... Good observation. Some time after the anarchists tossed the S-Ds out of the American SLP in their 1889 'revolution in a socialist tea-pot', as Engels...
49006
Scot Yancey
conclavian
Apr 2, 2012 7:18 am
Since we are already on the subject of labour - although off the subject of labout theory of value - what sorts of labour do you think could be automated and...
49007
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 2, 2012 7:18 am
"1. Reduction of the hours of labor in proportion to the progress of production." Taking away some of the burden of long working hours would mean freedom of...
49008
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 2, 2012 11:31 pm
One of the reason why the workers should make education a priority in life. How the job will be done really depend on how the workers will apply his/her skills...
49009
mcolome1@...
mcolome1
Apr 3, 2012 1:46 am
Do you mean political and socialist education ? Even peoples with a doctorate degree must liberate themselves from the oppression and exploitation of...
49010
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 3, 2012 11:51 am
"Capitalists also need slaves with academic knowledges" And with that fact in mind it is easier now to come to conclusion of why the workers(slaves) without...
49011
Paul Bennett
paul6bennett
Apr 3, 2012 12:51 pm
... I'm not sure if you're saying that workers establishing our own educational institutions is a way to get rid of capitalism. In any case, I'd say that ...
49012
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 3, 2012 1:14 pm
Imagine a triangular temple, a high triangular platform supported by three tall but already worn out pillars located at each corner of the platform, all the...
49013
Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 3, 2012 11:41 pm
Marcos, The problem with political and socialist education without a socialised structure for the workers to make a living prior to full socialism is pretty...
49014
Dave Chesham
whichfinder
Apr 4, 2012 6:17 am
At Head Office starting with the Annual Conference this Friday and Saturday:- ...
49015
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 4, 2012 11:49 am
Dear Bob, I couldn't believe that workers knowledge is to be confined only on political and socialist(as if they don't know anything about it) education, and...
49016
jonathanchambers63
jonathancham...
Apr 5, 2012 12:14 am
... Bob, I don't know how mistaken it's possible for one man to be, but you are really pushing the boat out here. 'More than 100 years of failure'? I don't...
49017
whichfinder
Apr 5, 2012 7:07 am
... What I do know is that, after more than three decades of putting the case for socialism, it's easier to argue the case now than ever before. No longer do...
49018
David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Apr 5, 2012 10:00 am
If you were to get a majority then you would see that your ideas did not work. However, the 1100, or so, in the UK of the 1940s looks to be the all time acme...
49019
Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 5, 2012 6:21 pm
OK, so the two of you are quite satisfied with our progress towards socialism, but I am not. We have all failed, so far, to convince the majority that the...
49020
People's Socialis...
conclavian
Apr 5, 2012 6:21 pm
Jonathan: Was it really necessary to be so negative in your post? I think you could have made your point without it and garnered more respect in the process. ...
49021
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 6, 2012 12:16 pm
And there was no Capitalist Party during those times that say we are formally establishing the capitalist system. ... socialism, but I am not. We have all...
49022
mcolome1@...
mcolome1
Apr 6, 2012 1:11 pm
Bob: Labor is already socialized, everything that is produced in this society is produced socially by the working class. Can you become a surgeon without...
49023
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 7, 2012 2:36 am
There is one thing that we should all know about the working class, that they do not want anybody to become a burden to them. So what is it that we should do...
49024
jonathanchambers63
jonathancham...
Apr 7, 2012 5:22 am
... Ah! McDonagh! Nice to see that you're still pontificating on things that you cannot possibly know. That was always your strong suit....
49025
Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 7, 2012 5:22 am
Jonathan, You seem not to understand what reformism means. It means bringing about change within the present system without changing the system itself. It...
49026
Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 7, 2012 5:31 am
Marcos, Labour is not socialised for itself, only for production of capitalist owned goods. True socialised labour is not possible as mere employees of...
49027
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 8, 2012 3:04 am
Revolution from what I understand is something unstoppable, for example if an idea is brought out and quickly spread and accepted by the masses, we call the...
49028
Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 8, 2012 3:14 am
Bob, There is a Yahoo!Groups called RevolutionaryCooperatives. ... owned goods. True socialised labour is not possible as mere employees of capitalists. Only...
49029
Ken Ellis
kenellis2020
Apr 8, 2012 3:48 pm
More reasons why exponential advances in technology are far more significant to social progress than the weary efforts of sectarian groups to promote ...
49030
Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 9, 2012 4:39 am
Thank you Sarda, I didn't know about that group and have applied for membership. I recognise some of the names of contributors, like Bill Ellis. Once...
49031
jonathanchambers63
jonathancham...
Apr 9, 2012 4:40 am
... D'you know, Bob, you really are a funny man. Ill-informed, breathtakingly arrogant and fundamentally wrong-headed, but downright hilarious nonetheless....
49032
jonathanchambers63
jonathancham...
Apr 9, 2012 4:42 am
... I don't think you fully understand the Socialist Party case, even if you are a member. I think that is true of a fair percentage of members as well as...
49033
jonathanchambers63
jonathancham...
Apr 9, 2012 4:43 am
... More reasons? Well, I missed the previous reasons, so I can only go on what you've posted here...But first of all, who are you calling weary? That's...
49034
Mike
spgbschool
Apr 9, 2012 9:39 am
Here's the lineup for Summer School, being held over the long weekend 6th - 8th July in Birmingham: The Occupy Movement: Ian Barker (Occupy Norwich) & Stair...
