Hi Larry,

I sent you a list with all the known military reels. I think value will depend
on their rarity, condition and completeness of the set.

Checking e-Bay, boxed sets seem to go for a minimum of $200 - $250.

Individual military reels seem to range from $2.50 to $10.

You need to determine what set your reels come from and if you check e-Bay that
should give you an idea for a price range.



--- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, Larry Kutz <ldkutz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I just joined your group.  I recently re-discovered several old reels
containing US Navy training pictures of WWII aircraft (both allied and axis).  I
have 57 of them but some have deteriorated a bit.  Is there a market for thes
items?
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry Kutz
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Do you recall which set you sold?  How can I find the value of what I have?


 



________________________________
From: Mojo <mojospfx@...>
To: "ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com" <ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 9:04:19 AM
Subject: [ViewMaster] Re:WWII reels

 
A few years ago someone paid me $2500 for a (nearly) complete set of
these, so don't immediately believe someone who tells you there is no
market and suggests you give him your reels for free!







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Here is one that recently sold on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140351461302

Mary Ann

Hi Everybody

There are 651 lots in all. Below if the Table of Contents.
We are still uploading, but all the lots will eventually have scans.

Sincerely
John Saddy
Jefferson Stereoptics and Saddy Stereo Consignment Auctions

www.johnsaddy.com

You are welcome to register for my V-M (Etc.) Auctions. There is no charge and
you don't have to leave a credit card # or anything.

http://www.rtam.com/saddyviewmaster-1/cgi-bin/register.cgi


ALL FORMATS

CARTOONS & DIORAMAS (All formats) 109, 152, 153, 301 to 304, 376 to 380, 388 to
395, 405, 407, 412, 414, 415, 422, 431, 436, 438, 489 to 491, 587, 628, 646
CAVES (All formats) 37, 83 to 100, 115, 119, 189, 190, 210, 309, 317, 370, 479,
621, 647 to 651
PRETTY GIRLS, Clothed, Risque, Topless, Nude Etc. (All formats) 53 to 64, 110,
111, 120, 121, 160 to 163, 265, 266, 268, 271, 315, 321, 322, 323, 423. 424, 492
to 496, 503, 519
THEME PARKS (All formats) 101, 102, 105, 107, 226 to 232, 385, 408, 576
VIEWERS (All formats) 123 to 125, 127 to 135, 138, 148, 156, 158, 165, 169, 170,
274, 278 to 280, 283 to 293, 435, 587, 593, 625 to 630, 635, 654

LESTRADE CARDS

Caves 83 to 100
End Lots 65, 66
Misc. 101 to 111
Nudes, etc. 110, 111
Theme Parks, Expos 101, 102, 105, 107
World Travel, mostly Europe 65 to 82

MEOPTA REELS

AFRICA 559 to 561
ASIA 562 to 571
EUROPE, WESTERN 497, 572 to 586
EUROPE, EASTERN 497 to 519
NORTH AMERICA 554 to 558

STEREOCARTES BRUGUIERE

Caves 115, 119
Europe 112 to 110
Nudes, Risque 120, 121

STEREORAMA

Cave 317
Dioramas 489 to 491
Egypt 487, 622, 623
Europe 316 to 320, 484 to 488
Keaton, Buster 321, 493 to 495
Risque, Topless 321, 322, 492 to 496
Movie reels 323, 492

MISC. FORMATS

Colorelief cards 308 to 315
Colorscope cards 305 to 307
CLOTHING 631 to 634
Lenticulars 596 to 598
Misc. Of Misc. 278 to 299, 595, 620, 621, 628 to 630
Radex cards 376 to 380, 587
Romo cards 284, 635 to 651
Stereobox reels 300 to 304
Stori-views 435 to 442, 593
Tru-Vue cards 165 to 170
Tru-Vue films 155 to 164
Vistascreen 274 to 277

