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#158 From: "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:34 am
Subject: Re: USAPM -STILL- Refuses to Connect to GPS on Laptop
gps_greg
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It would seem that if one external device can work through a port
(both ports actually) under USAPM that there should not be such a
conflict.
Just to check, I did change the comm port for "USB-to-Serial Comm
Port" to 40 as well as a number of others.
Most of them got "Couldn't open comm port" and then "The Comm Port
doesn't seem to be valid."
The ports that don't get those error messages still do not connect and
result in hang that requires task manager to stop.
And more BS'sOD

There may be something about the Garmin GPSMap76 as the desktop with
USAPM is not a big fan of connecting through an actual serial port to
it either.

Now, enough about this.
I do have a workaround that works, it's just that I am curious.

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...> wrote:

> You didn't respond to my:
> "USAPhotoMaps can't share a comm port. I'd bet those other programs
> can (and do)." This seems like the obvious problem. TouchPads on
most laptops use a virtual serial port, for example.
> I also should have mentioned that I don't think IRQ's can be shared
by USAPhotoMaps, either. IRQ's are used by comm ports and by most
hardware components on a computer.
>
> And you also never said that you tried changing the virtual port
that your usb/serial cable used with your computer. This is the
obvious first thing to change. You could set it to anything you like
(like comm port 40, which should rule out sharing conflicts).
>
> Doug Cox

#159 From: "Lou" <bajalou@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 3:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Running USAPM from different location than .ptr and .dat files
louwellsbaja
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thanks

Lou
 
No Bad Days
 
The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
----- Original Message -----
From: Broncus
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:44 AM
Subject: [USAphotomaps] Re: Running USAPM from different location than .ptr and .dat files

This what you are looking for?

USAPhotoMaps can work with the photo/topo data on a hard drive or
partition other than the one the USAPhotoMaps folder is in, a CD or
DVD, and on a USB flash memory thing. The data MUST be in a top-level
folder named "PhotoMapsData" (CAUTION: not "USAPhotoMapsData"). This
won't work with the data in BigPhotoMapsData, however. Anyway, create
a shortcut to USAPhotoMaps if you don't already have one, and then
right-click on the shortcut icon, and select Properties. In the
Properties Target box, add a space and -D at the end (or whatever
that drive is named). This space and dash and drive letter should be
outside of any quotation marks. Don't edit the Start In box.
USAPhotoMaps will ONLY download photo/topo data from the Internet to
the USAPhotoMapsData folder under the USAPhotoMaps folder, and not to
any other drive. So you'll have to manually copy any new data to that
other drive.

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "louwellsbaja" <bajalou@...>
wrote:
>
> I moved a lot of .dat and .ptr files to another drive as the one
with
> the USAPM program was getting full. Is there a way to access these
> files with the program without moving them back to the USAPM
folder?
> They are in folders named BigPhotoMapsData and PhotoMapsData.
>
> Lou
>


#160 From: "Scott" <firedawg560@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 4:47 am
Subject: Re: USAPM Refuses to Connect to GPS on Laptop and Doesn't Like to on Desktop
firedawg560
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I also am having trouble connecting to my Garmin through my laptop.
The laptop is an IBM T43P, running XP.  The GPS is a Garmin Colorado,
gps connection.  I set the protocol to Garmin USB, and tried the
various comm ports.  It keeps telling me that the GPS doesn't appear to
be attached.  It is attached since I can see it in windows explorer.  I
have the Mapsource program up and have no problem connecting there, so
I'm pretty sure it's not the computer or the gps.
Is there any way to save the waypoint file to the computer drive in a
format that can be read by mapsource or the gps directly?  If I could
do that, or open it in Mapsource, I could then get it to the gps
outside of USAphotomaps.

#161 From: "ct_terra" <ct_terra@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:36 pm
Subject: Saving XML in DD.MM.SS
ct_terra
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Is it possible to save a XML file in Degrees.Minutes.Seconds instead
of DD.dddddd?

Also, is there a way to set the program default to display DD.MM.SS?

Thanks for any assistance.

CT

#162 From: "lofty37347" <lofty37347@...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2008 3:15 pm
Subject: Quick entry of waypoints
lofty37347
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I have about 65 waypoints that I need to enter in USA photomaps and I
was wondering if there is an easier way then using the GOTO - Lat/Lon
menu to log these.  I do not have any connection available between GPS
and PC.

