There is nothing beneficial for the workers of Iran, or the workers of Latin
America within the alliance of the Iranian and the Venezuelan government,
it is a typical capitalist alliance, even more, the Iranian capitalist are
investing heavily in the Venezuelan economy, which means that, they will
obtain surplus value from the sweat of the Venezuelan workers, in the same
manner that the European capitalists are extracting surplus value from the
Cuban workers, that is the reason why one sectors of the US capitalists
wanted to open relation with the Cuban government, because their investment
are secured by the state capitalists

The Venezuela and Iranian capitalists are playing the anti-imperialist
card against the US capitalists, by the meantime, they are making alliance
with the imperialist of Russia and China, which are also investing in
Venezuela, and then, we can hear to the leftists shouting about
neo-liberalism. Anybody that takes sides with anyone of them, is taking
sides with the capitalists, at the present time there are more thieves in
the market that during the cold war.

The Russian and the Iranian capitalists are investing in the productions of
weapons, and oil and gas, they are not investing in the productions of
foods for the poor peoples of Venezuela, these so called anti-imperialist
nonsenses are markets contradictions among themselves,

The Russian capitalists are doing now what they were not permitted to do
during the cold wars epoch, which was to invest openly in Latin America, and
to make military maneuvers in the Caribbean sea. The Venezuelan government
is planning to create an OPEC, and they are already selling petroleum to the
Caribbean nations using a state company named PetroCaribe, in order to
replace Exxon, Texaco, or Chevron, it is the replacement of one groups of
capitalists for another groups of exploiters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7747793.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5226290.stm

2009/7/10 trotfinder2007 <trotfinder2007@...>

>
>
> Hi all esp. Mike M
>
> MM: "However, I suspect that such opposition is of a bourgeois revolution
> mentality"
>
> Certainly. The Iranian anti-theocratic dictatorship, pro-democracy
> movement, if such exists, is certainly not socialist in any shape or form.
> However, if Iranian workers can get more breathing room to organise
> politically and economically, that is to be welcomed. It looks unlikely for
> the time being, as the Iranian state forces have been set in motion. It is,
> though, only a question of time before the Islamic Republic of Iran becomes
> historical trash. When it does, it will send a shockwave through the Middle
> East; all those poncy sheiks in Saudi Arabia, for example, will have to hope
> they can book a ticket for Mars with NASA, and not as space tourists.
>
> MM: " and the way the US Government and media has been playing it, the
> demonstrators and opposition are being used as tools of the Capitalist
> Imperialist status quo."
>
> You cannot hope to bribe or twist, thank god the British journalist, but
> seeing what he'll do, there's never occasion to! Fuck the media - they are
> idiots, presenting far from objective coverage, most of the time. The
> Iranian demonstrators are more than Mousadi's people.
>
> MM."I respect Ahmadinejad for his hard line against the hegemonic forces of
> the US and the associated Capitalist interests. I respect Islam, certainly
> more than hedonistic immoral and amoral Western civilization. Venezuela and
> Iran have formed strategic economic alliances. That is good."
>
> Well, that is utter nonsense. Iran is a monstrous, theocratic dictatorship.
> Ahmadinejad deserves no respect at all. It is utter foolishness to support
> him and the dictatorship in any way just because he and it make
> anti-imperialist statements. The working class of Iran is exploited and also
> imprisoned and killed for voicing any opposition to the regime.
>
> There is nothing good about capitalist Venezuela and Iran forming an
> alliance, any more than the "special relationship" between Britain and
> America. You are taking the side of one section of the ruling classes
> against the other, when neither should be supported at all.
>
> Finally, Islam is not a better way of life at all. It is an irrational
> religious belief which is as anti-human as the other nutty stuff about - eg.
> Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism.
>
> Graham
>
>
>


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