VIEW-MASTER

Advertising reels & viewers 125, 131, 134, 135, 139 to 143, 150, 252 to 273
ANATOMY SET  652, 653
Caves 37, 370
End Lots 1 to 11, 520, 588, 593
Gold Foil reels 15, 17, 19 to 22, 27, 31 to 33, 599* (*related)
Files from Belgium Plant 548 to 553
Misc. 144 to 154, 407 to 434, 520 to 528, 547, 624 to 627
Rose Court reels 53 to 64
Single-reels 12 to 52, 324 to 365, 600 to 606
Single-reels (Australia-made) 366 to 375
Test, Proof, Etc. Reels 362, 363, 381 to 402, 422
Viewers, Storage Boxes, Gift Sets, Etc. 123 to 139, 148, 625 to 627, 654

V-M Pkt Sets

Caves 189, 190, 210, 542
Cartoon & Diorama 172, 176, 178, 243 to 251, 405, 521
European Travel 443 to 483, 589, 592, 607 to 610
Expositions 221 to 225
Factory Insider pkts 403 to 406
Groups of Misc. 171, 175, 180 to 183
Misc. 537 to 546
Spanish language 173 to 176
State sets 177, 204 to 207, 615 to 619
Theme Parks 226 to 232
TV & Movie 185, 233 to 242, 522, 523, 591, 594
U.S.A. & Canada 174, 179, 184, 186 to 214, 592, 613 to 619
Weddings, Royal 215 to 220, 403, 404, 607
World 529 to 536, 590, 611, 612

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The writer didn't say but I think you get better results when trimming optical
pieces if you use diamond tipped wheels & grinders. It is also important to keep
the wheel and or glass wet and use a slow dremel speed to prevent cracking. I
keep a small dish of water and dip the glass components I'm cutting in it every
few seconds inbetween cuts & grinds.   Obviously, dont dip the dremel motor in
water!!  Please use a grounded GFCI outlet for your dremel if you do this.

Sent to you by iPhone from Dr Kevin Pernicano, Louisville, KY , USA. (Home of
the Kentucky Derby).

Hi Stan,

I just sent you the document (to both addresses).

If you could help fill in any holes it would be much appreciated.




--- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, Stan Yucikas <slo_stan@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Is it just me or has George gone and posted something that is missing
something????
>
> Stan
> > To: ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com
> > From: drt-3d@...
> > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:06:24 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [ViewMaster] WWII reels
> >
> > > Hi, I just joined your group. I recently re-discovered several old
> > > reels containing US Navy training pictures of WWII aircraft (both
> > > allied and axis). I have 57 of them but some have deteriorated a bit.
> > > Is there a market for thes items?
> >
> > Not really...
> >
> > I will email you my address in a private email.  You can mail these
> > reels to me... and I will pay for your shipping...
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ViewMasterYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows 7: It helps you do more. Explore Windows 7.
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I was at Costco today and noticed they had a Project Runway Fashion Design
Projector Kit. It uses Viewmaster type reels to project fashion cloths that you
can trace.

The reels are made of white plastic and look to be the same configuration as
regular VM reels. I was thinking to buy one to see if the reels can be used in a
VM viewer, but the reels look slightly thicker, so not sure they would fit.

You can see it on the following sites or if you do a Google search,
http://toys.hsn.com/project-runway-fashion-design-projector-kit_p-5663536_xp.asp\
x

Gabriel

I have a small collection of "Know Your America Program" booklets and
View-Master reels. Everything is in excellent condition, and the stamps
in the booklets are unused. You can see the titles available and prices
at the following URL.

http://www.3dimensionphoto.com/vtca/KYAP_for_sale.htm

For those unfamiliar with the program, Doubleday Books, with the help of
the American Geographic Society, published about 50 educational booklets
on different geographic regions, states, cities, and industries in the
USA. The booklets are 64 pages in length and contain several sheets of
picture stamps that the student would tear out and stick to the
appropriate page as a color illustration (old fashion interactivity).
The books were published between 1957 and 1974 and sold on a
subscription basis.

To make them more appealing to educators, they also offered a premium
package that included a View-Master Junior projector and View-Master
projection reels to accompany each booklet. There are 14 Kodachrome 2D
images on the reels with captions, and the photography is excellent.
Several of the reels have views of popular vintage items of the era,
cars, ships, airplanes, peoples' clothing. There is even an image of
President Eisenhower standing in a convertible on the "Presidents" reel.