#163 From: John Sperr <jsperr@...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2008 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Quick entry of waypoints
mriceyacht
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There's a free utility at GPS Visualizer that will take a text list and
convert it to gpx format.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert

John Sperr
http://www.hriyc.org
PO BOX 573
Rhinebeck NY 12572-0573



lofty37347 wrote:
>
> I have about 65 waypoints that I need to enter in USA photomaps and I
> was wondering if there is an easier way then using the GOTO - Lat/Lon
> menu to log these. I do not have any connection available between GPS
> and PC.
>

#164 From: "Matthew" <matthew1@...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2008 11:33 pm
Subject: Trouble downloading data for John Muir Wilderness
mcfarnell
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Greetings everyone,

I am unable to download the topo data for the John Muir Wilderness,
specifically around N 37 7.2349' W 118 31.9495'

Anybody have any ideas? The maps in that area show up just fine on
topozone.com, but won't download into USA PhotoMaps. Thanks for any help.

--Matthew Farnell

#165 From: "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:42 am
Subject: Re: Trouble downloading data for John Muir Wilderness
gps_greg
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I was able to download it at the 64-512m/pixel level but not the
1-32m/pixel level.
Guessing you want it at the higher resolution.
By which I mean the lower number.
Don't know why.
Sorry.
Greg

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew" <matthew1@...> wrote:
> Greetings everyone,
> I am unable to download the topo data for the John Muir Wilderness,
> specifically around N 37 7.2349' W 118 31.9495'
> Anybody have any ideas? The maps in that area show up just fine on
> topozone.com, but won't download into USA PhotoMaps. Thanks for any
help.
> --Matthew Farnell

#166 From: "Matthew" <matthew1@...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2008 5:08 am
Subject: Re: Trouble downloading data for John Muir Wilderness
mcfarnell
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Hi Greg,

Yes, I had the same experience. I do want the higher resolution. I am
able to get the areal photos just fine as well.

Thank you for checking it anyway. At least now I know it isn't just me.

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...> wrote:
>
> I was able to download it at the 64-512m/pixel level but not the
> 1-32m/pixel level.
> Guessing you want it at the higher resolution.
> By which I mean the lower number.
> Don't know why.
> Sorry.
> Greg
>
> --- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew" <matthew1@> wrote:
> > Greetings everyone,
> > I am unable to download the topo data for the John Muir Wilderness,
> > specifically around N 37 7.2349' W 118 31.9495'
> > Anybody have any ideas? The maps in that area show up just fine on
> > topozone.com, but won't download into USA PhotoMaps. Thanks for any
> help.
> > --Matthew Farnell
>

#167 From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:25 pm
Subject: Re:Trouble downloading data for John Muir Wilderness
Broncus
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"Greetings everyone,

I am unable to download the topo data for the John Muir Wilderness,
specifically around N 37 7.2349' W 118 31.9495'

Anybody have any ideas? The maps in that area show up just fine on
topozone.com, but won't download into USA PhotoMaps. Thanks for any help.

--Matthew Farnell"


Wow! Big chunk of map is missing!

Check out this link:
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=13&Z=11&X=227&Y=2568&W=3

You will see the tiles are not on the TerraServer.

Bookmark the link (at least the root), it is a good way to see whether you
received incorrect tiles or not. I have received bogus tile before and had
to use the Ctrl-Delete feature and then re-fill the screen to get good
tiles.

Here is another example (DD WGS 84: N45.54994  W070.33369):
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=19&X=123&Y=1576&W=3

This area is a popular paddle destination. Start in the NE corner of Attean
Pond, paddle west, portage to Holeb Pond, follow Moose River back to Attean
Pond. Of course the best resolution maps are not available.

The TerraServer link seems to suggest there might be intermediate tiles
between 64M/pixel and 4M/pixel (at least on the second link anyway).

Best regards,
Fred

#168 From: "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:25 am
Subject: Moving USAPhotoMaps Files Between Computers
gps_greg
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I have a desktop with about 6 GB of data in the USAPhotoMaps
folder/directory.
It contains photo tiles of a large percentage of the state of Iowa at 1
and 8 meters per pixel and quite a bit of Iowa in topos.
One another, unused hard drive I have almost 10 GB of data; all of Iowa
at 8 m and most at 1 meter.
On my laptop I have just under 3 GB of data, all of which is on one or
the other of the other machines if not both.
I would like to combine the 3 folders/directories on my desktop and then
move a copy to my laptop.

