Hello, my name is JOJO. I spent some time reading and learning about this World Socialist Movement. At first I was opposed by the whole thing...But after some...
Guys, Karl Marx on soccer needs still more translation! As for rugby, hard to see all that aggression lasting in socialism. Rugby is a bourgeois sport, played...
... From: "John B Books" <socialism_now@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [WSM_Forum] Re: No...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Jul 1, 2006 11:11 am
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... in 'authority derives from..';'sovereignty deriving from industrial democracy') ... I have always felt the emphasis on this term was a poor choice for most...
... fact sent by me--Byron. ... I apologize to Byron and Dave B. for the mixup. I finally reaized why I frequently switch the references of you two guys, the ...
... bourgeois state establishment and their masters and introduced through the military and 'public' (that's private) schools.> Hi John, As per my couple of...
... From: "rewcbr13" <rewcbr13@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Re: No scores and...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Jul 1, 2006 2:06 pm
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Hi JOJO There are some OK points in here I think. I suppose in capitalism we do personally experience "laziness" when the alarm clock goes off at 8 o' clock in...
Dear Dave S I am glad that you are still with us to provide some sincere opposing ideas and thus debate I don't even mind you mixing my stuff up with Byrons,...
John: There is no question that sports will be viewed quite differently than they are today, but don't assume that our feces will suddenly take on the odor of...
Lillia: Both production and culture and directly tied to the level of technology in that society. The reference you need is TECHNOLOGY. If we sent 1,000...
i reposted Dave Balmers critique of Parecon from this list on to another website and T Wetzel , an advocate of Parecon answered with the following . Who is...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Jul 1, 2006 6:07 pm
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Dave B. 30592, JOJO 30585 Dave B. 30592 wrote: If we want to look at wasted effort in capitalism we could get a snap shot by looking at cost of America's war...
Well I would rather not do this on my own. This might end up spinning around a "was Russia State Capitalist" argument and I know there others better equipped...
Hi Graham, speaking from a country (New Zealand) that has been dominated by rugby union in social and political terms, - witness the anti-Springbok tour of...
Robert Malone
r.malone@...
Jul 2, 2006 1:34 am
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So there is no market in Parecon. So from ; http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=26&ItemID=10440 We have; "If you want to consume coal and...
More on voting rights: I have yet to hear of anyone from the WSM (SPGB in particular) say that they think that the WSM was wrong in not supporting voting...
Although my interest in sport is minimal, my "default" support position is always for the "foreigner". If there were "no scoring" I would have been denied the...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Jul 2, 2006 8:11 am
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Hello Bob as said, the rugger I know is working class rugger. The only back scrathing we do is with a boot!;) There have been some times where me and some of...
David S: The long view, of course is that voting rights are unimportant as long as capitalism exists. This is akin to lying in an intersection after being hit...
... So you are inviting what EP Thompson called criticism from the, "condecension of posterity"? From where they were situated,at that time, ,property...
Further to Dave Balmer's critique of Parecon there has been an earlier discussion on an anarchist web site which has had Brian Gardner of Glasgow br...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Jul 2, 2006 6:32 pm
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Byron 30604, Matt 30605 Byron 30604 wrote re my post on voting rights: ************* The long view, of course is that voting rights are unimportant as long as ...
Having recently viewed the documentary on Chavez " The Revolution will not be Televised " at our West Lothian Discussion Meeting , i was interested to read...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Jul 2, 2006 8:37 pm
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Tom Wetzel replies to Dave Balmer SPGB can't distinguish capitalism from pre-capitalist societies by Tom Wetzel - WSA (personal capacity) Sunday, Jul 2 2006,...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Jul 2, 2006 10:18 pm
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Dave: My point was that the long view is futile. The now is what is important. In the long run we are all dead. If we attempt to project the future every...
A rather amusing ( i think ) and educational little video at :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1oGIffyVVk&search=karl%20marx Also another thought-provoking...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Jul 3, 2006 7:57 am
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Lo All, just two other point. The SPGB makes a distinction between reformism, the practice of campiagning for and promoting a platform of reforms, and the...
Robert, I don't think we will want League or a Union in anything that is to do with competition in socialism, that includes World Cup or Wimbledon events. ...
Byron, I don't think we want to see 'professionalism' or 'amateurism' in anything in socialsim. These are concepts that belong in the bourgeois conciseness...
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