I have some books with reels, books without reels, and reels without
books (if you are patient, you can find the matching books on eBay). The
reels are a little harder to find as most people did not purchase the
premium package.

Tom Martin

Hi All

Slightly O/T I know, but just a note to say that here in the UK next week is
3D week on
Channel 4 TV. They are running a few interesting programmes, hopefully with
more to come.

Here is the link to their web page

www.channel4.com/programmes/themes/3d-week

You MIGHT be able to watch them again after transmission via the C4OD
(Channel 4 On-Demand) web service - but it might not be available in some
countries.

Commin' At Ya!

Regards

Tim
(UK)






For LOTS of Uncommon View Master info, visit
http://tinyurl.com/n469yx

For the Vistascreen Story & 3D items for sale, visit
http://tinyurl.com/n3678s

Just picked up a lot which includes chrome top camera #1049 plus a
small pile of all white Personal Stereo Reel Mounts (no printing
either side standard Reel Mount Pockets) and some interesting plain
white fold over top envelopes for these reels anyone have any idea?

When you say 'Chrome" for the top of the camera, do you mean silver?

Here's a snippet from a 2001 post by Mary Ann Sell:

>> As far as we know, all of the silver top cameras went to factory
>> employees. Where they went from there -- who knows???

Bob Aldridge

On 10/11/09 05:21, "Mark Kronquist" <mak@...> wrote:

> Just picked up a lot which includes chrome top camera #1049 plus a
> small pile of all white Personal Stereo Reel Mounts (no printing
> either side standard Reel Mount Pockets) and some interesting plain
> white fold over top envelopes for these reels anyone have any idea?
>

Yes chrome top prototype just like the one shown at Pacific Rim's
Website
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Bob Aldridge wrote:

> When you say 'Chrome" for the top of the camera, do you mean silver?
>
> Here's a snippet from a 2001 post by Mary Ann Sell:
>
>>> As far as we know, all of the silver top cameras went to factory
>>> employees. Where they went from there -- who knows???
>
> Bob Aldridge
>
> On 10/11/09 05:21, "Mark Kronquist" <mak@...> wrote:
>
>> Just picked up a lot which includes chrome top camera #1049 plus a
>> small pile of all white Personal Stereo Reel Mounts (no printing
>> either side standard Reel Mount Pockets) and some interesting plain
>> white fold over top envelopes for these reels anyone have any idea?
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ViewMasterYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I was wondering if anyone has had any recent experiences with Fresa Volante's
reels.  I ordered some about a year ago and I'm really not a fan; they're made
of low-grade bond paper, so they're prone to tearing in any viewer that is not a
Model L with a plastic advance mechanism.  Also, they bend far too easily.  I
know other people complained about this initially too and that they said they
were working on it.  I emailed them about a month ago and asked them directly if
they'd improved the issue, but I go no response.  Has anyone bought anything
from Fresa recently?  Are the reels still subpar?

Hi everyone,
One of my few posts to once again say how pleased I was with the Fresa Volante
reels I bought about 18 months ago. I wish I had bought a hundred before the
Pound nose dived against every other currency, (even the US dollar which is
pretty weak as well). I feel the reels were comparable in quality to real NOS VM
reels but were much easier to use. Inserting the film chips was so easy! The
people I have given them to have been very happy too. I did buy red Model J
viewers (Belgian) specially for them and they do have plastic insides so that
may be a factor. I have to confess the only viewer I would use with metal
insides is my Model D for the focussing etc.
Regards,
David Wright
West Yorkshire
UK

----Original Message----







I was wondering if anyone has had any recent experiences with Fresa Volante's
reels. I ordered some about a year ago and I'm really not a fan; they're made of
low-grade bond paper, so they're prone to tearing in any viewer that is not a
Model L with a plastic advance mechanism. Also, they bend far too easily. I know
other people complained about this initially too and that they said they were
working on it. I emailed them about a month ago and asked them directly if
they'd improved the issue, but I go no response. Has anyone bought anything from
Fresa recently? Are the reels still subpar?





