Adam - if I could intervene here, a couple of points: ... The problem here is that the "something practical now" goes on and will continue to go on despite the...
... And while you're making pointless appeals to fiction, John, I suggest you have a look at Silkwood, which is a rather truer account of how a nuclear worker...
Paddy Shannon
P.Shannon@...
Mar 1, 2003 10:04 am
19014
... understand what is meant by the "big bang" scenario of socialist revolution if he imagines this is not the mainstream view of the SPGB/WSM. So I will ...
Paddy Shannon
P.Shannon@...
Mar 1, 2003 10:43 am
19015
Hi Paddy ... Here is the irrefutable proof that you are wrong in thinking this. It is a Conference Resolution from the 1989 Annual conference of the SPGB which...
by god, you lot are boring.... This socialist worker is out there doing socialist propaganda, in the belief socialist revolution is made by my class fellows G ...
grahamt@...
Mar 1, 2003 11:08 am
19017
Following is the thirteenth installment of Unity and then there is unity--for the first through the twelfth installments see messages: 18703, 18725, 18755,...
PADDY: One reason you can be hard work Robin is because it takes you so damn long to say anything. If a thing's worth saying, it's worth saying in a...
Robin Perhaps if you availed yourself of a little knowledge of the American Revolution you would not be so apt to harp on the "big bang revolution" bit. Did...
PADDY: "The fact that you are prepared to waste such time and effort on this point AND FURTHER DIVIDE A SMALL MOVEMENT only goes to show me how your thinking...
Torgun Bullen
torgun.bullen@...
Mar 1, 2003 12:06 pm
19021
ANDREW: WHERE does ultimate authority lie? < ROBIN: Ultimate authority in what respect - to do what? < Coercive authority, ie politics - the ultimate sanction...
MICHAEL: If oil shale were a substitute for oil, we'd be using it now. < No, that would be insane; you only use substitutes when you have to. Right now...
Let's assume Michael is right and shale oil is an energy sink. Why is this something we need to worry about? As a theoretical example, assume further that we...
Oh dear, hysteria reigns. Temper temper, keep your hairshirts on. Ok, my third and last post today and then I'll have to go and do something practical (like...
Paddy Shannon
P.Shannon@...
Mar 1, 2003 1:09 pm
19025
Hi Julian, Julian: But lets not forget there are countless other ways in which 'socialistic relationships' (not sure I like the term but it will have to do for...
ROBIN: Here is the irrefutable proof that you are wrong in thinking this. It is a Conference Resolution from the 1989 Annual conference of the SPGB which I...
hi Hydro, Thanks for pointing this out - you are absolutely right, there is a big difference between the two (I know I should have kept reading!). There have...
Blimey, I get back from watching my football team getting stuffed by Swindon (!) only to find that all hell has broken loose on this forum. Forget Bush versus...
The recent discussion about art under socialism and the larger discussion of who will do the work illustrates the fatal flaw in the labor theory of value. That...
John Henry
john@...
Mar 1, 2003 10:21 pm
19031
... Ahhhh.... That explains why you thought they were in the pay of the nuclear industry. ... Michael, you've done it. You've written the perfect note. The...
John Henry
john@...
Mar 1, 2003 10:21 pm
19032
... I can't. I'm allergic to Cher. Best, John R Henry CPP Visit the Quick Changeover website at http://www.changeover.com Subscribe to the Quick Changeover...
John Henry
john@...
Mar 1, 2003 10:21 pm
19033
... What is the common thread among nuclear power plants and nuclear bomb research? Come on, you know this as well as I do. Can you say radioactive waste? (So...
... The basic point to grasp here, is that the economic data ignores the technical data. If I was in the "all bidness" and I used two barrels of oil to produce...
... You are ignoring the economic concept of emergy, or embodied energy, meaning the calories or joules of one kind of energy required to make those of...
Hi all, Surely the mere existence of use-value production is no proof of a dual economy existing under capitalism. Isn't the whole point of Marx's analysis of...
... From: "John Henry" <john@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Art and LTOV ... other...
jimmymoir
JIMMY@...
Mar 3, 2003 12:23 am
19038
Julian Prior:
"(...) WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE HERE FOLKS!"
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Magda
lawyer77@...
Mar 3, 2003 12:35 am
19039
I've received no messages from WSM since last night, march 1, 2003, by my clock. My own messages have not been posted, nor have I seen anything, either via...
ANDEW: The basic point to grasp here, is that the economic data contains the technical data. MICHAEL: If I was in the "all bidness" and I used two barrels of...
Hi Malcolm Rather than pointlessly trade insults with the likes of Paddy and Adam I would far sooner engage with the kind of reasonable and constructive...
