(1) Yes, we will need to buy Windows XP or Vista. From what I've read, Vista is
a memory
hog, so I'd recommend installing XP.

(2) We do get an educational discount on a new computer from Apple. They have an
online
USF Law Store, accessible from their Store site. We also get a discount in
person at any
Apple Store - just show them your ID. Unless you have a friend working at Apple,
your
student discount will likely get you the lowest price on a new laptop.

As for Windows, we obviously cannot buy Windows from Apple. I'd bet that we get
the
best discount via the USF Bookstore. The same is true if you want to install
Parallels or
VMWare's Fusion (do a quick Google search for more info on why this
virtualization
software is so useful).

We must also have a Windows version of Microsoft Office installed in order to
run SofTest
and take the Bar Exam. On the positive side, Excel and Word for Windows are both
much
better than their OS X counterparts. I'd bet the best price for this is also via
the USF
Bookstore.

So in a perfect world, you could buy a new Mac from Apple using your student
discount.
You could then also buy XP or Vista, Office for Windows, and Parallels or Fusion
from the
USF Bookstore. Install them all, and you can use your Office for Windows while
running OS
X and be all set for the Bar Exam.

Thanks for asking .Please let me know if you have more questions,
Katz

--- In USFLaw_Apple@yahoogroups.com, Sun Kim <sun_kim@...> wrote:
>
> Hurray for being able to use Macs on the Bar!
>
> Questions:
> (1) We have to buy Windows XP or Vista? Have people used Vista? How is it?
> (2) Do we get educational discounts on the computer if we want to buy a new
mac and
the software-- Windows and Office?
>
> Thanks to Caio for giving us the info today!
> -Sun
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Michael Katz <mrkatz@...>
> To: USF Law Apple <usflaw_apple@yahoogroups.com>;
usf_law2008@yahoogroups.com; usf_law2009@yahoogroups.com;
usf_law2010@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 1:23:41 PM
> Subject: [USFLaw_Apple] Tech Updates: USF converting to gMail, CA Bar now
allows Macs
for the Bar Exam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> Just thought I'd share some great news...
>
>
> 1) USF email moving to gMail
> Since the Fall I've been a beta tester for a pilot USF gMail program. It's
been fantastic.
No real stored-email cap and easy conversion from our old email system to gMail.
I
received this email today:
>
>
> "The move to Gmail is planned for Tuesday, March 18, during spring break. We
considered this date carefully, especially concerns that a mid-semester change
of this
nature could disrupt coursework. However, concern regarding our current student
e-mail
system is so great, and enthusiasm for the Gmail alternative is so strong, that
we have
made the decision
> to move forward in March."
>
>
> After the switch, the only advice I'd offer is to go into your new gMail
settings and re-do
your forwarding information if you'd still rather get school email forwarded to
your
personal email.
>
>
> 2) CA Bar allowing Apple laptops for the July
> 2008 Bar Exam
> From page 3 of the CA Bar Exam Laptop Requirements pdf:
> "Apple Macintosh Users: Users with Apple's MAC OSX v. 10.4.4 (Tiger) or Mac
OSX v.
10.5 (Leopard) laptops can run SofTest in Windows XP or Vista installed via
Apple's
Bootcamp."
>
>
> I'm flabbergasted. Overjoyed. I checked the Bar's website early yesterday, and
they still
had the Feb. Exam information, which banned Apple laptops. Thanks to Caio for
sending
over the good news.
>
>
> What does this mean?
> If you own or buy an Intel-based Mac, you'll need to buy a Windows license and
install it
on your computer via Boot Camp. You will then be able to boot your Mac into
Windows, as
though you were using a laptop from Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, etc.If you are a 3L
or 4L and
bought your laptop before you started law school, you will still not be able to
use your
current, PPC-based Mac. The good news, however, is that you can buy any new
MacBook,
MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro, install Windows, and take the Bar on your Mac.Happy
Spring
Break,
> Katz
>
>
> ps: If you have any questions, feel free to send 'em my way.
>
>
> ======
> Michael Katz
> JD Candidate, 2008
> University of San Francisco School of Law
> Founder, USF Law's Mac User Group
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/USFLaw_ Apple/
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