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Yup. Sadly.  I have real reels on that auctin site now under
markkronquist
On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:47 PM, nevsky187 wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has had any recent experiences with Fresa
> Volante's reels.  I ordered some about a year ago and I'm really not
> a fan; they're made of low-grade bond paper, so they're prone to
> tearing in any viewer that is not a Model L with a plastic advance
> mechanism.  Also, they bend far too easily.  I know other people
> complained about this initially too and that they said they were
> working on it.  I emailed them about a month ago and asked them
> directly if they'd improved the issue, but I go no response.  Has
> anyone bought anything from Fresa recently?  Are the reels still
> subpar?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ViewMasterYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hello all,
I'm working hard putting together a VM collection for my daughter so she can see
some of the wonderful photos I saw and enjoyed as a kid. I've searched high and
low for the reels below; if anyone has one or more of these reels and is
interested in selling, please contact me at brett.analyst@....
Thank you,
Brett

4250-A Iran (Persia), Arabian Nights Land I
4250-B Iran (Persia), Arabian Nights Land II
4285 Afghanistan
5605 The Moros of Zamboanga
5606 Igorot Natives, Luzon Mountains
5608 Scars of World War II
C847 United Arab Emirates
1151 Wales II

I've been watching eBay for some time for reels from the Chicago Museum of
Science and Industry that feature Colleen Moore's Fairy Castle--it's a favorite
attraction of mine here in Chicago where I live.

At any rate, I think it was only available at the museum (the Ultimate Reel List
says the packet # is M2).

Anyway, I just wondered if I've been unlucky or if it's just that rare. Or maybe
I'm overlooking something in my searches!

The M2 packet is pretty unusual to come across, it's on my list too. There are a
few other Museum of Science and Industry packets. The Sawyer's version of A552
has two pictures of the Castle, the GAF version of A552 and packet M1 both have
a single picture


--- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, "isadora_dunc" <rkilbreath@...> wrote:
>
> I've been watching eBay for some time for reels from the Chicago Museum of
Science and Industry that feature Colleen Moore's Fairy Castle--it's a favorite
attraction of mine here in Chicago where I live.
>
> At any rate, I think it was only available at the museum (the Ultimate Reel
List says the packet # is M2).
>
> Anyway, I just wondered if I've been unlucky or if it's just that rare. Or
maybe I'm overlooking something in my searches!
>

That's the packet that also features the German submarine, right? If so, I
saw it recently on eBay (I'd guess about one month ago) but the price went
pretty high.


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:28 PM, tikijeff <toast@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> The M2 packet is pretty unusual to come across, it's on my list too. There
> are a few other Museum of Science and Industry packets. The Sawyer's version
> of A552 has two pictures of the Castle, the GAF version of A552 and packet
> M1 both have a single picture
>
>
> --- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, "isadora_dunc" <rkilbreath@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've been watching eBay for some time for reels from the Chicago Museum
> of Science and Industry that feature Colleen Moore's Fairy Castle--it's a
> favorite attraction of mine here in Chicago where I live.
> >
> > At any rate, I think it was only available at the museum (the Ultimate
> Reel List says the packet # is M2).
> >
> > Anyway, I just wondered if I've been unlucky or if it's just that rare.
> Or maybe I'm overlooking something in my searches!
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ViewMasterYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Just came across a View-Master movie project on IMDB that due for completion in
2012. Anyone know anything about it?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1469306/

Rob

--- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, "rob.duong" <theradiodog@...> wrote:
>
> Just came across a View-Master movie project on IMDB that due for completion
in 2012. Anyone know anything about it?
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1469306/
>
> Rob
>

Movies are my other hobby.

Don't get too excited.  A movie project goes through several phases before it
gets to the screen, and this project is in a phase called development.  The
development phase is the very first phase of moviemaking.  A film in development
is, essentially, a film which might be made, or might not.  There is no
finalized script, and in fact there may be no script at all, as yet.  There may
(or may not) be a director attached to the project, there may (or may not) be an
actor or actors attached.  This is the time when ideas are getting batted
around, different people are throwing in their two cents, a script gets written
somewhere along the way, then re-written, the re-re-written...and at any moment,
the project could be suddenly killed, and probably will be.

