REBECCA: "what if I said I don't believe in social or economic oppression, these dealing directly with social issues and yet I, as a personal decision, decide...
The question that your presented is related with social issues, which is making the decisions between the life of one human being or another, but it is within...
Byron; ... oppression, ... proposition to support your views is not consistent. Above all else a socialist must try to be consistent. The most difficult...
Hello Hud; Hud again, I'm going to have to carefully read in detail your posting, before I make any reply, but from a quick scan I can see that you've really...
Dear Hud I was going to sit this one out and have a rest but that was such an excellent post with so many good points I couldn't resist joining in. I haven't...
Assessing Muhammad (Margoliouth) "[T]he experiences of the Prophet's life, the constant bloodshed which marked his career at Medina, seem to have impressed his...
Rebecca: Your posts have been followed and most that answered your posited dilemma seem to agree with me. You changed the situation as the discussion...
Hi Hank, It seems to me that the Angel Gabriel is responsible for all this violence. As this is the Angel that passed on the message to Muhammed. Gabriel must...
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Also God speaks sometimes with George Bush and told him to invade Iraq, and Pat Robertson already spoke with god, and he gave him all the predictions for the...
Probably God will be talking with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, and will tell him to continue building socialism, that his son Jesus is a communist and a ...
Hello Hud; I've only had the time to go over about 1/2 of your posting, but wanted to send this out anyways.. I'm very much enjoying how these posts from you ...
Hello Hud; I really wanted to get this out tonight, but am pressed for time, so I hope it isn't written too quickly... Hud wrote" "So, it seems to me that...
Hello Marcos; Okay. I think I understand better now what you were getting at. You believe that there are social issues where society must make a collective...
Dear all, ... Not this Simon :-). The problem with the 'all acts are selfish' model is that it achieves its aim by defining any act as essentially selfish....
Hi Rebecca You asked me to expand on the fact/value issue. Conventional logic allows us, through a process of deductive reasoning to arrive securely at true...
Hi Simon That's an interesting approach to the problem, and it has the advantage of being succinct. But insofar as I understand what you are saying I'm not...
Rebecca: I am not sure what my "dislike" might be, but the original dilemma you proposed didn't explain how one got into such a situation, which of course...
... justified ... standard. ... Hi Rebecca Couldn't resist just adding a few comments about this. As I implied in my last post I don't think private moral...
Hello Hud; I don't mind your long windedness at all! Thanks for clarifying and sorry about chopping up your posting with this reply. Hud wrote: "Well, it is a...
Byron; I thought that you'd dislike my realization that a social objective moral standard are those that are upheld under any cirsumstance, in any given...
Hello Richard; I didn't mean to imply that every subjective moral decision we personally make is necessarily a 'selfish' decision. In fact I'm quite certain ...
Dear all, ... I was going further. I said - or certainly meant to say - that there are two steps: 1) all acts that have a desirable outcome are selfish and 2)...
That is an idea propagated by the ruling class in order to justify their own actions, in order to imply that the main goal of the human being is the private...
Hi Hud As things have quietened down a bit I thought I would try and throw another can of petrol on the fire to keep it going. You said; "However conventional...
I am new to this group, and very pleased to have found it. I am a socialist or so I believe. My background is a bachelor's degree in philosophy from UCLA and...
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Hi Doug and Welcome I am glad that you are pleased to have found us. I have never studied philosophy or law at university. I am a chemist that works in a food...
Dear all esp Doug, [Doug]"I am new to this group, and very pleased to have found it. I am a socialist or so I believe. My background is a bachelor's degree...
Brilliant! Thank you for the reply. I will reconsider my argument. Perhaps a capitalism-based system is needed only as a catalyst in implementing a pure...
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