Can I just copy the contents of the laptop and extra HDD folders into
the one in use on the desktop?
Or will the way that USAPM keeps track of/indexes the tiles in a row not
work well with that?

Thanks,

Greg

#169 From: "dancytron" <dancytron@...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:57 am
Subject: Re: Moving USAPhotoMaps Files Between Computers
dancytron
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You need to use the merge program that is on the Terrafetcher webpage.

Dan

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...> wrote:
>
> I have a desktop with about 6 GB of data in the USAPhotoMaps
> folder/directory.
> It contains photo tiles of a large percentage of the state of Iowa
at 1
> and 8 meters per pixel and quite a bit of Iowa in topos.
> One another, unused hard drive I have almost 10 GB of data; all of
Iowa
> at 8 m and most at 1 meter.
> On my laptop I have just under 3 GB of data, all of which is on one
or
> the other of the other machines if not both.
> I would like to combine the 3 folders/directories on my desktop and
then
> move a copy to my laptop.
>
> Can I just copy the contents of the laptop and extra HDD folders
into
> the one in use on the desktop?
> Or will the way that USAPM keeps track of/indexes the tiles in a
row not
> work well with that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>

#170 From: "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...>
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:03 am
Subject: Re: Moving USAPhotoMaps Files Between Computers
gps_greg
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Thank you, Sir.
Had missed that on that page.
Works pretty slick once I get my command line footing back under me.
Not use much anymore.

Greg

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "dancytron" <dancytron@...> wrote:
>
> You need to use the merge program that is on the Terrafetcher webpage.
>
> Dan
>
> --- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "gps_greg" <gps_greg@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a desktop with about 6 GB of data in the USAPhotoMaps
> > folder/directory.
> > It contains photo tiles of a large percentage of the state of Iowa
> at 1
> > and 8 meters per pixel and quite a bit of Iowa in topos.
> > One another, unused hard drive I have almost 10 GB of data; all of
> Iowa
> > at 8 m and most at 1 meter.
> > On my laptop I have just under 3 GB of data, all of which is on one
> or
> > the other of the other machines if not both.
> > I would like to combine the 3 folders/directories on my desktop and
> then
> > move a copy to my laptop.
> >
> > Can I just copy the contents of the laptop and extra HDD folders
> into
> > the one in use on the desktop?
> > Or will the way that USAPM keeps track of/indexes the tiles in a
> row not
> > work well with that?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg
> >
>

#171 From: "gps_greg" <gps_greg@...>
Date: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:09 pm
Subject: Is it possible to rename Map Locations?
gps_greg
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In the process of combining directories, some of the names of map
locations I had saved seem to have gotten changed.
For instance, I had a small area of Iowa around home called "Rockford
Area" in one of the directories and all of Iowa named "Iowa" in another
directory.
Now all of Iowa and everything south is called "Rockford Area" but I
would prefer to have it be called "Iowa" or even "Zone 15".
Can that be done?
If I delete Map Location names under File>Open Map Locations, will that
effect any of the images I have downloaded at all?

Lots of questions I know, but hey, y'all are good at answering them.

Greg

#172 From: "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...>
Date: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: Trouble downloading data for John Muir Wilderness
lupitacox
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USAPhotoMaps has 1 meter aerial photos for that area, and if you display
contours (from elevation data), USGS Landmarks, and Tiger Streets -All Roads and
Paths, you'll probably have better info that a topo map would show.

Doug Cox
_________________________________
You wrote (Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:33:23 -0000):

Greetings everyone,

I am unable to download the topo data for the John Muir Wilderness,
specifically around N 37 7.2349' W 118 31.9495'

Anybody have any ideas? The maps in that area show up just fine on
topozone.com, but won't download into USA PhotoMaps. Thanks for any help.

--Matthew Farnell

_________________________________

#173 From: "Lou" <bajalou@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:26 am
Subject: elevation data
louwellsbaja
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Trying to follow instructions, I went to http://www.atdi-us.com/SDTS_DL_b.htm and all I get is "page can not be found"
 
at www.atdi-us.com I get their website but no clue as to how to get the elevation data. 
 
Thanks for the help

Lou
 
No Bad Days
 
The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?

