It is true that many countries claim to be supporting socialistic policies, even if they are not socialist. There are no countries in the world that are even...
Sean G Moberg
mobergse@...
Oct 1, 2003 10:49 am
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You say there is no working class but then you say somthing about "Honest, working people" Explain. Also, I am wondering how the US economy can function...
For those still having trouble understanding the energy cost ofenergy production: http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?articleID=713&journalI ...
... The US economy functions at the direction of the corporate oligarchy. The US has been restructured on the corporate model from homes to schools to the...
you two... the reason capital is prevalent is because the folks who cooperate to control the armies declare it to be the way. the reason why socialism is not...
DB
nogangrape@...
Oct 2, 2003 12:32 am
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... GRAHAM: blab...blab...blab. The Duke appears to forget some people have done at least general science at High School. Heck, even Homer Simpson famously...
Lo All, sorry, been too busy to make this post, but will now. 1) Could all posts under the thread featuring the word 'Haypuke' please be made under a different...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1053445,00.html is a rather depressing read. ________________________________________ Få din egen webmail...
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Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 2, 2003 10:02 am
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Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 2, 2003 10:06 am
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Hi Michael, you came to this forum declaring yourself a socialist, and yet you are unwilling to recognise what is commonly acknowledged by millions of ...
Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Oct 2, 2003 11:17 am
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... The problem arises, IMHO, from the WSM/SPGB definition of "working class" as those who sell their labor (mental & physical-JRH) to survive. This includes...
Thanks to Robert and John for the detailed explanation of the WSM definition of class. Since class is an arbitrary identifier, one may certainly define a class...
Lo John, ... class" ... Not merely those. It is those who are dependent upon the sale of labour *power* (the distinction is important). thus spouses, ...
Re pensions. Not so many years ago, the European Court(?) ruled that pensions were deferred wages. Also, in the UK, the Inland Revenue classes pensions as...
DB, me too for what? My response to Michael had nothing to do with what my convictions on socialism are. It was merely a tongue in cheek check on his ...
... From: "Hayduke" <hayduke@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Class definition ...
douglas-McLellan
william@...
Oct 2, 2003 6:51 pm
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Hello, esp Bill M, Bill M: Working class "is those who are dependent upon the sale of labour *power* (the distinction is important)." Norbert: You are right...
... I do not understand why this distinction makes any difference. Elaboration? ... Then by this definition, the capitalist is dependent upon the workers and ...
Lo John, ... Elaboration? The distinction is key to the existence of exploitation. We do not sell our labour, our actual work we perform, but we sell our...
... Lewis Henry Morgan is not at all relegated to the realm of unperson. I teach about his work regularly in my anthropology classes. I also teach that his...
on 10/2/03 11:49 AM, douglas-McLellan at ... Hmmm, I suspect this may be a difference between the US and te UK. My economic position is very low. My wife and I...
... Mr. Michael A. Lewis B.A., Phd informed this forum that he gave up a career to grow a beanpatch and work radio; he isn't a worker, only a contractor, ...
... Aye, tis a strange and wonderful world with such wonders in it. Graham may not have heard of this: some folks do things for rewards other than money. -- ...
... unperson. I ... "I teach about his work regularly in my anthropology classes. I am not in the slightest impressed that you teach antropology. I am not...
Lo All, This ends now! This is a forum for discussing socialism and related topics, not dissecting teh private life of one individual. i don't care who began ...
For those not familiar with the work of Lewis Henry Morgan, it is worth noting that his work made a major contribution to the science of anthropology in its...
Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Oct 3, 2003 9:09 am
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Dr. Lewis, I am glad to hear you teach what you know about anthropology totally gratis. The love of a subject is truly infectious; e.g. teachers may receive ...
Lo All, I view this list on-line. I don't appreciate correspondance being sent to my personal e-mail address. If anyone wants to contact me regarding...
