It is true that many countries claim to be supporting socialistic policies, even if they are not socialist. There are no countries in the world that are even...
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Dan Read
read_1983
Oct 1, 2003 6:18 pm
You say there is no working class but then you say somthing about "Honest, working people" Explain. Also, I am wondering how the US economy can function...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 1, 2003 7:59 pm
For those still having trouble understanding the energy cost ofenergy production: http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?articleID=713&journalI ...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 1, 2003 8:17 pm
... The US economy functions at the direction of the corporate oligarchy. The US has been restructured on the corporate model from homes to schools to the...
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DB
nogangrape@...
Oct 2, 2003 12:32 am
you two... the reason capital is prevalent is because the folks who cooperate to control the armies declare it to be the way. the reason why socialism is not...
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grahamt@...
trotfinder
Oct 2, 2003 4:58 am
... GRAHAM: blab...blab...blab. The Duke appears to forget some people have done at least general science at High School. Heck, even Homer Simpson famously...
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reddeathy
Oct 2, 2003 7:32 am
Lo All, sorry, been too busy to make this post, but will now. 1) Could all posts under the thread featuring the word 'Haypuke' please be made under a different...
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grahamt@...
trotfinder
Oct 2, 2003 8:25 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/feature/story/0,13026,1053445,00.html is a rather depressing read. ________________________________________ Få din egen webmail...
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Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 2, 2003 10:02 am
... From: <grahamt@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: [WSM_Forum] End of the Age of Oil ... shops ... ...
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Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 2, 2003 10:06 am
... From: "reddeathy" <reddeathy@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Moderation notice ...
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Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Oct 2, 2003 11:17 am
Hi Michael, you came to this forum declaring yourself a socialist, and yet you are unwilling to recognise what is commonly acknowledged by millions of ...
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John Henry
jimmy3jay
Oct 2, 2003 3:13 pm
... The problem arises, IMHO, from the WSM/SPGB definition of "working class" as those who sell their labor (mental & physical-JRH) to survive. This includes...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 2, 2003 3:40 pm
Thanks to Robert and John for the detailed explanation of the WSM definition of class. Since class is an arbitrary identifier, one may certainly define a class...
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reddeathy
Oct 2, 2003 5:19 pm
Lo John, ... class" ... Not merely those. It is those who are dependent upon the sale of labour *power* (the distinction is important). thus spouses, ...
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Keith G. Powell
keithgpowell
Oct 2, 2003 6:35 pm
Re pensions. Not so many years ago, the European Court(?) ruled that pensions were deferred wages. Also, in the UK, the Inland Revenue classes pensions as...
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yojudo71
Oct 2, 2003 6:37 pm
DB, me too for what? My response to Michael had nothing to do with what my convictions on socialism are. It was merely a tongue in cheek check on his ...
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douglas-McLellan
william@...
Oct 2, 2003 6:51 pm
... From: "Hayduke" <hayduke@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Class definition ...
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anattavada03
Oct 2, 2003 7:09 pm
Hello, esp Bill M, Bill M: Working class "is those who are dependent upon the sale of labour *power* (the distinction is important)." Norbert: You are right...
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John Henry
jimmy3jay
Oct 2, 2003 8:06 pm
... I do not understand why this distinction makes any difference. Elaboration? ... Then by this definition, the capitalist is dependent upon the workers and ...
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reddeathy
Oct 2, 2003 8:20 pm
Lo John, ... Elaboration? The distinction is key to the existence of exploitation. We do not sell our labour, our actual work we perform, but we sell our...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 2, 2003 8:38 pm
... Lewis Henry Morgan is not at all relegated to the realm of unperson. I teach about his work regularly in my anthropology classes. I also teach that his...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 2, 2003 8:43 pm
on 10/2/03 11:49 AM, douglas-McLellan at ... Hmmm, I suspect this may be a difference between the US and te UK. My economic position is very low. My wife and I...
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grahamt@...
trotfinder
Oct 2, 2003 8:55 pm
... Mr. Michael A. Lewis B.A., Phd informed this forum that he gave up a career to grow a beanpatch and work radio; he isn't a worker, only a contractor, ...
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Hayduke
abbeyista2
Oct 2, 2003 9:01 pm
... Aye, tis a strange and wonderful world with such wonders in it. Graham may not have heard of this: some folks do things for rewards other than money. -- ...
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yojudo71
Oct 2, 2003 10:00 pm
... unperson. I ... "I teach about his work regularly in my anthropology classes. I am not in the slightest impressed that you teach antropology. I am not...
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reddeathy
Oct 3, 2003 7:25 am
Lo All, This ends now! This is a forum for discussing socialism and related topics, not dissecting teh private life of one individual. i don't care who began ...
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grahamt@...
trotfinder
Oct 3, 2003 7:54 am
http://money.guardian.co.uk/news_/story/0,1456,1054927,00.html a little look into the elderly, British proletariats' lives. ...
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Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Oct 3, 2003 9:09 am
For those not familiar with the work of Lewis Henry Morgan, it is worth noting that his work made a major contribution to the science of anthropology in its...
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grahamt@...
trotfinder
Oct 3, 2003 9:09 am
Dr. Lewis, I am glad to hear you teach what you know about anthropology totally gratis. The love of a subject is truly infectious; e.g. teachers may receive ...
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reddeathy
Oct 3, 2003 3:51 pm
Lo All, I view this list on-line. I don't appreciate correspondance being sent to my personal e-mail address. If anyone wants to contact me regarding...
