Richard: Let me answer your 11/28/2007 post with the following [your points will be in quotes.]. 1) "There will therefore be no economic pressures to...
you need to trust the working class as marx did but centralism believed that people needed to be lead and directed. by the way what do people think about the...
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kettlebelly@... wrote: Man is, and always has been, a creative species, and some of his creativity has always gone into technology, even if you go back...
Julian Vein
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Dec 2, 2007 9:19 pm
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... De: Julian Vein julianvein@... ============ ==== Wouldn't it be truer to say that "some people are creative"? Isn't it likely that early...
... It was suggested to me that all people are creative, although some more than others. A demonstration of this is the fact that most people entering in their...
Emanuele D'Arrigo
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... LTVs. ... interest ... Hiya Peter I understand you don't want to get into a debate on this, but you raise so many points that about free access that come...
source: http://www.worldsocialism.org/articles/labour_vouchers.php Labour Vouchers What are labour vouchers? Labour vouchers (or labour cheques, labour...
... De: Daniel <daniel_towsey@...> Para: WSM_Forum@yahoogroups.com Enviado: viernes, 30 de noviembre, 2007 3:21:08 Asunto: [WSM_Forum] The Last Democracy...
... ================= Have there been similar investigations into non-identical twins (of the same sex, obviously) to see if the same thing applies? Julian...
Julian Vein
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... ==================== Don't agree. Seems to me we co-operate (or not as the case may be) because it's in our interest to do so. In other words, it's an ...
Julian Vein
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Dec 3, 2007 4:47 pm
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... ================= Forget a-f. When socialism is established, I'm going to print my own labour time vouchers! Julian Vein...
Julian Vein
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Dec 3, 2007 4:52 pm
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... ==================== Actually, the difference may well be the opposite. People involved in a pub brawl really hate each others guts, whilst in war many...
Julian Vein
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Dec 3, 2007 4:55 pm
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... ====================== In the last 21 years of my employment life, all my colleagues in the same grade, male and female, earned exactly the same, any...
Julian Vein
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Dec 3, 2007 5:01 pm
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I didn't actually say that; it was a quote from a link that I provided with it, although I did fail to include quotation marks. ...
Hi Neil McIntosh I suppose when it comes to the `shenanigans' of the latest scandal of members of the capitalist class `donating' monies to political parties,...
Richard: From the SPGB site on SIUs and vouchers we have the following in quotes and my answers: Point #1: "It is obvious that if everyone decided that they...
Hi Byron lol, you're in mischievous humour! I think the simple fact is SPGB members cannot really give an answer on revolution because we are forced to...
PS. I forgot to mention that Labour Vouchers were part of Marx's thinking, but rejected by Kropotkin and the SPGB. So party members shouldn't be too surprised...
... I understand you don't want to get into a debate on this, but you raise so many points about free access that come up time and again that I think it's...
Hi graham ''the voting procedure gives us a guage of class-conscious, ie. socialist minded, workers.'' ''The essential SPGB argument.. is for a majoritarian...
Dear all esp Julian, [Simon] There is a difference between individual violence and social violence - not just a quantitative one (more people participating)...
In reply to Peter Bryant's posting on the above, wageslave replies: Indeed, there was a massive debate on LTV's and Free Access at about the time you joined...
Hi all esp. Fraser Fraser: "A question I would just like to ask is, in establishing a socialist society how much importance do you put on people merely voting...
Graham: I don't disagree that we need a preponderance of the working class to have socialism. The question that nobody can answer: just what percentage this...
Graham said 'Don't vote for us unless you understand and agree with what we stand for. It is but a simple statement that the workers must free themselves...' I...
... I was trying to ask how the SPGB assesses the quality of support for ... of votes ... members ... Wageslave suggests: Technically, I am now an ex-SPGB...
Hi Fraser we can know the quality of support, as you put it, for SPGB ideas through the membership test we have at present. I am not sure how practical such a...
Hi Byron my original reply seems to have vanished into cyberspace. Grrrr, I hate when that happens! I'll try again. The percentage argument is a very old one...
Bonjour Graham, Would you look at this article and make any (informed) comment, since I understand from your postings that you are involved with agriculture?...
Hi Graham: As you note the percentage problem has many unknowns, but ultimately socialism must finally be enacted by the working class which means there will...