Robin, You said: "Secondly, Co-ops never have been, and never will be, anything more than marginal to the mainstream capitalist economy precisely because of...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 24, 2012 4:40 am
Hi Sarda, I am trying not to be a burden, I am pretty independent (if also interdependent as we all are), I am certainly striving for equality, am very...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Apr 24, 2012 8:08 am
Of course we know the future. All we now soundly know will still be sound in the future. That is not to deny that we have some delusions in science, where...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Apr 24, 2012 8:58 am
Getting ideas over to the public does not cost much money. If the SPGB case was as powerful as we thought it was in the 1960s we would have converted the...
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alan johnstone
alanjjohnstone
Apr 24, 2012 10:49 am
All a failure back then? I can only speak for Edinburgh branch but we were perhaps the foremost political organisation in the city and our presence pervaded...
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Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 24, 2012 1:07 pm
Hi Bob, That's how a true working class should always speak, frank and straightforward. This is how the working class is showing "order" to society and not...
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Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 24, 2012 1:26 pm
Some religions grow more faster. ... what we think we know is where we truly do not know at all. We may discover a few of them in the future, but maybe never...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 24, 2012 7:01 pm
Thanks Sarda, Still the same message on Revolutionary Cooperatives "Your membership is awaiting approval by the group owner" I wonder if it could be speeded...
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robbo203
Apr 25, 2012 6:00 am
... Bob In the first place it was not a "rant". It was a carefully considered critique and I can't helping noticing that you failed to deal with the criticism...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Apr 25, 2012 11:29 am
It did not seem like it at the time, but note that we had nowhere near the 1100 there was in the SPGB of the 1940s. In the 1960s, it was about 700 members...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 25, 2012 8:23 pm
Robin, You are still thinking my version (if I might put it that way) of what I call the "Flexi" co-op is the standard old co-op that we all know about. It...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 26, 2012 3:41 am
Robin, I have come to realise that you are using Rosa Luxemburg's arguments against my somewhat Eduard Bernstein ideas. I realised this after reading a file...
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robbo203
Apr 26, 2012 8:35 am
... OK lets look at this "Flexi" co-op - or revolutionary co-op - idea of yours, then. But before doing so and to save wasting time on having to go over old...
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ALB
alb1342
Apr 26, 2012 4:09 pm
In Britain the Socialist Party is contesting 2 seats in the Greater London Assembly elections on 3 May. The law requires the Returning Officer to inform all...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 27, 2012 3:21 am
OK lets look at this "Flexi" co-op - or revolutionary co-op - idea of yours, then. But before doing so and to save wasting time on having to go over old ground...
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David McDonagh
mcdonagh_d
Apr 27, 2012 8:35 am
Here is a good book on our biased, erring minds and our dire need to spot, and thus to eliminate, our errors. It might even become a classic. Â Â The Myth of...
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alan johnstone
alanjjohnstone
Apr 28, 2012 7:16 am
Robin previously suggested that Mondragon co-operative was perhaps the largest but wasn't sure yet actually what about the financial co-ops. Despite its name,...
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Citizens of the World
citizensofth...
Apr 28, 2012 6:40 pm
When the first "Bobby Seale" of the politically-incarcerated Palestinian prisoners dies, what will be the social reaction? Many of the towns and villages in...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 29, 2012 6:41 am
Alan, If you were to read Kirkpatrick sale's book Human Scale, you would see that size matters. Big co-ops are not as good as smaller, decentralised co-ops in...
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simon1966@...
greenscot66
Apr 29, 2012 6:42 am
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012, at 07:02, alan johnstone wrote: Robin previously suggested that Mondragon co-operative was perhaps the largest but wasn't sure yet...
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Citizens of the World
citizensofth...
Apr 29, 2012 2:00 pm
Do you call that feel-good socialism, one dividend at a time? In Quebec the largest financial service is called la Caisse Populaire, with its origin in the ...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 30, 2012 4:04 am
I just clicked the chat link and found I was the only one there. Are members aware of the yahoo chat facility? I think you need to activate yahoo messenger...
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simon1966@...
greenscot66
Apr 30, 2012 4:06 am
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012, at 10:00, Citizens of the World wrote: Do you call that feel-good socialism, one dividend at a time? In Quebec the largest financial...
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Bob Howes (vegan)
robertcircle1
Apr 30, 2012 4:06 am
Trevor, How do you think socialism will come about? Or do you not think it will come about at all? I have a feeling that Marxist socialists generally do not...
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Paul Bennett
paul6bennett
Apr 30, 2012 8:20 am
... Utter nonsense to suggest that the UK is being destroyed (whatever that means) by a Marxist agenda (whatever that means). Paul Bennett (WSM member) ...
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Dave Chesham
whichfinder
Apr 30, 2012 8:45 am
... That should tell you something but doubt that it will.............. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
Apr 30, 2012 2:22 pm
Socialism is just the opposite of Capitalism, the opposite of the capitalist class is the working class, the opposite of the Capitalist society is the Workers...
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Dave Chesham
whichfinder
Apr 30, 2012 3:41 pm
... Wrong! Socialism will be a classless society. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Sarda Karaniwan
karaniwans
May 1, 2012 12:17 pm
"Wrong! Socialism will be a classless society." Great! Now all you need to do is convince Simon about that, and all the Simons of GB, and of Europe, and of the...
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Fraser Anderson
fanderson_61
May 1, 2012 1:18 pm
Hi Sarda Surely the aim of a socialism is to dissolve this power relationship of worker and capitalist, because you can't be a worker or a member of the...
