JCT: After having my motion to quash my marijuana possession
charge dismissed was a bummer. Good appeal coming up though.
But I looked back at my mail and found an encouraging note
that I never responded to. I do get friendly mail but
Rob posted it to USENET so I'll comment:

>From: Rob (robandstef2000@...)
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: Moles in the Medpot Movement?
>Newsgroups: alt.support.mult-sclerosis, york.general, york.announce
>Date: 2002-10-16 22:03:48 PST

R: John, I dont know if you read replys,

JCT: I try but unless they include the alt.fan.john-turmel
Usenet newsgroup, I sometimes miss a response.

R: but what you are doing is a good thing. And you are
certainly right in believing that you have moles within your
organisation. Its financially beneficial for it to be done,
so it is done.

JCT: That's my understanding too. Why wouldn't the guys with
all the money have moles everywhere. I would if I was them.
But it's a scary thought for most people to contemplate
because it demands resistance and most people would rather
fold.

R: Money and control. Thats what you are fighting, and being
somewhat paranoid about the matter isnt illogical. You
certainly have powerfull commercial interests whose goals
are diametrically opossed to yours. They have BILLIONS and
countless employee's and you are one man.

JCT: But I'm tinkering not with them but with their control
system, the LAW. How many people does it take to convince a
judge with the power to make things just to do it? Sure,
billions would help, heck, even hundreds. But the millions
amongst whom they've sown discord are lost to the war so if
one person is going to take on the fight, it may as well be
a fight that one person can win. That's why you don't see
working on molotov cocktails or tearing down fences at
demonstrations, but running for political power to do
justice or trying to convince judicial power to do justice.
Something one man can win at.

R: And one man, who does something besides sitting,
thinking, and bitching can accomplish pretty much whatever
he likes.

JCT: If he's right.

R: For as long as Ive seen your presence on the web I havent
thought you could succeed in seeing the laws in canada
enforced.

JCT: I'm disappointed in the functioning of the judicial
system too and think it might still take a political
solution to stop the genocide. Imagine all those judges who
had the power and did not stop the deaths. On the record.
With a K-slab responsibility of 10 Canadian, 2000 world-
wide, dead epileptics a day who will be saved once
prohibition of cannabis is abolished.

All these judges take refuge in their vague legal semantics.
I didn't act because it was supposed to be on blue paper and
not on white, that's the reason thousands of extra
epileptics died. And they think it's going to stand up in
our new millennium world? People died because the "i"s
weren't dotted, or the "t"s weren't crossed? Or that "they
say prohibition of less than 30 grams violates Parker's
right to life but not the prohibition of 31"?

So, though I keep bashing my head against the judicial wall,
I'm not optimistic I'll ever happen to get a judge with
brains or balls. And I'm not optimistic about the political
wall. They've got their narc Marijuana Party of Canada to
make sure medpot supporters don't help me politically and
you know it's run by the Young-Emery "keep-the-law" crowd
and they're never going to let it go Abolitionist.

So you're absolutely right in your estimate that the odds of
getting prohibition abolished while the government and
courts have so many ways to delay salvation are really high
against. Odds are we'll be prohibited from smoking marijuana
when the Bush World-Wide Patriot Act takes over Canada and
we never again enjoy this brief chance (today while the law
is dead) before they make it illegal all over again.

Still, the court did fall down on the job when they handed
down a decision that would make them erase all the
convictions! Of course, you'll never hear the medpot
champions who the media select to do the talking mention
it's now legal and convictions should be erased.

The good thing is that as we watch Alan Young on TV, Paul
Burstein, Marc Emery, Alison Myrden, we realize that by
their failure to play the strongest cards when they are on
the ice, their failure to shoot at the goal with the best
shots, that failure convicts them of the charges I make.

Alison Myrden will soon be speaking for the movement:

>From: "Alison Myrden" <myalison@...>
>Sent: May 26, 2003 9:07 AM
>Subject: [CCC] CBC's The Current: Tuesday May 27, 2003
>
> Was just talking to Rosie @ CBC and he said "The Current"
> will run his piece on Growers tomorrow morning.
> Over the next week or so CBC Radio's lineup "The House",
> "The Current", CBC Daily and Evening News and MANY others
> will run pieces from Growers to Medical Users and
> everything in between. WE will also be part of that.