There are hundreds of movies in development in Hollywood right now, maybe even
thousands.  Of those, maybe one in ten might make it to the screen, maybe fewer
than that.  The rest will die in development, or even in pre-production, which
is the second phase of the process.

If you're very interested in the project and want to keep up with it, you can
keep checking with IMDb and see if the status changes.  If it gets green-lighted
(approved by a studio and given a production budget), it goes to pre-production
and its chances have improved.  If it gets to principal shooting, it's virtually
assured of going to the theaters, though it conceivably could still be shelved. 
If it gets to post-production, look for it at a theater near you within about
six months.

As it currently stands, this project is probably a minimum of 18-24 months from
your screen, maybe more (if ever), depending on many and various factors such as
location shooting and post-production work.

Or, in other words, maybe you might get to see this movie some day.

Jeff

Thanks for the info! I'll continue to keep my eye out for it.

I have the M1 packet--it has one image of the fairy castle. Sadly the images
have gone a little pink.

The M1 packet has a lot of random images from all over the museum, including the
submarine. What's neat about the M1 packet is that the images were taken before
the museum expanded and the sub and the Pioneer Zephyr train were properly
restored and put inside the museum addition. The images in the view-master reels
have those two major attractions just outside in the museum's backyard.

Thanks again,
Rebecca


--- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, "tikijeff" <toast@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> The M2 packet is pretty unusual to come across, it's on my list too. There are
a few other Museum of Science and Industry packets. The Sawyer's version of A552
has two pictures of the Castle, the GAF version of A552 and packet M1 both have
a single picture
>
>
> --- In ViewMaster@yahoogroups.com, "isadora_dunc" <rkilbreath@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been watching eBay for some time for reels from the Chicago Museum of
Science and Industry that feature Colleen Moore's Fairy Castle--it's a favorite
attraction of mine here in Chicago where I live.
> >
> > At any rate, I think it was only available at the museum (the Ultimate Reel
List says the packet # is M2).
> >
> > Anyway, I just wondered if I've been unlucky or if it's just that rare. Or
maybe I'm overlooking something in my searches!
> >
>

Hello all,
       I am happy to find this group, and am hoping that you can help me with
some questions—although I’m aware that this is a very busy time of year!
       I’m in a Master’s program studying library science and archives
management. For my Preservation Management class, I’m doing a paper on the
care of View-Master reels. “Preservation” concerns protecting the material
in question from damage and decay, and minimizing deterioration over time. The
aim is to provide information and advice for professionals working in libraries,
archives, historical societies or museums who may have VM reels in their
collections.
       From your experience as collectors and enthusiasts:

What kind of damage and deterioration have you seen among your reels?

What repairs have you made to reels? Did any of the repairs have any unfortunate
consequences later on?

What differences have you found in reels made in different periods, or when
different companies were manufacturing them?

I have read that GAF used inferior film stock, and I’ve seen some reels where
the images have gone red. What years did that happen, and did the image quality
get better after a certain point?

What is the best way to store reels?

How good were the storage products made by VM manufacturers? Which were good,
which not so good? Are the good ones very difficult to get hold of now?

What products sold now, such as sleeves and special boxes, etc., do you
recommend? Which have you had bad experiences with, and what happened?

While the reels look basically the same over the years, have there been changes
in their construction?

I looked at some reels intended for medical textbooks, but they weren’t
attached to books anymore. Does anyone know how those books with reels were made
originally? How were the reels attached to the books?

Do you know of any reel collections in libraries, archives and/or museums?

Are there preservation issues regarding the viewers (short of somebody breaking
or damaging them by force)?

      If a few people could find the time to answer some of these questions,
I’d be most grateful (I have to get my research done by about Dec. 4).
      I have enjoyed researching this subject and looking at reels (the first set
I got as a kid was The Man From U.N.C.L.E.!). I’m sure I’ll learn a lot as I
search through the postings.

