Hello:  I'm running SeaMonkey 1.9 (PMW) under eCS1.2mr without problems unless I
click on an email in the list in an attempt to read one causing  the email app,
as well as any open browser windows instantaneously crash.  My previous email
was Mozilla 1.7.11 (unoff.).  I read the information in MozillaZine about
migrating profiles, one reason that I chose 1.9 over 2.0, and followed their
recommendations with only rare grains of salt.  I have edited prefs.js to ensure
that all references to directories are correct and also deleted some of the msf
files and allowed Seamonkey to rebuild them, all to no avail.  I attempted to
use the migration utility in SeaMonkey.  It saw only Netscape email files from
the initial selection window, leading to an empty menu in the second one, a dead
end.  I also cleaned up my ini files with UniMaint prior to the transition,
using additional due diligence to leave only entries for mozilla_home and
moz_plug config.sys references.

These are important email archives that I want both to preserve and to be able
to continue to have access to.  I will soon be moving all to a new machine
running rc6a (or GA, if available and equally stable) and will no longer have to
continue with my current 1.2mr installation that has been migrated several
times, acquiring quirks along the way, but need ongoing access until I have
accomplished the move.

And, I hate webmail!

Any suggestions?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:51:52 -0800, Tom Brown wrote:

>I reported earlier on crashes with SM 1.1.18 and 2.0. I have now totally
>nuked 1.1.18. I have been able to get my email working under 2.0 except
>for the filters that I had set migrated from 1.1.18.
>
>I now have a new problem. SM 2.0 crashes in two ways:
>
>1) SM hangs. No CPU time is being used, but I can't do anything except
>move the mouse pointer around the screen. I have to re-boot via C-A-D.

Does the drive light come on? How long have you waited for Seamonkey to
come to life?

>
>2) SM just goes away. Sometimes it leaves  an entry in POPUPLOG.OS2, but
>may time it does not. Two examples:
>
>
>12-17-2009  16:29:35  SYS3175  PID 0079  TID 0001  Slot 0091
>E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
>c0000005
>1c8a6b58
>P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=01228006  EBX=8000150b  ECX=00010079  EDX=13e8af00
>ESI=5dbf4b70  EDI=14d5126c
>DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:1e99268d  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:0011ff4c  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
>EBP=00000000  FLG=00250206
>
>GKLAYOUT.DLL 0001:00046b58
>

This could be a bad font, need to have a map file to trace the address,
see below.

>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>12-20-2009  18:48:25  SYS3175  PID 0094  TID 0001  Slot 00b6
>E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
>c0000005
>1e99268d
>P1=00000001  P2=01228006  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=01228006  EBX=8000150b  ECX=00010094  EDX=13e8af00
>ESI=5dc84e90  EDI=14e7126c
>DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:1e99268d  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:0011ff4c  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
>EBP=00000000  FLG=00050206
>
>PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0016268d
>
>Is there a log file or debug mode that I can use to try to figure out
>what is happening?

Start Seamonkey like so,
Seamonkey 2>&1> seamonkey.log

>
>CONFIG.SYS excerpt:
>SET MOZILLA_HOME=E:\
>SET MOZILLA_USE_EXTENDED_FT2LIB=T

Seamonkey v2 doesn't use this and might be causing some problems. If
nothing else uses the Innotek font engine you might want to uninstall
it or else edit the registry to remove Seamonkey from the apps that use
it

>SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\PLUGINS
>SET MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1
>
>I am running eCS 2.0 rc6a. I am NOT using RUN! or a script, just
>executing seamonkey.exe from a program object.
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I'll upload Seamonkey 2.0.1 to netlabs tonight. This is mostly a
(non-OS/2) bugfix release. If you get the same crashes in gtklayout we
can look up the crashing function
Dave
ps Firefox 3.5.6 is released here,
ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/incoming/mozilla/firefox-3.5.6.en-us.os2.gcc441.zi
p if anyone wants it. Mostly a bugfix release with a couple of OS/2
fixes
With any luck Thunderbird v3.0 and Seamonkey v2.0.1 will be available
there tomorrow

I reported earlier on crashes with SM 1.1.18 and 2.0. I have now totally
nuked 1.1.18. I have been able to get my email working under 2.0 except
for the filters that I had set migrated from 1.1.18.