JCT: Will she announce that the possession law is dead in
Canada or not? Judge the tree by the fruit. Every time they
talk about trying to beat the law, it reinforces the
implication that it is still alive, that it is not dead.
That's the evidence of sabotage. There's the evidence of
treason to the movement.

> Also, I was asked to CBC Studios (for Tuesday 1pm -3pmish)
> to speak about the New Decrim Law that will come down from
> Parliament. We are to go LIVE either in the CBC Studio
> with Nancy Wilson in Toronto, or via Satellite with
> Kathleen to Vancouver.

JCT: Nancy Wilson and Alison Myrden. There are two leading
contenders for the John Turmel Non-Fan Club. Nancy Wilson,
while with Global TV, once shot off her mouth about me and I
shut it up when she had to pay me $6000 in a slander suit.
In the mid 1980s when it was worth more.

It also accounts for the nasty reception I received when I
did my CBC interview a few elections ago and her buddy, a
lady host, asked if after my Guinness Record for losses
meant I had a tattoo somewhere that said "Loser." I didn't
know Nancy Wilson was the absent cohost and only found out
later to realize that it was a "Wilson" barb or I'd have
riposted: I beat Nancy Wilson out of Six Grand in a slander
suit for shooting off her mouth so who's the loser?

Ah well, I missed my chance then. Just got it now.

> I also have to go to TCC to pick
> up some Meds and will have a CBC Producer (toys in hand)
> come with me for this before going on Air.
> I have been asked to be a part of a Discovery Channel
> Documentary on Multiple Sclerosis in the near future.
> Those with MS please contact me...Deb you're on the
> list...;o)
> I also spoke to Bob Marshall at McLean's and they ARE
> going to do a story at some point. They are SWAMPED with
> SARS and Mad Cow at the moment, but are trying to get to
> it soon....so hang in there folks.... LOTS coming - BE
> READY !! Alison

JCT: All this air play and I bet Alison's going to steer the
country wrong. Not tell them that Lederman means the law is
dead for the merit reason just like Rogin means the law is
dead for the technical reason. Not announce the victory
which keeps the slaves docile while they reinstall the
prohibition chains. Thanks Alison, in advance, for selling
us out. And please, prove me wrong.

So back to Rob.

R: In fact, I was so sure the financial interests opposing
you, would succeed in imprisoning you, that I was just
waiting for the announcement.

JCT: And now I've given them a reason. But I've always
thought I'd be much more trouble to them fomenting righteous
revolution from behind the bars with no distractions. I'll
got wherever optimal strategy leads me.

R: I was sure they would have eliminated you by now. I was
wrong.

JCT: I started to feel safe once LETS had taken solid roots
around the world. No matter how small or big they are, they
are banks full of real money available to everyone interest-
free, not charity, at an instant's notice. During the G8 in
Koln with 5000 reporters in town making accommodations cost
over $200US per night, I paid for 4 nights with four IOUs
for a night's accommodations back home in Ottawa. That debt
is a piece of money promising an evening's accommodations in
Ottawa Canada and worth the same value to anyone in the
world. So once the LETS "good virus" had taken hold,
shooting me would only have brought attention to what I gave
my life for. Abolishing the Theft of interest from the poor
to the rich. Since I'm on the wrong side of the equation.
Though my gambling skills could have easily kept me on the
other.

Once I got invited to make the presentation on the banking
system of the new Millennium at the United Nations
Millennium Declaration, then I really started to feel safe.
If the forces that be are going to let me upgrade the
banking system software to work on a pure service charge
with the interest charge abolished, then the financial
framework is set to permit those industries threatened by
the legalisation of marijuana, the tree, not the flower,
will have no reason to fund the 150 Liberals and their ilk
to keep it illegal and I won't face life imprisonment for an
adult choice I wish to make no more.

