Dear all, Once again, oh God. This is why I swore off the Forum - the late night suction effect of 'someone is wrong on the internet'. I am saying that your...
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Paul Bennett
paul6bennett
Jan 3, 2012 7:38 pm
One of the cars they sell costs £136,000, so clearly some people are doing very well in the recession ...
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alan johnstone
alanjjohnstone
Jan 4, 2012 2:30 am
Further to BillM's reference to the Incas i came across this article on them describing a statist class society without money or markets! ...
Wishful thinking will not bring socialism to us, we will have to build it. Cheers, Bob *** I was one of the supporters of women's lib in the 70s, marching on...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Jan 4, 2012 7:12 am
"I believe socialism will radically transform our outlook on life and that what we call the "economic activity" of cooperating with one another in production...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Jan 4, 2012 7:12 am
Simon, There is a problem. If those of faith believe absolutely that there is another life after this one and decide the afterlife is more important then how...
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Bill
reddeathy
Jan 4, 2012 9:38 am
Lo All, another useful reference I've just come across: 'Commodity exchange and markets in the Inca state: recent archaeological evidence' / Timothy Earle. in...
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Bill
reddeathy
Jan 4, 2012 12:53 pm
http://tinyurl.com/bokuq3m '[a banker] astonishing confession: "At one major investment bank for which I worked, we used psychometric testing to recruit social...
... Simon Once again, I am sorry to say, you are talking a load of tripe. Did you even bother to read my post properly or did you just skim through it in...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Jan 5, 2012 6:27 am
I think I'll go with Simon on this one, but I wish Marx was more accessible. Damn him. Cheers, Bob...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Jan 5, 2012 6:34 am
 My reply follows the case made by some SPGBer. ... Slavery and slavery Slave trade| British Empire| wage slavery This month low-key ceremonies are taking...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Jan 5, 2012 6:35 am
"So the Inca did engage in trade, but only with outsiders - not among themselves. The secret of the Inca's great wealth may have been their unusual tax system....
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Paul Bennett
paul6bennett
Jan 5, 2012 2:03 pm
'Workers gave bosses nearly two billion hours of unpaid overtime last year' ...
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peter.bryant51
Jan 5, 2012 2:09 pm
Hi All (esp. Robin and Simon) Gerry Cohen in his book "Why Not Socialism?" had some useful things to say about reciprocity in a socialist society which seem to...
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simon wigley
simonwigleyuk
Jan 5, 2012 3:44 pm
Dear all esp Robin, All right, I'll continue to bite. This is long because I'm replying to Robin's post in full, but I hope it's clear enough and worth the...
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ALB
alb1342
Jan 5, 2012 4:55 pm
Sounds like a book that will contain facts and figures to back up our case that a world of abundance is possible, even if the authors seem to think that this...
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Julian Vein
julianvein@...
Jan 5, 2012 5:11 pm
... =========== And every leap year, salaried staff lose a day's pay compared with weekly paid workers! Julian Vein...
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Dave Chesham
whichfinder
Jan 5, 2012 11:59 pm
Hi Everyone, You may be interested in visiting our new website. Click on the link below and by using the navigation toolbar which appears at the top of the ...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Jan 6, 2012 12:43 am
Were they renting the means of production and they exceeded the tenant agreement ? It is not the first time that this situation has taken place. The...
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Bill
reddeathy
Jan 6, 2012 9:39 am
Lo All, ... I'd suggest work as an end in itself. Anthropologists talk of the move from status to contract. In earlier societies, there was no separate...
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robbo203
Jan 6, 2012 10:00 am
... The vocabulary I am using is that of conventional anthropology. Google generalised recipcrity and you will see for yourself it means something very...
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simon wigley
simonwigleyuk
Jan 6, 2012 11:30 am
Dear all esp Peter, Gerry Cohen tried to turn Marxism into Analytical Philosophy, and not dialectical. He thus completely misread the whole thing. He also, I...
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Ken Ellis
kenellis2020
Jan 6, 2012 12:51 pm
... Aye, aye, cap'n, good observation. The masses will never enjoy abundance for as long as America's Repuglican Party values seem attractive enough to attract...
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Citizens of the World
citizensofth...
Jan 6, 2012 6:17 pm
Thanks Bill for that one. Nice thinking -- although it is someone else's. [That's where ideas come from.] ... _____________ "Every politician, every member...
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robbo203
Jan 6, 2012 7:29 pm
... For the umpteenth Simon - generalised reciprocity is NOT about the "equal exchange of values". I seem to be saying this till Im blue in the face but still...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Jan 6, 2012 11:00 pm
The Incas society did not have the objective conditions in order to establish a socialist society. When the society developed they had slaves among themselves...
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Marcos
mcolome1
Jan 6, 2012 11:22 pm
When the Spaniards arrived there was slavery among the Incas, the Aztecs and the Mayas, and they used the same economical bases and class relationship in order...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Jan 7, 2012 6:49 am
I will buy a copy. It's about time such a book came out. *** Who else here will buy and read it? Cheers, Bob...
