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peter.bryant51
Nov 2, 2011 5:20 am
David, you say: "I saw your post and that of others but decided to reply to other posts on the 3 posts a day rule. It is not clear to me why you think that...
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robbo203
Nov 2, 2011 7:19 am
... Sorry but this argument simply wont wash at all. The division of labour can conceivably be, and has been, advanced as an explanation for trade and the...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 2, 2011 4:23 pm
Robin, I can't even begin to respond to your message as it's filled with so many misrepresentations of what I'm saying that trying it will be such a waste of...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Nov 2, 2011 5:22 pm
Thank you very much for your reply, Peter. Â Yes, I put the SPGB case on taxation only once, in 1969, and got laughed off the building site in Coventry. I did...
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robbo203
Nov 2, 2011 7:48 pm
... They are not "misrepresentations" at all. I adhered strictly to your own wording and simply drew out the implications, uncomfortable though they may be...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 3, 2011 4:01 am
Robin, If you're going to reply to this, I'll be most interested about the excuse you can bring forth for the fact that the state has turned out to be a very...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Nov 3, 2011 5:11 am
Hi Robin, I just want to respond to your point about Mondragon. Maybe it has gotten too big. Maybe that is all. I think there is an optimum size for things...
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robbo203
Nov 3, 2011 8:25 am
... Expensive or not the state is indispensable to the capitalist class. Absolytely indispensable. The relationshop between the state and this class is a...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Nov 3, 2011 1:32 pm
Hello Tet, Â You might have noticed that Marxism is complete bosh, just as the great religions are. Odd how such false outlooks continue to exist but they...
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JAMES NORTH
jamesnorth27...
Nov 3, 2011 1:55 pm
Ok David, We can do a little experiment here. Let's all have a guess, without employing anyone, about what customers will buy over the next year. Then at...
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robbo203
Nov 3, 2011 3:52 pm
Looking at this latest offering from Dave McD, what can I say? Is there anything anyone can say? As I said before its like trying to argue with a manic...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 3, 2011 4:35 pm
Hi David, In my last email I asked Robin to make a case for his claim that the state is created by the capitalists to defend their interests, but is obvious he...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Nov 3, 2011 5:39 pm
Tetraedronico I think you did not understand what I wrote, or you are just making false statement, twisting the messages, lying, or you think that you are...
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robbo203
Nov 3, 2011 5:50 pm
... Not again, surely? Still more utter tosh from you. Is there no end in sight? You assert I claimed "the state is created by the capitalists to defend...
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robbo203
Nov 3, 2011 7:26 pm
Here's a nice little peice that our resident free marketeers might care to read and inwardly digest. Not that state regulation of the economy is any answer...
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whichfinder
Nov 3, 2011 9:18 pm
... This is a reply given to someone a few years back who asked about the poll tax and its impact on workers. "Actually, we don't deny that workers pay, in the...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Nov 3, 2011 9:26 pm
Hi Robin and Tetra, I would like to make a point or two. Capitalists require the state but the state does not require capitalists. The state can make do with...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Nov 3, 2011 9:26 pm
Hi Tetra, I just noticed a mistake you made. I quote " from the capitalists in terms of shifting the burden to the shareholders" Surely the shareholders are...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Nov 3, 2011 9:26 pm
A point not adequately covered is the other choice if not to work for a capitalist is to be self employed. Could everyone be self employed or for that matter...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 3, 2011 11:43 pm
Hi Bob, When I mentioned that the capitalist then shift the burden or taxation to the shareholders, customers and employees, I'm just making a counter-argument...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 4, 2011 12:44 am
Hi Marcos, First of all my point was not about senior citizens gambling problems, my point was more about the morality of taxation and why people receiving...
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Richard
hud955
Nov 4, 2011 1:37 am
Tetra you are obviously unused to the idea that when making macro judgements on large complex systems like human societies not every individual instance of a...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Nov 4, 2011 3:33 am
Tetraedronico: You are again jumping from the real situation. You did not talk about senior citizen, or social security on your first message, you were ...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Nov 4, 2011 3:42 am
Chile is one of the best examples of the failure of the so called free market economy, and the implementation of the economics principles of the School of...
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alan johnstone
alanjjohnstone
Nov 4, 2011 9:02 am
An ex-SPGBer, currently in AF answered this way. "Taxation issues are primarily a matter of debate between different sections of the ruling and capitalist...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 4, 2011 1:28 pm
Hi Marcos, Reagan, Bush's, Greenspan and every other statesman have been proponents of economic doctrines worse than mercantilism, where government regulates...
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peter.bryant51
Nov 4, 2011 2:39 pm
David, You say: "I am sceptical about what you say about the USA. If we have mass production and we increase productivity then where are the goods going if...
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Tetra
tetraedronico
Nov 4, 2011 3:24 pm
Hi Richard, I thought the definition according to the WSM/SPGB of capitalist and working class was revolving around their ownership relationship to the means...
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robbo203
Nov 4, 2011 4:35 pm
... Tet There is just no stopping you, is there? No way of abating the incessant flow of nonsense you seem to generate. Just as you grossly misprepresentewd...