So, fixing the financial system permits the abolition of the
prohibitions meant to bedevil the slaves. Freeing the slaves
makes the need to torment them so they're so busy worrying
about their bo-bos to worry about their chains come to an
end.

It's a nice world coming, with plenty to go around, and no
matter how bad it looks if the Bush dictatorship isn't
stopped by the Americans themselves, Lord knows Canada
can't, Big Money owns George and if they're going to let me
fix the banking system capable of switching Hell into
Heaven, they're not going to let George then turn the planet
into a nuclear wasteland.

With their control system over the debt slaves now
internetized, the people who own the world must realize that
the greatest threat to their yoke of oppression is the
Banking Systems Software Engineer. And not only am I not
shot after 24 years of war but they let me into the UN to
install the LETS design of the Debt Liberation system on the
Millennium Declaration. Sure, it could be a fluke that the
Engineer who is going to disarm them of their financial
power got a chance to declare his new blueprint on the soon-
to-be world's Guinness Record Most Important Document, one
up on the rights of the Magna Carta, and the NGOs got the
chance to endorse it, even if they still haven't yet set up
a working LETS among them. Yet. Just was reminded that that
was my ultimate goal at the UN, to have the NGOs run UNILETS
until the UN took over. Never got that far.

So I never thought that taking on the medpot liberation was
that much of a threat once I'd gotten past getting the debt
liberation on the UN agenda.

R: Thank heavens. Kudos big guy, and keep up the good fight.

JCT: Much appreciated, including for the danger I did feel
in earlier years. I'd read about monetary reformers getting
shot, some "accidented," others maybe "suicided." Lincoln
set up a national LETS interest-free Greenback dollar system
but was shot with interest soon creeping back into American
accounting. Kennedy too was going to pump new interest-free
Silverdollar notes into circulation and was shot. First
thing Johnson killed when he was president. Then he started
the Viet Nam war to increase the national debt.

But speaking of rats and moles in politics, I think the
greatest rats in the monetary reform movement were Ernest
Manning and his son Preston Manning. Having been taught by
Bible Bill Aberhart how a provincial LETS could solve all
their province's financial woes, Aberhart died and Ernest
took over to kill all real initiatives to install interest-
free provincial currency and was rewarded with a Senate
Seat, the only Social Crediter I know who was ever so
rewarded. And it wasn't for helping the movement.

Payback time. Exposure for all those who now understand how
debt growth enslaves, how usury causes poverty. Ernest
Manning was responsible for turning the Social Credit Party
of Alberta away from their stated goal after "clean-living,
football-hero Aberhart died. The rise of Social Credit among
the poor in Alberta during the Great Depression is one of
the most inspiring movement stories I've ever read. The
reason you can't find info on it any more.

Bible Bill was one of the first radio-preachers and he
preached Bible Monetary Reform. There's tons of good
teachings on debt and economics in the Bible and I've put
much to verse at
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombible.htm
People in the direst poverty have kitchen meetings learning
how they're being enslaved with the promise of a Provincial
LETS and a $25 a month dividend from the interest they'd
save to sweep the legislature in an explosive drive to
power. One of the greatest democratic victory against all
financial odds in world history. By the Great Bible Bill
Aberhart. Now that I think of it, my hero. Then Mohammed
Ali.

But Bible Bill blew it and I'll not be soft. When he
proposed his provincial LETS to help Albertans cope with
they Great Depression, the Feds took him to the Supreme
Court on the grounds the Bank Act says that only they could
issue the chips, and the provinces couldn't issue their own
bank chips even if the Feds weren't doing it right. I've got
a link to the pictures of the judges of the Supreme Court of
Canada at that time who declared Aberhart's provincial
currency unconstitutional and forced everyone to remain in
dire poverty while at the same time, the Supreme Court of
Austria had also ruled that the community currency used by
the town of Worgl to reach full employment had to stop and
everyone go back to being unemployed again. At least, the
Austrians had a taste of a no-usury money system before
their judicial judases put their debt chains back on. In
Alberta, the Supreme Court made sure they never even got to
take their debt chains off.