#174 From: "lupitacox" <jdmcox@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:51 am
Subject: Re: elevation data
lupitacox
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Get the latest version/date of USAPhotoMaps.


--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Lou" <bajalou@...> wrote:
>
> Trying to follow instructions, I went to
http://www.atdi-us.com/SDTS_DL_b.htm and all I get is "page can not be
found"
>
> at www.atdi-us.com I get their website but no clue as to how to get
the elevation data.
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Lou
>
> No Bad Days
>
> The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
>

#175 From: "Lou" <bajalou@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: Re: elevation data
louwellsbaja
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Thanks
 
Did as suggested - got latest version installed OK, then tried again.
 
Followed all directions - got to the USGS server, dowloaded the 7.5 Minute Grid Cells after changing the  selection to BIL
 
Dowloade the files, copied the .bil .blw and .hdr files to the USAPhotoMaps folder.
 
Back to USAPhotoMaps and selected File - Elevation - Import Elevation data and it produced a folder in USAPhotoMap folder "Elevation" - folder is empty
 
No contour lines at 4 mpp or even 1mpp zoom.  Tried putting the three files .bil, .blw and .hdr in this folder and sill no contour lines.  Have "Contours " selected.
 
When I click "Import Elevation Data" a grid flashes over the area but still no contour lines.
 
What did I miss doing??
 
Thanks
 
Lou
 
No Bad Days
 
The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
----- Original Message -----


#176 From: "Skylar Frank" <stinkiestbink@...>
Date: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:33 pm
Subject: Re: Work with Linux?
stinkiestbink
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i got it working with wine, but cant get usaphotomaps to find the GPS.
i see it, (serial) enabled and working in linux. not sure what to do
next.


--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...> wrote:
>
>
> Sure. Use Wine or one of those conversion programs. It worked for me.
>
> Doug Cox
> _________________________________
> You wrote (Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:43:39 -0000):
>
> Is it possible to get this to work with a Linux OS? if so, how?
> Thanks.
> _________________________________
>

#177 From: "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...>
Date: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:08 am
Subject: Re: Re: elevation data
lupitacox
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Select View -Contours - with Aerial Photos selected, and Zoom at 32 meters/pixel
or less. Of course, this info is in Help -Using, so it's really cheating for me
to tell you...

Doug Cox
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You wrote (Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:31:00 -0700):

Thanks

Did as suggested - got latest version installed OK, then tried again.

Followed all directions - got to the USGS server, dowloaded the 7.5 Minute Grid
Cells after changing the  selection to BIL

Dowloade the files, copied the .bil .blw and .hdr files to the USAPhotoMaps
folder.

Back to USAPhotoMaps and selected File - Elevation - Import Elevation data and
it produced a folder in USAPhotoMap folder "Elevation" - folder is empty
No contour lines at 4 mpp or even 1mpp zoom.  Tried putting the three files
.bil, .blw and .hdr in this folder and sill no contour lines.  Have "Contours "
selected.

When I click "Import Elevation Data" a grid flashes over the area but still no
contour lines.

What did I miss doing??

Thanks
  Lou

No Bad Days

The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
   ----- Original Message -----
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#178 From: "Lou" <bajalou@...>
Date: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: Re: elevation data
louwellsbaja
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Thanks Doug
 
I later found contour lines on other areas that I had downloaded, so must have left something out on the one area I spent time trying to view- now to go back and re-check the .bil files etc.

Lou
 
No Bad Days
 
The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Cox
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [USAphotomaps] Re: elevation data


Select View -Contours - with Aerial Photos selected, and Zoom at 32 meters/pixel or less. Of course, this info is in Help -Using, so it's really cheating for me to tell you...

Doug Cox
_________________________________
You wrote (Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:31:00 -0700):

Thanks

Did as suggested - got latest version installed OK, then tried again.

Followed all directions - got to the USGS server, dowloaded the 7.5 Minute Grid Cells after changing the selection to BIL

Dowloade the files, copied the .bil .blw and .hdr files to the USAPhotoMaps folder.

Back to USAPhotoMaps and selected File - Elevation - Import Elevation data and it produced a folder in USAPhotoMap folder "Elevation" - folder is empty
No contour lines at 4 mpp or even 1mpp zoom. Tried putting the three files .bil, .blw and .hdr in this folder and sill no contour lines. Have "Contours " selected.

When I click "Import Elevation Data" a grid flashes over the area but still no contour lines.

What did I miss doing??

