to LETS internationally
whether via the UN or just ourselves using the Internet until they
wise up. Go read my bank poem again. I don't stress it enough. It's
all there! http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombank.htm
The past is bunk.
LETS is now.
UNILETS is financial freedom.
Talk is cheap.
Build your own financial lifeboat or run for office offering to
build one for your constituents. Then use the LETS to register the
hours of your volunteers in Hours they can then spend in LETS systems
around the world.
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/urlsnat.htm
Forget the past.

Remember my Bill Gates Poem:
The Christians and the Muslims and the Nazis and the Jews,
Are in agreement L.E.T.S. conforms to everybody's views.

JCT: Here it is all since it's just over 2 years ago!
80 millions extra souls flowed under the bridge since then.

"Richest Pauper's Prayer To The Richest Man"
For a Microsoft Email L.E.T.S. Timedollar checking account by Y2K
October 15 1999. To askbill@...: World's Richest Man
From john c. turmel@...: World's Richest Pauper

Gates Poem audio <http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/praybill.ram>

Hello, Bill Gates, "World's Richest Man," a Guinness claim to fame.
I'm John Turmel, "World's Richest Pauper" politics my game.[1]
"The Engineer," "The Gambler" 48 elections clear,[2]
As "Abolitionist," L.E.T.S. "Banking Systems Engineer."[3] [4]
"Blackjack King;" "Casino Czar;" "Robin Hood;" "Millionaire;"[5][6]
"Guerrilla Lawyer;" best "Bank Fighter Extraordinaire."[7]
"The Great Canadian Character Anthology says best,[8]
The motive for my Pauper's twenty-year persistent quest.
JCT: Now 53 elections clear.

As Dr. Walter Schneider, "Math of Gambling" Prof. can swear:
"He went from apolitical to running everywhere;
One day his interest in interest existed not.
Next day, its abolition was his motivating thought."
The Pauper's seen some high-school buddies choose to quit the game,
You too, "The Man," have buddies I would bet checked out the same.
No loanshark, "Richest Man," earned gains were making tools I use.
You should concur with Richest Pauper's engineering views.[9]

In Nehemiah 5, he says: "You must do as we do.
So "Stop exacting interest!" It is the Big Taboo."
St. Thomas 95 is verse where Jesus said it best:
"If you have money, do not lend it out at interest."
Another prophet great, Mohammed known in Muslim lands,
Decreed that it was "sinful if one interest demands."[10]
No "Mort-Gage" interest and they'd have shouldered life with ease,
But their "Death-Gamble" poverty was fatal, their disease.[11]

Ralph Nader's found the banks today "unsafe at any speed,"
And has endorsed Timedollar L.E.T.S. banks "safe for every need."[12]
I penned some verses on how L.E.T.S. could end Queen's poverty,[13]
But palace staff were little help. No high tech whiz had she.
Yet L.E.T.S. in British Parliament hears M.P.s voicing "Yes."[14]
"No tax for trading time with neighbors." U.S. I.R.S.[15]
Australia says "lifeboat" L.E.T.S. cushions community.[16][17]
Great Britain's politicians hail L.E.T.S. "anti-poverty."[18][19]

I've marched with Jubilee 2000, though they are ill-aimed,[20]
Forgiving poorest's debt is alms, no panacea claimed.
But White House, I.M.F., World Bank saw Pauper's placard best,
That "Banks Starve Third-World Babies," so "Abolish Interest."[21]
With interest switched off in banker's debt machinery,
Those former "chains" of debt become mere "straps" borne easily.
So Pope, reformers, Jubilee 2000's date is near,
Yet Ecuador's "not poor enough" to qualify this year.[22]

"Debt Cancellation," "Tobin Tax," they're splashing in the pool,
The problem's in the money pumphouse. "Interest" the tool.
The vast solution takes all errant money-pumps in hand,
It's not a half-vast splashing in the money pool that's planned.
Relief could reach the whole wide world to ancient strife placate.
Imagine Earth as Eden with no feedback causing hate.
The Christians and the Muslims and the Nazis and the Jews,
Are in agreement L.E.T.S. conforms to everybody's views.

