Re Pieter 28934: Pieter you describe a system under socialism whereby local political government would essentially be retained as is and the national ...
I knew it would happen....Mike, Dave and Byron have finally sucked the life out of this forum with their withering one-dimensional assault on this forum...
Dave, I don't think your speculation that the difference between what Marx says in Volume I of Capital and in Volume III about the price at which commodities ...
Adam Buick
alb342@...
Jan 3, 2006 10:11 am
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Hey Wage guy: Don't croak yet. We need all the revolutionaries we can get! Just because we DeLeonists believe that socialists can exist outside our SIU...
Re: Adam 29176; Paul 29175 Adam wrote (29176) apparently to Dave B. in part: I don't think your speculation that the difference between what Marx says in ...
Dear Adam I think that when they wrote volume I they were aware of a contradiction in the law of value but perhaps had not FULLY worked out how to resolve it....
... From: "David Searles" <davidasearles@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: [WSM_Forum] (unknown) Re...
Phyl and Piet
phyl@...
Jan 3, 2006 6:27 pm
29181
Although this thread is apparently addressed to the law of value it has other implications. After dealing with the law of value I shall get to the other...
Dear Robin I think that there will be "immense spatial inequalities inherited from capitalism" when we first obtain socialism is a truism but nevertheless is...
Hi Dave ... take ... initially ... workers ... Possibly although I wouldnt perhaps go as far as to this was true of all workers or even possibly a majority of...
Re: Pieter 29180 Thank you for the response Pieter. I did as you suggest take a look at your book chap 5 on democracy and #6 of the statement of principles...
Hi Dave, happy new year. I applaud your diligence in researching volumes 1 to 3 of Capital in looking at the Law of Value. ... My perception is that profit is...
Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Jan 4, 2006 1:31 am
29186
Re: Robert 29185. Robert wrote in part: My perception is that profit is only realised when an exchange at a sufficient price is received for the commodity. ...
Byron 29181 ... I was thinking that the LV's, whether old or new, would uniformly *increase* in value: Lepore 29056 ... ***** D. Searles 29186 ... Even if the...
... Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, David Searles <davidasearles@...> ... There's something very screwy and strange about this List; but since I simply...
grok@...
Jan 4, 2006 8:54 am
29189
Hi Everyone, I have come to the conclusion that the WSM is being somewhat hypocritical on the issue of voting for world socialism. Why? because we say we are...
... I assume you haven't stayed around to read answers to your mail, but it's simply not true that the WSM is a reformist organisation. For that to be the...
Paul Bennett
Paul.Bennett@...
Jan 4, 2006 10:35 am
29191
... Firstly, at present we spend very little time or effort in contesting elections in comparison to all our other activity, so your point about wasting energy...
Paul Bennett
Paul.Bennett@...
Jan 4, 2006 10:37 am
29192
Re: Grok 29188; Mike 29187 As the smoke cleared, Grok mounted the barricade and roared out: There's something very screwy and strange about this List; but...
Bob: People can collect whatever suits them under socialism as long as we all understand that the owner of the LVs are the only ones authorized to exchange...
I am not a member of the WSM, but I do not think that the WSM is a reformist organization, on the contrary there are more reformists outisde the WSM that...
In Adam's initial response (29082) to Grok re the WTO, I was struck by his description of an alternative socialist world in which "all the world's natural...
Mike: When I say "decrease" in value this didn't mean that they would be able to obtain less than the original expectations of when they were produced. I ...
... Hello again Dave in vt, If your Guy's self analysis turned out right, I wonder what his problem was? ... But nobody argues about that, aeroplanes, and 4x4...
Happy Birthday Jimmy. Here's hoping that neither you, nor anyone else in the world, ever gets Labour Vouchers for their birthday, or for any day. Yfs Paula ......
Dear Bob I now intend to be very bold. You are quite right profit is only the same as surplus value under certain circumstances, ie average conditions or...
The columns in my equation have shifted position hopefully it still makes the sense I meant ... under ... capitalist ... it, ... law ... at ... sell ... ...
... Come now Grok you havent even bothered to read much of the WSM literature have you? Now I talk to Grok all the time and if the WSM is reformist Grok is a...
... Of course we wouldnt be putting much energy in right now but if the WSM ever "caught on" with a significant amount of people it would be wasting precious...
Dear All I think I am going to expose myself to some more flak by stating that I have never been totally convinced about the idea of making participating in...