In both cases, the mayor of Worgl and the premier of Alberta
failed to find the run-around of their block.
Alberta had the eminent right to go to New York to sell a
$1,000,000 bond at 10% interest in exchange cash to pay
government workers. So did Worgl.
Alberta had the right to try to sell the bond at 5% interest
if they could get it.
Alberta could try to sell a smaller $100,000 bond at 5%. Or 2% if
they could get it for cash to pay for work.
Alberta could try to sell a $10 bond at 0% to pay for work.

This is exactly what the Argentinian Provinces did in the
mid 1980s and when they printed up small denomination bonds
and paid workers directly with them in exchange for work.
And everyone could pay their taxes with them so everyone
took them. That's how money should work.

So, there was a way around the Judicial Judases who kept
Albertans and Austrians in debt slavery, and both failed to
find it. Too bad. That's life. That's history. Real history.
The history that counts. They history that's been erased.

And final point on rats to a cause, some incredible turn-
arounds have occurred in the interest-free money reform
movement, guys who should know better harming the drive
towards freedom. Casting doubts on whether interest-free
systems can perform as well as the interest-bearing one.
(that keeps breaking down). Supposed anti-bank heroes
switching their tunes off-key at the last minute. Highly-
placed moles sacrificing their careers and reputations for
no reason.

When the Government pulled Alan Young into Parker hearing to
ensure that my motion to invalidate the law would not
proceed, he sacrificed his cover. But only because was that
close to winning. His Pitt decision was force on Justice
Chapnik which explains why Young twice tried to let me take
care of handling the Pitt decision. He wanted to have our
victory set aside without my being there and when I said no,
he was then introduced by the Crown to scuttle our case.
They only blow their covers when we're close. There's no
reason to expose themselves when we're not close.

So now, some of the bigger names in the local currency
movement, Bernard Lietaer, Tom Greco, Cal Schindel, guys I
thought were abolitionists do turn-arounds and get in the
way of the message of a global solution. For these guys to
publicly oppose the UNILETS that could save the world means
there are undercurrents evoked these moles into opposing the
answer, just like they evoked Young to sabotage Parker's
hearing when they needed him.

Incredible, isn't it? Guys who have never stood up to me
once in their lives all of a sudden becoming mouthy knowing
they are contradicting The Engineer and knowing what I've
done to contradictors of the banking systems engineering in the past. I
cannot imagine what's going on that would make
them throw away their covers and reputations. Hope it's
Jerusalem LETS making peace between Semites cousins. But
whatever it is, seeing these champions self-destruct
seems like some desperate gamble to halt something I'm not
even aware of yet.

I do know that the people who want to be able to trade their
credits globally are winning the day and building software
to organize themselves no matter what the doubters say or
do. Remember, the day the consciousness of the Internet
masses twigs to the fact that they can create their own
banks online and have their banks make them loans they can
pay back with no interest, there'll be a stampede to make
the Time Standard of Money Declaration of Acceptance, put up
their shingle of goods and services offered and wanted, and
in no time, 300 million banks online, each capable of
funding a whole village or just one person. The switch to
interest-free banking is going to happen in a surge.

So maybe all these so-called monetary reformers now coming
out against global timetrading is an indication that we're
near that seeming inflection curve in the an exponential
function and we could all be operating our own credit-cards
interest-free in only months.

Again, no one has ever challenged my publicly on a world-
wide timetrading network and to have well-known people
come out against it so that I can give their brains the
beatings of their lives has to have a reason. Other newbies
to the discussions are beating them up for me. And the
development of international timetrading protocols goes on.

R: Ethics over convenience. Morals over ease. Life over
slavery. Death before fatigued capitulation. Semper fi.
keep up the good fight. Rob

JCT: I can play Semper Fideles on my accordion. Beautiful
tough song. And don't worry about keeping up the fight for
life, against genocides; same thing.
Invictus.


--
Abolitionist Slave Leader John C."The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel
for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
to Governments in the http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613-562-0669