I now have a new problem. SM 2.0 crashes in two ways:

1) SM hangs. No CPU time is being used, but I can't do anything except
move the mouse pointer around the screen. I have to re-boot via C-A-D.

2) SM just goes away. Sometimes it leaves  an entry in POPUPLOG.OS2, but
may time it does not. Two examples:


12-17-2009  16:29:35  SYS3175  PID 0079  TID 0001  Slot 0091
E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0000005
1c8a6b58
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=01228006  EBX=8000150b  ECX=00010079  EDX=13e8af00
ESI=5dbf4b70  EDI=14d5126c
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e99268d  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011ff4c  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=00000000  FLG=00250206

GKLAYOUT.DLL 0001:00046b58

------------------------------------------------------------

12-20-2009  18:48:25  SYS3175  PID 0094  TID 0001  Slot 00b6
E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0000005
1e99268d
P1=00000001  P2=01228006  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=01228006  EBX=8000150b  ECX=00010094  EDX=13e8af00
ESI=5dc84e90  EDI=14e7126c
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e99268d  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011ff4c  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=00000000  FLG=00050206

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0016268d

Is there a log file or debug mode that I can use to try to figure out
what is happening?

CONFIG.SYS excerpt:
SET MOZILLA_HOME=E:\
SET MOZILLA_USE_EXTENDED_FT2LIB=T
SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\PLUGINS
SET MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1

I am running eCS 2.0 rc6a. I am NOT using RUN! or a script, just
executing seamonkey.exe from a program object.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
--
Tom Brown, Catherder
thomabrown at gmail dot com
Member SCOUG, V.O.I.C.E., SDAA, & SDFWA

On 2009/12/16 09:38 (GMT-0800) Tom Brown composed:

> Fixed my problem, mostly, by dumping SM 1.1.18 and Thunderbird, replaced
> with SM 2.0. The browser no longer crashes, hangs or does some other
> weird stuff that I didn't mention in my original post.

> I AM having problems with email, however. At first, I got this quite
> often, but now, not so much. A popup error message box says:

> There was an error truncating the inbox after filtering a message to
> folder 'XXXXXX'. You may need to shutdown SeaMonkey and delete INBOX.msf.

Keyword: "filtering".

> At first, I deleted INBOX.MSF, but it did not seem to make a difference.
> I deleted ALL  *.msf, and it seems to have improved. I still get the
> message occasionally.

> Any pointers on this one?

Less often now because you're caught up on mail fetch. Happened that way here
too. I fixed it here by discarding msgFilterRules.dat imported from SM1 and
building all new filters. Something about at least one imported filter was
obviously a problem, but I didn't know any practical way to pin down which one.

But, I'm back to using SM1, as SM2 mail is much too sluggish on my many mail
folders and accounts, and it, including CZ, uses nearly twice the RAM as SM1,
running me out of shared RAM in less than 4 days of uptime, while I need at
least 6 days between restarts. More details in my thread in
news:mozilla.dev.ports.os2.
--
"   We have no government armed with power capable of
contending with human passions unbridled by morality and
religion."                  John Adams, 2nd US President

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Fixed my problem, mostly, by dumping SM 1.1.18 and Thunderbird, replaced
with SM 2.0. The browser no longer crashes, hangs or does some other
weird stuff that I didn't mention in my original post.

I AM having problems with email, however. At first, I got this quite
often, but now, not so much. A popup error message box says:

There was an error truncating the inbox after filtering a message to
folder 'XXXXXX'. You may need to shutdown SeaMonkey and delete INBOX.msf.

At first, I deleted INBOX.MSF, but it did not seem to make a difference.
I deleted ALL  *.msf, and it seems to have improved. I still get the
message occasionally.

Any pointers on this one?

Bear with me! I'm obviously still learning about SM...

Thanks!

--
Tom Brown, Catherder
thomabrown at gmail dot com
Member SCOUG, V.O.I.C.E., SDAA, & SDFWA

On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:46:25 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

>> IMHO, you only need entries like these:
>
>> SET MOZ_BIN=C:\SeaMonkey
>
>Must be interesting for those who also use FF and/or TB.

