... "Automatically" is putting it a bit strongly, but basically Yes - in a free market. The reason it doesn't always happen is government hampering of market...
... Could you elaborate on this a bit? Which families? What "outright theft"? Perhaps some examples? Thanks. Best, John R Henry CPP Visit the Quick Changeover...
... Isn't it always necessary to present literal accounts of social events if they are known and/or available? You seem to use the word "figurative" as a...
Stuart, according to you no one including Marx has all of the answers about class consciousness. According to Dave Flynn my inability to supply an adequate ...
Robert Malone
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Apr 1, 2002 11:00 am
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... I ... If the SPGB had a theory of how individuals attain class consciousness, it would have applied it and we wouldn't be here discussing it. We would have...
Julian Vein
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Apr 1, 2002 12:37 pm
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... floor ... The point is that _prices_ will vary, and not depend linearly on labour expended. ... I have never said or suggested that. Nor have I seen anyone...
<< The reason you don't buy refrigerators for a nickel is because the underlying value of that commodity took a lot than a nickel's worth of labor power to...
Don ... How does this relate to anything I said? It doesn't. You're not making any sense, dear. Toby...
johnny mushroom
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Apr 1, 2002 1:20 pm
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<< ZAC ... with common ownership of productive capacity and free access, you won't have the benefit of price information to guide you in decision-making. And...
<< Zac Buyers try to buy as cheaply as possible, and have a maximum price they can/are prepared to go to; anything below that is a consumer bonus. << Bill...
... From: Julian Vein: Subject: Re: [WSM Socialism Forum] class consciousness (2) reply to com malone ... it ... have ... Only if the SPGB has claimed that it...
... It appears that the pace of your postings of cockeyed dialogue to me will beome a fusillade. With concern for not plastering the forum to extreme, I will...
Hi John Henry, Just because workers are paid at different rates, doesn't negate the labour theory of value or the fact workers produce surplus value by adding ...
John Ayers
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Apr 1, 2002 4:34 pm
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To "sane society" Don: sorry, couldn't make head nor tail of your reply. Something about slop buckets. Congratulations, though, on writing posts so pigheaded ...
Stuart Watkins
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Apr 1, 2002 4:54 pm
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Hi all Had some overnight thoughts on the subject matter, for what they are worth. Q. How does class consciousness come about? A. By recognising class...
Hi Stuart ... Agree but don't dismiss them they all added to our social learning. ... I doubt if escalations of class struggle lead automatically to the ...
Bonjour Citizen John Ayers, Methinks you are one of "us", a fellow Canadian, a proud countryman and, unlike "us", a member of the World Socialist Movement. Did...
Citizens of the World
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Apr 1, 2002 6:56 pm
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Bonjour Comrades, May we have some research assistance in thinking through this question about the importance of class consciousness? Are there any members of...
Citizens of the World
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Apr 1, 2002 7:27 pm
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INTERNET STATUS QUO By The Common Couple When John Henry does a <G> He wants we see it as a <G>rin: Then think fear eyes and a pout snout Wreathed by a double...
Citizens of the World
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Apr 1, 2002 7:58 pm
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In a message dated 3/29/02 1:09:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, reg_jongleur@... writes: All prices are in practice influenced by scarcities. In an...
... I disagree based upon Marx's Materialist Conception of History, which establishes that the level of material development, the evolution of the productive...
Hello Comrades, I have not paid much attention to the forum for some considerable time. Having literally just reaquainted myself with some of the discussions I...
Andy Davies
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Apr 1, 2002 10:29 pm
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War is Terrorism (War = Terror) If there ever was a moment to question the practice of war and violence, it will be today. By looking at the horrible events...
Bonjour Citizen, Preface to " A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy" , Karl Marx, Progress Publishers Moscow, 1970 & 1977 " In the social...
Robert Malone
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Apr 2, 2002 10:17 am
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... Maxmising output and minimising input. ... That is not fundamentally what a price system does. A price system shows opportunity costs of some goods in ...
... But some workers get £5 an hour, others get £50 or even £500. How do you explain this? ... You are making the fundamantal error of assuming that all...
In a message dated 3/29/02 8:15:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, reg_jongleur@... writes: << Jobs are created where they are most urgently needed. The lower...
Bonjour and merci, for the tip: Preface to " A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy" , Karl Marx, Progress Publishers Moscow, 1970 & 1977 We have...
Citizens of the World
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Apr 2, 2002 2:28 pm
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Settle the economic question and you settle all other questions. It is the Aaron's rod which swallows up the rest. __William Morris For a sane society Don...