Thanks
Lou

No Bad Days

The trouble with doing nothing is how do I know when I'm done?
----- Original Message -----
_________________________________


#179 From: "crwoodone" <crwoodone@...>
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:59 am
Subject: Using two gps ports at same time with bluetooth
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Been using USAPM for several years and have all US 64-512 maps. 36000
files of 4-16 and 18000 files of photos...been all over the country and
many offroad miles with USAPM, particulary useful when offroad...have
discovered software which allows multiple com ports with one bluetooth
gps input, in my case, I use two ports, software costs about $12.00 for
two ports...easy to set up..about $35.00 for many more ports...get it
at http://franson.com/gpsgate/guide.asp?ref=app&v=2.6.0.305...also run
Turbo GPS (google for it)at the same time and superimpose it on the
USAPM screen, gives compass, speedometer, etc...runnng on a samsung
ultra 1 xp with 7.5 inch screen...perfect system for my jeep
travels...USAPM is the very best thanks to Doug Cox

#181 From: "egiandomenico" <egiandomenico@...>
Date: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:47 am
Subject: New Member - Introduction
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Hi my name is Ed. I am a new member of this group and thought I would
introduce myself. My call sign is KE7MWY. I have been having fun
using USAPhotoMaps APRS functionality with my Kenwood D710A. I do
qite a bit of off roading with others who also have APRS setups and
this will be the envy of them all. At first I had a bit of a problem
getting the software to beacon my GPS location instead of my home
location. It kept sending my home location (entered in the "Home
Lat/Lon" in the "Setup to Transmit Locaton" dialouge box) every time
I pushed the "Beacon Every xx" button. It took me quite a while to
realize that it was not sending my GPS location because I was not
moving from my home location (previously transmitted). Once I read
the help file more carefully and read something about beaconing every
two minutes when more than 100 meters from the last location I tried
driving around the neighboorhood and suddenly success. I did notice
that because it beacons only at fixed intervals (every two minutes)
my tracks did not follow my path very well as I navigated the city
streets. One thing I would really like to see is implentation of
SmartBeaconing invented by Tony Arnerich KD7TA and Steve Bragg
KA9MVA. Anyway hello to everyone and KUDOS TO DOUG for creating such
a very cool peice of software.

73
Ed
KE7MWY

#182 From: "Fred Hillhouse Jr" <fmhillhouse@...>
Date: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:32 pm
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
Broncus
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Hi Ed,

I had read an idea from another list. It goes like this.

1. Feed the GPS serial TX signal to the Kenwood and a TT3.
2. Set the TT3 to use the SmartBeaconing.
3. Setup the KW to manually beacon.
4. Use a TT3 PTT signal to key the KW.

You would need to construct a cable that connects the TT3 PTT signal to the
KW for manually beaconing.
You will also need to construct a cable to split the GPS signal properly.

GPS-TX ==> KW & TT#
The signal can be split between 2 receiving devices
GPS-RX <== KW
This allows the received stations to be displayed on the GPS is necessary.

That will do what you want. :)

Best regards,
Fred

#183 From: "egiandomenico" <egiandomenico@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:57 am
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
egiandomenico
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Wow Fred thank you very much. Your response is great. I appreciate
all the work you went to on this to answer my enquiry. I already have
a ton of electronics in my car and hate to add more dollars and
equipment but the solution you gave definately looks like it would
work.  I will have to seriously give this some thought. I may give
Doug some time to see if he adds SmartBeaconing to the software as I
would definately prefer it was in the software than adding more
hardware. Once again thank you Fred!

Ed


  --- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hillhouse Jr"
<fmhillhouse@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I had read an idea from another list. It goes like this.
>
> 1. Feed the GPS serial TX signal to the Kenwood and a TT3.
> 2. Set the TT3 to use the SmartBeaconing.
> 3. Setup the KW to manually beacon.
> 4. Use a TT3 PTT signal to key the KW.
>
> You would need to construct a cable that connects the TT3 PTT
signal to the
> KW for manually beaconing.
> You will also need to construct a cable to split the GPS signal
properly.
>
> GPS-TX ==> KW & TT#
> The signal can be split between 2 receiving devices
> GPS-RX <== KW
> This allows the received stations to be displayed on the GPS is
necessary.
>
> That will do what you want. :)
>
> Best regards,
> Fred
>

#184 From: "Broncus" <fmhillhouse@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:06 pm
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
Broncus
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Hi Ed,

I guess at this point, I don't see USAPM as the beacon controller but
then I haven't explored that far yet either. In my case, beasconing
is a function in the TT3, TT4 and KPC3+. Smartbeaconing is not a
function in my KPC3+: it only does 'dumbbeaconing'.