Thanks very much,
Betsy

>      I’m in a Master’s program

Sorry, you have to be in a View-Master's program :)

George

yes my office is 503 582 5222 Portland home of Viewmaster  Mark
Kronquist
On Nov 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Betsy Sherman wrote:

> Hello all,
>      I am happy to find this group, and am hoping that you can help
> me with some questions—although I’m aware that this is a very busy
> time of year!
>      I’m in a Master’s program studying library science and archives
> management. For my Preservation Management class, I’m doing a paper
> on the care of View-Master reels. “Preservation” concerns protecting
> the material in question from damage and decay, and minimizing
> deterioration over time. The aim is to provide information and
> advice for professionals working in libraries, archives, historical
> societies or museums who may have VM reels in their collections.
>      From your experience as collectors and enthusiasts:
>
> What kind of damage and deterioration have you seen among your reels?
>
> What repairs have you made to reels? Did any of the repairs have any
> unfortunate consequences later on?
>
> What differences have you found in reels made in different periods,
> or when different companies were manufacturing them?
>
> I have read that GAF used inferior film stock, and I’ve seen some
> reels where the images have gone red. What years did that happen,
> and did the image quality get better after a certain point?
>
> What is the best way to store reels?
>
> How good were the storage products made by VM manufacturers? Which
> were good, which not so good? Are the good ones very difficult to
> get hold of now?
>
> What products sold now, such as sleeves and special boxes, etc., do
> you recommend? Which have you had bad experiences with, and what
> happened?
>
> While the reels look basically the same over the years, have there
> been changes in their construction?
>
> I looked at some reels intended for medical textbooks, but they
> weren’t attached to books anymore. Does anyone know how those books
> with reels were made originally? How were the reels attached to the
> books?
>
> Do you know of any reel collections in libraries, archives and/or
> museums?
>
> Are there preservation issues regarding the viewers (short of
> somebody breaking or damaging them by force)?
>
>     If a few people could find the time to answer some of these
> questions, I’d be most grateful (I have to get my research done by
> about Dec. 4).
>     I have enjoyed researching this subject and looking at reels
> (the first set I got as a kid was The Man From U.N.C.L.E.!). I’m
> sure I’ll learn a lot as I search through the postings.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Betsy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ViewMasterYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Betsy,

First off, thanks for doing this project and I hope you share your
findings with the group.

I am attaching my View-Master reel repair kit document that tells you
a lot about how I repair reels. Although it does not address many of
your questions directly, it might be helpful.

The two major condition problems with View-Master reels is bubbling
and color shift. Bubbling is a result of the combination of the glue
used on reels and humid or moist conditions with storage. Can't do
anything about the glue so the best you can do is store your reels in
a well ventilated space and not in a humid environment. Bubbles often
though not always indicate the possibility of mold on the images that
appears as blue spots or spider web patterns. This is an irreversible
problem as I am sure you know. The same precautions apply. Bubbles
and mold do not always go together. You can have either with or
without the other.

Color shift which you refer to occurred when GAF switched from
Kodachrome film to its own. The date was probably in  1970, but not
every reel has the problem and sometimes only one image on a reel
will have it. Very hard to predict. I find many reels in packets
produced after 1970 that do not have the problem. Maybe these ere old
stock, but for so many years??? I doubt it. There is nothing you can
do to stop the shift process that I know of.

Other problems are image cupping generally due to overheating when a
reel is in a projector, warping which you find especially on the
earlier reels in the gold foil and blue ring reels in the 40s and
30s, and separation of the two sides of the reel due to a
deterioration of the glue. Warping can not be repaired but can be
prevented by limiting projection, warping can be repaired and
separation can be glued.

A great source of info on View-Master is this link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20071015160112/ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~number6/vm/index.h\
tml#tocI

Hope all this helps.

Al Woodcock
ebay id: thepaperguy
ebay rating: over 5400 last time I checked

Hah!  Good one, George!

Betsy, those are some very good questions.  I'm afraid I can't help you, but I
did want to write to congratulate you on your thesis choice and wish you the
best of luck.  I look forward to reading any replies people post on the list.