Not really as it doesn't do anything, at least I can't find it in the
source
Dave

>> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\MOZILLA\FIREFOX\PLUGINS
>
> And do you copy each time the new file npnulos2.dll to that directory?

That is not necessary.  The version-specific file can be found in the
correct place without copying or moving it.

> 12-03-2009  13:05:29  SYS2070  PID 007a  TID 0001  Slot 00c0
> E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE

These sorts of errors suggest that you are trying to run 1.1.x and 2.0.x
at the same time, without using Run!L or LIBPATHSTRICT.  Other things to
check for are listed on the Warpzilla Tips page.

> 12-06-2009  22:46:43  SYS3170  PID 00ac  TID 0001  Slot 00b6
> E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
> DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000e3e1

These sorts of crashes on exit are frequently caused by the Flash plugin,
in my experience.

On 2009/12/08 10:42 (GMT+0100) Kris Steenhaut composed:

> Tom Brown ha scritto:

>> SeaMonkey is very unstable under both 1.1.18 and 2.0 on one of my systems. I
don't

> SeaMonkey 118 works excellent here with a brand of eCS2 (something RC7)

I'm on an older eCS, 1.1 with SP4 plus selected. additional fixes. 1.1.18 has
been very good, a problem only with uptime of more than about 6 days. The
first day I tried 2.0 I only got about 10 hours uptime before it crashed.
This 2.0 session is currently at 10.5 hours, but half that was while I was
sleeping.

>> SET MOZILLA_HOME=E:\

> Rather dumb imho. Why not something specific and easy retracable such as
> e:\Internet\users ?

My MOZILLA_HOME has been the root DIR of my data partition about 8 years,
with Mozilla stuff in of all the silly places, the \Mozilla DIR.

>> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\MOZILLA\FIREFOX\PLUGINS

> And do you copy each time the new file npnulos2.dll to that directory?

No, I leave it empty. No plugins means fewer browser crashes.

> Thus same remark, why not use an easy retracable common directory for
> all mozilla brands, such as \Internet\Plugins. It suffices for instance
> to install Flash10 from there to have it all right for everything in one go.

> IMHO, you only need entries like these:

> SET MOZ_BIN=C:\SeaMonkey

Must be interesting for those who also use FF and/or TB.

> So, or stick to SM118 if you want to have it safe or to SM2.00 if you
> want to fight against fate.

Probably true. :-(
--
"   We have no government armed with power capable of
contending with human passions unbridled by morality and
religion."                  John Adams, 2nd US President

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Tom Brown ha scritto:
> SeaMonkey is very unstable under both 1.1.18 and 2.0 on one of my systems. I
don't
>
SeaMonkey 118 works excellent here with a brand of eCS2 (something RC7)
> SET MOZILLA_HOME=E:\
>
Rather dumb imho. Why not something specific and easy retracable such as
e:\Internet\users ?

> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\MOZILLA\FIREFOX\PLUGINS
>
>
And do you copy each time the new file npnulos2.dll to that directory?

Thus same remark, why not use an easy retracable common directory for
all mozilla brands, such as \Internet\Plugins. It suffices for instance
to install Flash10 from there to have it all right for everything in one go.

IMHO, you only need entries like these:

SET MOZ_BIN=C:\SeaMonkey
SET Mozilla_home=C:\Internet\Gebruikers
SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=C:\Internet\Instekers
SET NSPR_OS2_NO_ HIRES_TIMER=1


And if you would be so clever to have only one version of SeaMonkey
around you even wouldn't need the first entry.

Incidentally, probes of any SeaMonkey 2.00 caused nothing but trouble
here, and on top of that there are no means to print (except for the not
so handy work around).

So, or stick to SM118 if you want to have it safe or to SM2.00 if you
want to fight against fate.


--
Groeten uit Gent,

    Kris

SeaMonkey is very unstable under both 1.1.18 and 2.0 on one of my systems. I
don't
know whether this is a bug or a problem with my system. Crashes from both
versions
produce entries in popuplog.os2. I am running eCS 2.0 rc6a.