The Kenwood, in auto beacon, is making the decision to beacon. IT has
the TNC. In manual mode, it is looking for the PTT to be activated.
Can the radio run in KISS mode, if so, then maybe USAPM can initiate
the beacons. You will need to determine how USAPM and the radio
interact in KISS mode.

Best regards,
Fred



--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "egiandomenico"
<egiandomenico@...> wrote:
>
> Wow Fred thank you very much. Your response is great. I appreciate
> all the work you went to on this to answer my enquiry. I already
have
> a ton of electronics in my car and hate to add more dollars and
> equipment but the solution you gave definately looks like it would
> work.  I will have to seriously give this some thought. I may give
> Doug some time to see if he adds SmartBeaconing to the software as
I
> would definately prefer it was in the software than adding more
> hardware. Once again thank you Fred!
>
> Ed
>
>
>  --- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hillhouse Jr"
> <fmhillhouse@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > I had read an idea from another list. It goes like this.
> >
> > 1. Feed the GPS serial TX signal to the Kenwood and a TT3.
> > 2. Set the TT3 to use the SmartBeaconing.
> > 3. Setup the KW to manually beacon.
> > 4. Use a TT3 PTT signal to key the KW.
> >
> > You would need to construct a cable that connects the TT3 PTT
> signal to the
> > KW for manually beaconing.
> > You will also need to construct a cable to split the GPS signal
> properly.
> >
> > GPS-TX ==> KW & TT#
> > The signal can be split between 2 receiving devices
> > GPS-RX <== KW
> > This allows the received stations to be displayed on the GPS is
> necessary.
> >
> > That will do what you want. :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Fred
> >
>

#185 From: "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...>
Date: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:46 pm
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
lupitacox
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The Kenwood D710A can run in KISS mode. And USAPhotoMaps does a simplistic
version of KISS.

BUT I prefer to have USAPhotoMaps send commands to the TNC (which is included in
the Kenwood D710A), instead of using KISS (which bypasses the command mode of a
TNC and sends the data (almost) directly to the transceiver).

Read about how USAPhotoMaps works with APRS data in APRS -Help on its menu.

Fred, YOU need to determine how USAPM and the radio interact (it interacts
almost exactly the same way in both the Kenwood and the KPC3+).

Doug Cox
_________________________________
You wrote (Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:06:15 -0000):

Hi Ed,

I guess at this point, I don't see USAPM as the beacon controller but then I
haven't explored that far yet either. In my case, beasconing is a function in
the TT3, TT4 and KPC3+. Smartbeaconing is not a function in my KPC3+: it only
does 'dumbbeaconing'.

The Kenwood, in auto beacon, is making the decision to beacon. IT has the TNC.
In manual mode, it is looking for the PTT to be activated. Can the radio run in
KISS mode, if so, then maybe USAPM can initiate the beacons. You will need to
determine how USAPM and the radio interact in KISS mode.

Best regards,
Fred
_________________________________

#186 From: "egiandomenico" <egiandomenico@...>
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:40 am
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
egiandomenico
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I am using USAPhotoMaps with the D710A in TNC mode. In this mode
USAPhotoMaps sends a beacon command to the TNC every two minutes (if
I understand the help file correctly) when the "send GPS lat/lon" is
checked. I have also observed this behavior in using the software.

Doug is there a way to override the "interval=2 minutes" setting when
the "send GPS lat/lon" is checked by manually sending a command to
the TNC?  I tried sending a "BEACON EVERY xx" command, but that
didn't send my GPS coordinates, it sent my "BTEXT=" instead.

When the D710 is in "TNC mode" the "Packet Transmission Method =
Manual, PTT, or Auto" (menu 611 in the D710) does not apply.  This
setting only only applies when the D710 is in "APRS mode" (At least
that is my experience).

Even if I could override the becon command USAPhotoMaps sends it
would still be a "interval=x beacon", so if USAPhotoMaps had
SmartBeaconing built in that would be super.

