Hi all: I am not ducking the facts of religionist shenanigans. Of course I oppose all of the oppressions you mention, but mainly because they have attempted...
Switched on the radio this morning to BBC Radio Five Live. It was featuring the Chinese Grand Prix, so I checked with Radio 4 and BBC World Service and found...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 1, 2006 8:33 am
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Off hand I can think of the Quakers for one do not follow "leaders." at least the non-programed kind. jim John Davies <jd1883@...> wrote: Hi all, ...
... From: "jrdavis" <from_alamut@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [WSM_Forum] Re: Trying to trace...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 1, 2006 9:14 am
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Mal: Jefferson Davis, the president of the confederacy, had planned on expanding chattel slavery into Mexico. Practically though, both Northern Mexico and the...
Having read and re-read the Ted Grant obituary at http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/sep06/page12.html, what surprised me was the amount of splits with various...
I think the implication of; "religionists who advocate the oppression of women and homosexuals, advocate the murder of those who criticise their religion, and ...
Reply to Mal and to Dave Balmer Mal wrote: Some historians doubt that chattel slavery could have lasted much longer than it did in the South. As you say the...
Hi Dave, Your not dealing with my point. The fact that chattel slavery was highly profitable does not mean that it could have continued indefinitely. To do so...
Mal writes "And anyway, I wonder if the difference between slaveholding and wage-labour IS purely legalistic." I think you wonder wisely as Karl "wondered"...
Gap between the richest and poorest workers widens · City and oil sector top the salary league · Supermarkets and cleaning firms at bottom Ashley Seager and...
Dear all esp dave B, It's worth noting that the ancient Greeks knew of several kinds of slavery, usually depending on how you got there - sold as a child,...
A short video of Howard Zinn discussing the fallacy that we are inherently war-like . ( I may be wrong , but i believe in the course of the conversation he...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Oct 3, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thought it might be appreciated by some who can remember him , downloadable mp3 songs thats been entered in a political protest song contest from ex-...
alan johnstone
ajsc21755@...
Oct 4, 2006 11:23 am
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The point was? Notice I didn't say indefinite, I said that it could have lasted well into the 20th century. The slave holders already had land, and toward...
Dave Balmer 31168 wrote "And anyway, I wonder if the difference between slaveholding and wage-labour IS purely legalistic." I think you wonder wisely as Karl...
Hi Dave, The points are arguable. I was just using the arguments of Barrington Moore (an American historian) from his book 'The Social Origins of Dictatorship...
We are all slaves it does not make any differences, human being is not free, we are all slaves, the relationship master and slaves has not ended yet, only...
Dear Dave S I actually don't really have any particular fixed position on any of this. I was just throwing ideas around for discussion. I suspect and that is...
I took it as given that Laws are enacted, introduced and withdrawn, purely for the material benefit of the ruling class. There is as Karl pointed out in the...
... From: "balmer_dave" <balmer_dave@...> To: <WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:27 PM Subject: [WSM_Forum] Re: slavery By...
Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Oct 4, 2006 9:59 pm
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Dave Balmer 31178 , Brian 31136 Dave Balmer 31178 wrote: Possibly the dividing up of world capitalism into 1st and 3rd world fits in with this. If as a...
Perhaps the bearded one was thinking of the old fart Wilberforce who condemned slavery but accepted children working 14 hours a day in London garrets near...
Dave Balmer 31179; Malcom 31182, 31176; Julian 31162 Dave Balmer 31179 wrote: There is as Karl pointed out in the quote I gave important differences between...
I think that Hattie Beecher Stowe did have some rather naive attitudes to wage slavery and capitalism, suggesting that if the slaves were freed into wage...
Several years ago, the South of the USA, used to be called the Black Belt by the Leftist, and the nationalist support that idea, which was also propagated by...
Beecher Stowe went to visit Scotland during the Highland Clearances (when they evicted crofters onto the moors in the middle of winter and tore down their...
Extracts from "Sunny Memories Of Foreign Lands, Volume 1 (of 2), by Harriet Elizabeth (Beecher) Stowe" What is the {"Scots wha ha' wi' Wallace bled"} One...
Mal and Dave Balmer Mal had originally written: Perhaps the bearded one was thinking of the old fart Wilberforce who condemned slavery but accepted children...
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