I need some direction as to where to start the debugging process.

Thanks!

Looking at the popuplog.os2 fragment below, the entries from
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE  are SeaMonkey 1.1.18
while the ones from
E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE are SeaMonkey 2.0

I also find that SM 2.0 remains in memory after I close it on occasion. I have
to
reboot to continue online.

I have the following in config.sys:

SET MOZILLA_HOME=E:\
SET MOZILLA_USE_EXTENDED_FT2LIB=T
SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=E:\MOZILLA\FIREFOX\PLUGINS
SET MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1

Could some of thee above statements be causing my problems?

POPUPLOG.OS2 fragment:

------------------------------------------------------------

12-03-2009  13:05:29  SYS2070  PID 007a  TID 0001  Slot 00c0
E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
XUL->XPCOMCOR.__ZN19nsACString_internalC2EPcjj
127
------------------------------------------------------------

12-03-2009  13:05:29  SYS2070  PID 007a  TID 0001  Slot 00c0
E:\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
XUL->XPCOMCOR.__ZN19nsACString_internalC2EPcjj
127
------------------------------------------------------------

12-06-2009  11:39:24  SYS2070  PID 0086  TID 0001  Slot 00b7
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
SEAMONKEY->XPCOMCOR.1914
182
------------------------------------------------------------

12-06-2009  22:46:43  SYS3170  PID 00ac  TID 0001  Slot 00b6
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0010001
1ffde3e1
EAX=00000004  EBX=5dd1cc80  ECX=00000000  EDX=001e0122
ESI=5dd1ce00  EDI=5dd1cc80
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e933cd9  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011fef4  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=0011fef4  FLG=00250246

DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000e3e1

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-2009  09:06:54  SYS3171  PID 0029  TID 0001  Slot 0017
J:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
c0000005
1e93204c
P1=00000002  P2=0003fffc  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=80000001  EBX=00000000  ECX=00010029  EDX=13e8af20
ESI=1b30b810  EDI=1b30ef80
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e93204c  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00040000  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=00040094  FLG=00010206

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0010204c

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-2009  16:37:32  SYS3175  PID 0064  TID 0001  Slot 00aa
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0000005
1f94a896
P1=00000002  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000000  ECX=00000468  EDX=000011a0
ESI=016ddad4  EDI=00000000
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1f94a896  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011cca4  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=0011ccbc  FLG=00010246

PMCTLS.DLL 0002:000ba896

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-2009  16:37:32  SYS3170  PID 0064  TID 0001  Slot 00aa
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0010001
1ffc9e7d
EAX=02a2817a  EBX=00000001  ECX=0020001f  EDX=01800174
ESI=00000000  EDI=8000150b
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e9926b6  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011ff4c  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=0000f4b7  FLG=00010202

DOSCALL1.DLL 0002:00009e7d

------------------------------------------------------------

12-07-2009  17:19:42  SYS3175  PID 006e  TID 0001  Slot 00b6
E:\MOZILLA\SEAMONKEY\SEAMONKEY.EXE
c0000005
1e933cd9
P1=00000001  P2=001e012a  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000004  EBX=5dbf7160  ECX=00000000  EDX=001e0122
ESI=5dbf72e0  EDI=5dbf7160
DS=0053  DSACC=f0f3  DSLIM=ffffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=f0f3  ESLIM=ffffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1e933cd9  CSACC=f0df  CSLIM=ffffffff
SS:ESP=0053:0011fef4  SSACC=f0f3  SSLIM=ffffffff
EBP=0011fef4  FLG=00010246

PMMERGE.DLL 0004:00103cd9

--
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thomabrown at gmail dot com
Member SCOUG, V.O.I.C.E., SDAA, & SDFWA

On 11/23/09 09:02 am, Stuart Updike wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> When I try to go to Facebook, I get a dialog that says, "You have chosen
> to open: application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml from http://m.facebook.com" and
> asks what to open it with or if I want to save it.
>
> Is there a fix?
>

There were similar complaints on the newsgroup. See
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.ports.os2/browse_thread/thread/5baebd\
295643ead8/f8bbe26f8779866e?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=facebook+wierdness+os2#
I'd also try clearing your cache
Dave

Hello all,

When I try to go to Facebook, I get a dialog that says, "You have chosen
to open: application/vnd.wap.xhtml+xml from http://m.facebook.com" and
asks what to open it with or if I want to save it.