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...> wrote:
>
>
> The Kenwood D710A can run in KISS mode. And USAPhotoMaps does a
simplistic version of KISS.
>
> BUT I prefer to have USAPhotoMaps send commands to the TNC (which
is included in the Kenwood D710A), instead of using KISS (which
bypasses the command mode of a TNC and sends the data (almost)
directly to the transceiver).
>
> Read about how USAPhotoMaps works with APRS data in APRS -Help on
its menu.
>
> Fred, YOU need to determine how USAPM and the radio interact (it
interacts almost exactly the same way in both the Kenwood and the
KPC3+).
>
> Doug Cox
> _________________________________
> You wrote (Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:06:15 -0000):
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I guess at this point, I don't see USAPM as the beacon controller
but then I haven't explored that far yet either. In my case,
beasconing is a function in the TT3, TT4 and KPC3+. Smartbeaconing is
not a function in my KPC3+: it only does 'dumbbeaconing'.
>
> The Kenwood, in auto beacon, is making the decision to beacon. IT
has the TNC. In manual mode, it is looking for the PTT to be
activated. Can the radio run in KISS mode, if so, then maybe USAPM
can initiate the beacons. You will need to determine how USAPM and
the radio interact in KISS mode.
>
> Best regards,
> Fred
> _________________________________
>

#187 From: "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...>
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:45 am
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
lupitacox
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Right now, GPS position in USAPhotoMaps is only sent to the TNC every two
minutes.

I intend to add SmartBeaconing, with all the choices of speed and timing (and
turn_min and turn_slope, whatever they mean (I'm hoping to get clarification
from the authors)) that it includes.

I'm glad to see another APRS user.

Doug Cox
_________________________________
You wrote (Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:40:31 -0000):

I am using USAPhotoMaps with the D710A in TNC mode. In this mode USAPhotoMaps
sends a beacon command to the TNC every two minutes (if I understand the help
file correctly) when the "send GPS lat/lon" is checked. I have also observed
this behavior in using the software.

Doug is there a way to override the "interval=2 minutes" setting when the "send
GPS lat/lon" is checked by manually sending a command to the TNC?  I tried
sending a "BEACON EVERY xx" command, but that didn't send my GPS coordinates, it
sent my "BTEXT=" instead.

When the D710 is in "TNC mode" the "Packet Transmission Method = Manual, PTT, or
Auto" (menu 611 in the D710) does not apply.  This setting only only applies
when the D710 is in "APRS mode" (At least that is my experience).

Even if I could override the becon command USAPhotoMaps sends it would still be
a "interval=x beacon", so if USAPhotoMaps had SmartBeaconing built in that would
be super.
_________________________________

#188 From: "egiandomenico" <egiandomenico@...>
Date: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:41 am
Subject: Re:New Member - Introduction
egiandomenico
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Excellent. Smart Beaconing will be great. There may be some occasions
where fixed interval beconing is also desireable so you may want to
leave that feature on also and perhaps add the ability to allow users
to set the value of "becon every = x"

--- In USAphotomaps@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Cox" <jdmcox@...> wrote:
>
>
> Right now, GPS position in USAPhotoMaps is only sent to the TNC
every two minutes.
>
> I intend to add SmartBeaconing, with all the choices of speed and
timing (and turn_min and turn_slope, whatever they mean (I'm hoping
to get clarification from the authors)) that it includes.
>
> I'm glad to see another APRS user.
>
> Doug Cox
> _________________________________
> You wrote (Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:40:31 -0000):
>
> I am using USAPhotoMaps with the D710A in TNC mode. In this mode
USAPhotoMaps sends a beacon command to the TNC every two minutes (if
I understand the help file correctly) when the "send GPS lat/lon" is
checked. I have also observed this behavior in using the software.
>
> Doug is there a way to override the "interval=2 minutes" setting
when the "send GPS lat/lon" is checked by manually sending a command
to the TNC?  I tried sending a "BEACON EVERY xx" command, but that
didn't send my GPS coordinates, it sent my "BTEXT=" instead.
>
> When the D710 is in "TNC mode" the "Packet Transmission Method =
Manual, PTT, or Auto" (menu 611 in the D710) does not apply.  This
setting only only applies when the D710 is in "APRS mode" (At least
that is my experience).
>
> Even if I could override the becon command USAPhotoMaps sends it
would still be a "interval=x beacon", so if USAPhotoMaps had
SmartBeaconing built in that would be super.
> _________________________________
>

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