There was an interesting article in mondays Guardian in which down sizing led to a doubling of coronary heart disease among those workers left after firms have...
... If you are going around telling workers it is not in their interest to exert less effort on their job, it is little wonder that socialism is not taken...
... Okay. It seems to me that this mean that at times (due to errors in data, limited resources, personal grudges or for other reasons) there will be...
joeysurreal wrote: "http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb" A fine issue indeed! It gives a fair representation and fair criticisms of the SPGB splinter group...
Lo Trevor, ... there ... ow ... They will have to be resolved by democratic discussion and prioritisation of some projects over others, exactly as happens in ...
there are no economics in a socialist system ... Okay. It seems to me that this mean that at times (due to errors in data, limited resources, personal grudges...
... Well for starters we would have to get conformists to let others to live their own life (including them). Infact it would be a disaster to have these...
Trevor, no problem, anybody can reprint anything from the Socialist Standard or any other of our publications. All we ask that the source is acknowledged ...
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Hi John Henry, You keep telling us you have read Marx, you insist you understand the Labour Theory of Value, and yet you continue to misrepresent what Marx...
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John ... But that is precisely the point: in a socialist system there will be no need to "measure value"!! The need to do so arises purely from the exigencies...
Adam wrote: "no problem, anybody can reprint anything from the Socialist Standard or any other of our publications." Very good - I'll give full credit and...
... Hardly, we've been through this all before. You don't have to get any further than about page 5 of the Penguin edition of Capital. (Actually page 129 after...
... Of course there is. If not in a monetary sense, in the sense that the socialist society will need to evaluate competing alternatives or competing ...
Lo John, if I may step in here... ... Actually, if they were selling the identical skill 'type' i.e., say, two computer programmers, they would have the same...
John ... You misunderstand. Sure, a socialist society will need to choose between competing alternatives but this not the same thing as "measuring value" at...
Lo John, ... No, John. There would be measure of value, in Marx's sense, because the goods would be produced directly for use, not produced with a view for...
Adamski, you ask: "I simply want to know how we can change the world in the only way which is possible; socially and democratically. I want to learn from ...
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Editors Socialist Standard Dear Comrades Congratulations on publishing an excellent centenary edition of the Socialist Standard. It made for a most stimulating...
Of the three alleged 'errors' the second and third are matters of interpretation of course, but the first is not an error at all. I advise Robin to read the...
Adam Buick wrote: " [...] The logical way to do this is to cooperate together to do this (to produce wealth) and then share this out according to a person's...
... and other people, or other people? The person and the community. You walk into a store and take what you want, the store is stocked based on the community...
... Will you feel better if we talk about measuring "utility" instead? See my previous note to Bill. ... Will a socialist administration make decisions based...
At 08:18 AM 6/3/2004 +0000, you wrote: Before I reply, let me ask a question about the meaning of the word "value". Dictionary.com defines it as: "Worth in...
... But, by your own statement there, one does assign value, or utility, to the painting. If I have 2 paintings, one will be more aesthetically pleasing to me...
psycho_fox_1 wrote: "The person and the community. You walk into a store and take what you want, the store is stocked based on the community and any...
Lo John, ... merit: the ... That may be how value is often used, however, dictionaries are not teh be all and end all of definition, we are using value in a ...
Hi John Henry, You are still misrepresenting Marx, and I can understand that you do not wish to agree with him, because you have a mindset that wishes to...
Robert Malone
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Hi Matt ... Incorrect, Im afraid. The first error is still an error because the review in the Socialist Standard quite clearly refers to the document,"The...
The real difference between Robin and the World Socialist Movement is not really over what's likely to happen when the socialist movement becomes a mass...
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Please note that the time of the guided walking tour of Clerkenwell and Holborn on Sunday 13 June is 11am REPEAT 11am. The correct time is in the June...