Sandra
Dearborn, MI

"The dust will wait ... Life won't"



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1b. Re: Can you help me with my paper on the care of reels?
    Posted by: "DrT (George Themelis)" drt-3d@... gathemelis
    Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:38 pm ((PST))

>      I’m in a Master’s program

Sorry, you have to be in a View-Master's program :)

George






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Betsy,

View Productions' reels are in several libraries here and abroad. I once did a
search through 'FirstSearch: Libraries That Own Them' by title and ISBN (our
reels actually have ISBN numbers!) and found we are in libraries at:

Arizona State University
Cal Poly Pomona
UC Berkeley
Savannah College of Art and Design
University of Maryland, College Park
Andrews University
University of Nebraska, Lincoln
New York Institute of Technology
Oklahoma State University
University of Oklahoma
University of Houston
University of Tennessee, Knoxville
National Art Library at the Victoria and Albert Museum, London
Harvard University
Carnegie Mellon University
Art Institute of Chicago
Canadian Centre for Architecture

and possibly a few others.

How they catalogue and store these items I do not know.

I have had some interesting conversation with librarians, which I can pass along
to you in a phone call. Just email me at mailto:view@... and we can chat.
Good luck with your project.

Michael Kaplan
View Productions
http://viewproductions.com

Hi Betsy

Looks like you have got us all buzzing. Well done! ;-)

You have already had a fairly comprehensive reply to your "What kind of
damage and deterioration have you seen among your reels?" but here is a
strange thing I have noticed.

Having specialised in View Master items for around 25 years I have seen and
handled may thousands of reels. Being based in the UK around 50% of the
reels I get to see were made in the USA & 50% in Belgium. Like most other
people I have noticed that some titles are VERY common and others rare (I
word I do not use lightly - see my View Master web site linked below).
Almost always reels with the dreaded 'bubbles' are ones that have been
poorly stored and can turn up on any reel and where one is found it is not
uncommon for other reels in that new batch to have the same problem.

However, just very occasionally, the 'bubbles' can be traced to a particular
reel number. Take reel 1010 Hampton Court, England which is an uncommon
reel. I guess I have had this less than 20 times in 25 years, but only 5 or
6 have NOT had a very bad case of the bubbles. This is a much higher
percentage than any other reel (UK or not) I have seen and sometimes it is
the only reel with a problem in a new batch that comes along. Why should
this be? I can only think that as it was not too popular it sat around in
poor storage (either with Sawyers or the UK distributor) a lot longer than
most other reels and started to breakdown.

Also something we all often tend to forget is that reels were never
originally designed to be "collectors items". If when they were first
launched they thought that they would have to last 40 to 70 years, I'm
betting Sawyer's would never have introduced them at all! All things
considered, a pretty damn good example of their quality control at the time.

I'm not sure what this all means, just thought it might be of interest. ;-)

Best regards

Tim Goldsmith
(UK)






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Betsy,

I think your thesis is very relevant in the area of art preservation.  Many
historians today look to stereoviews of the 19th century to observe the
life-styles in vogue at that time and to gain historical facts about events
and places.  I believe that what stereoviews were to the late 19th century,
view-master reels will be or are to the mid-20th century ­ a pictorial
documentation of that time.

Since most of the film used in the production of the reels was manufactured
by Kodak you may want to refer to the document łStorage and Care of Kodak
Photographic Materials˛ for further information.  It can be found at:

www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/e30/e30.pdf

In my opinion humidity is the greatest nemesis to the preservation of reels.
Many of the early reels (not the images) were produced exclusively with pulp
and/or paper materials and as such are highly affected by humidity.  This
situation has resulted in pronounced warping of many of the reels.  Humidity
promotes the growth of mold, which flourishes in the proximity of film
emulsion, which acts a nutrient.  Others have pointed out the effect
humidity may have in łbubbling.˛  Conversely too little humidity may
contribute to the drying out of the adhesive that hold the reeląs components
together resulting in the materials splitting apart over time.  What is the
optimum storage humidity that would minimize these effects?  I donąt know,
but maybe some researcher could get a government grant to investigate the
issue.

As someone else pointed out, the reels were never intended to last for 60+
years.  The fact that they do is quite remarkable.

It would be interesting if you would share a final copy of your thesis with
this group and even provide us with drafts for peer review.

Best of luck.

George Z.

P.S.  There is currently an exhibit, albeit small, of View-Master reels and
ephemera at the San Jose Museum of Art in California (
http://www.sjmusart.org/).


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