Is there a fix?

Thanks,

Stu Updike

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:02:55 -0800 (PST), Steve Wendt wrote:

>>>I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and trying to add Lucide to handle .PDF content.
>>>
>>>According to the Help text, there should be a list of applications in the
right
>>>hand pane, but it is blank. right and left clicking does nothing..
>>
>>Do you have http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=rws08dll installed?
>
>I believe that is irrelevant; my list is empty too.

Thing is that with rws08 installed then clicking a pdf should
automatically use whatever the WPS is configured to use, at least it
does here. Also at that time I do get a choice that includes other and
a box to enter the path to what ever you want to use.
Dave

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:02:55 -0800 (PST), Steve Wendt wrote:

>>>I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and trying to add Lucide to handle .PDF content.
>>>
>>>According to the Help text, there should be a list of applications in the
right
>>>hand pane, but it is blank. right and left clicking does nothing..
>>
>>Do you have http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=rws08dll installed?
>
>I believe that is irrelevant; my list is empty too.
>
>As far as not being able to add items; "the SeaMonkey 2 Helper Applications
panel
>does not allow you to add a new file type, as you were able to do in SeaMonkey
1.x"
>
>http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions#File_handling_in_Fire\
fox_3_and_SeaMonkey_2
>
>Seamonkey inherited the same limitations as Firefox in this area, and hasn't
fixed
>them yet.  It may be addressed for version 2.1.
>

I thought the empty page had been fixed quite a while ago.
You are right, there doesn't seem to be a way to add helper
applications. 2.1a1pre just has a lot more in the list then a 2 month
old build here.
The applications in the list can be changed and that includes PDF in
2.1a1pre
Dave

>>I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and trying to add Lucide to handle .PDF content.
>>
>>According to the Help text, there should be a list of applications in the
right
>>hand pane, but it is blank. right and left clicking does nothing..
>
>Do you have http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=rws08dll installed?

I believe that is irrelevant; my list is empty too.

As far as not being able to add items; "the SeaMonkey 2 Helper Applications
panel
does not allow you to add a new file type, as you were able to do in SeaMonkey
1.x"

http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions#File_handling_in_Firef\
ox_3_and_SeaMonkey_2

Seamonkey inherited the same limitations as Firefox in this area, and hasn't
fixed
them yet.  It may be addressed for version 2.1.


-----------
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly,
while bad people will find a way around the laws."
      - Plato (427-347 B.C.)

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:23:33 -0800, Tom Brown wrote:

>I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and trying to add Lucide to handle .PDF content.
>
>I go to Edit > Preferences > Browser > Helper Applications
>
>According to the Help text, there should be a list of applications in the right
hand
>pane, but it is blank. right and left clicking does nothing..
>
>What am I missing?
>

Do you have http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=rws08dll installed?

Dave

I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and trying to add Lucide to handle .PDF content.

I go to Edit > Preferences > Browser > Helper Applications

According to the Help text, there should be a list of applications in the right
hand
pane, but it is blank. right and left clicking does nothing..

What am I missing?

Thanks!
--
Tom Brown, Catherder
thomabrown at gmail dot com
Member SCOUG, V.O.I.C.E., SDAA, & SDFWA