The Richest Man must also tire of a game gone mad,
But you have power to switch off the feedback that is bad.
An Online L.E.T.S. by Microsoft to shop with "Hours" we trade,
With global lifelines reaching all and money local made.
We'll gladly pay our service charges, cash or Green amounts,
If you'll be veins and arteries to link our L.E.T.S. accounts.
Millennium! L.E.T.S. Jubilee! Give "World-Class Gift!" you can,
If you grant Richest Pauper's Prayer To The Richest Man.

In Matthew chapter 6 verse 9, Christ taught us how to pray:
So every day till Year Two Thousand, here is what I'll say:
"Our Father, who in Heaven art, hallowed be thy name,
Thy Kingdom come when L.E.T.S. be done on Earth as Heaven, the same.
Give us now our daily bread, forgive us all our debts,
As we forgive our debtors all their debts with this new L.E.T.S.
And to temptation, lead us not. No debt which suffocates.
L.E.T.S. Jubilee 2000 from our Santa Billy Gates.
Amen with The Engineers

[1] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/ariz97.htm
Arizona Republic" "World's Richest Pauper" 1997-07-19
"Winner at the table can't seem to prevail on election night"
[2] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/w93jjm.htm
Criminal Code Amendment: R. v. Turmel (1996), 109 C.C.C. (3d) 162 (Ont.
C.A.)
[3] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/abprogs.htm
Abolitionist Party of Canada Programs.
[4] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/urlsnat.htm
Surf 150 L.E.T.S. websites in over 40 nations
[5] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/prsgame.htm
Turmel Gambling Press Archives
[6] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/prspol83.htm
Turmel Law Politics Archives 1983-01-26
[7] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/topaz.htm
Record "Robin Hood" Raid on Casino Turmel Topaz
[8] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/anthology.htm
Anthology of Great Canadian Characters, Hubert Bauch 1984
"A winner at the table. A loser at the polls."
[9] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm
Banking Systems Engineering Mathematics Analysis
[10] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombible.htm
Turmel Poem on Bible references to money and interest +500 verses
[11] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombank.htm
Turmel Poem of banking system engineering +500 verses
[12] http://www.cfg.com/timedollar/Welcome.html
Timedollars United States, Edgar Cahn
[13] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pomlizas.htm
Poem to Her Majesty explaining how L.E.T.S. could save.
[14] http://www.regeneration.detr.gov.uk/cbri/annexa.htm
U.K. Government endorsement of L.E.T.S. 1997
[15] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/usirs.htm
U.S. I.R.S. tax free status of Timedollars
[16] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/np5.htm
Australia: The Bulletin: Bartered Bride 1990-01-09
[17] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/endeahm.htm
Australia Parliament debates L.E.T.S. Amendment 1995
[18] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/stock96.htm
U.K. Stockport: starts L.E.T.S. "ANTI-POVERTY" strategy 1996
[19] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/enukgvt2.htm
U.K. Government considering Australia L.E.T.S. legislation 1999
[20] http://www.lights.com/jubilee/
Jubilee 2000 Cancel-the-debts-of-the-poorest web site
[21] http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/prspol82.htm
Toronto Star: IMF World Bank meeting: "Immmorality of
interest led man to police station" 1982
[22] http://www.50years.org
Hosts of recent Washington Anti-I.M.F.-World Bank Protest 1999.

If you agree we need Email L.E.T.S. for our planet to survive, also
write to Bill Gates at askbill@... and send him your prayer
explaining why you think Email L.E.T.S. could help and yours.
Send a comment to John Turmel turmel@...
Home http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel

JCT: I've always said that prosperous trade with a sound money
system was all that was needed to cause peace to break out. It's on
the political agenda at the UN and we have to bring the world's
attention to the better UNILETS banking blueprint in the Millennium
Declaration.


--
John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to
Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613.632.2334