On 2009_11_13 07:21, Ray Davison wrote:
> Jim Hughes wrote:
>
>
>> I'm concerned about conflicts and if there is anything else I would need
>> to do, so I would appreciate comment from the collective wisdom. TIA
>>
>
> I have been sharing profiles between OS/2-eCS and Win for several years.
>   It is trivial and safe.
>
> First, I have profiles, mail/news and bookmarks in separate trees on a
> data data drive.  It is FAT32 and works fine.  The apps are on another
> FAT32 drive.
>
> All OS/2 needs is:
> SET MOZILLA_HOME=X:\MOZPROFILES
> SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=X:\MOZPROFILES\PLUGINS
>
> And the LIB DLLs in OS2/DLL
>
> And a run object with -Profilemanager as a parameter.
>
> Create the profiles under OS/2-eCS and point to bookmarks and mail/news,
> cache, bookmarks - I still use bookmark.htm; 8.3 that started life in NS.
>
Me too, if memory serves mine started with NS Communicator3 and grew
from there through the various flavours of NS/Mozilla , machines  and
opsys's (win3.0 ---> winXP and os2 warp 3(red floppies)--->eCS112mr).
> Profiles do dot need to be berried at the bottom of a cryptic tree, you
> can put them anywhere you want.
>
> SM 1X and 2X require different profiles but I am still using the same
> data noted above.  With sqlite coming in that may change.
>
> In W2K and WXP create a shortcut and add a space and "-Profilemanager"
> after the run command.  Then when SM Win loads lead it to the 1X or 2X
> profile.  I have not needed to do anything else for Win.
>
> I run SM OS/2 without any addons.  SM Win I let add Flash.
>
> Works fine.
>
> There are some other tricks but I have to go now.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
Thanks Ray
Regards
Jim

Jim Hughes wrote:

> I'm concerned about conflicts and if there is anything else I would need
> to do, so I would appreciate comment from the collective wisdom. TIA

I have been sharing profiles between OS/2-eCS and Win for several years.
   It is trivial and safe.

First, I have profiles, mail/news and bookmarks in separate trees on a
data data drive.  It is FAT32 and works fine.  The apps are on another
FAT32 drive.

All OS/2 needs is:
SET MOZILLA_HOME=X:\MOZPROFILES
SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=X:\MOZPROFILES\PLUGINS

And the LIB DLLs in OS2/DLL

And a run object with -Profilemanager as a parameter.

Create the profiles under OS/2-eCS and point to bookmarks and mail/news,
cache, bookmarks - I still use bookmark.htm; 8.3 that started life in NS.

Profiles do dot need to be berried at the bottom of a cryptic tree, you
can put them anywhere you want.

SM 1X and 2X require different profiles but I am still using the same
data noted above.  With sqlite coming in that may change.

In W2K and WXP create a shortcut and add a space and "-Profilemanager"
after the run command.  Then when SM Win loads lead it to the 1X or 2X
profile.  I have not needed to do anything else for Win.

I run SM OS/2 without any addons.  SM Win I let add Flash.

Works fine.

There are some other tricks but I have to go now.

Ray

On 2009_11_12 16:58, Jim Hughes wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Having had my windows installation eat itself (or catastrophic operator
> error) and having to reinstall everything, can I get away with doing the
> following:
>
> .... etc.
---------------- snip -----------------------

Thank you Steve, Stan and David. More reading is obviously required. I
may just try my idea when I get a moment and see what happens, 90+% of
my time is in os2 not windows, so it is not a vital thing to make
happen, I just like the idea of everything in one place rather than
rather than shifting bits back and forth.

Regards
Jim

Jim Hughes wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Having had my windows installation eat itself (or catastrophic operator
> error) and having to reinstall everything, can I get away with doing the
> following:
>
> 1. Adding to the win XP system variables
>
>     SET MOZILLA_HOME=L:\!net-home\
>     SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=L:\!net-home\MOZ_PLUG\w32
>
As has been stated, this is an OS/2 only  thing.
> 2. Then setting up an un-*.slt'd  profile of the same name and in the
> same working "HOME" sub directory as I have for eCS 1.1x and eCS1.2mr,
> saving off the current eCS profile and then copying back after the
> windows set-up completes. the eCS plugins arre currently in the root of
> ...\MOZ_PLUG but I'm thinking of shifting them to ...\MOZ_PLUG\os2 just
> for consistency. The desired end result being, that the 3 opsys
> SeaMonkey installations all work out of:
>     L:\!net-home\Mozilla\Profiles\ <profile name>
>
> Drive L: is a fat32 partition, and my mail is in a separate directory
> pointed to in the respective "Mail Account" settings
>
> I'm concerned about conflicts and if there is anything else I would need
> to do, so I would appreciate comment from the collective wisdom. TIA
It's been a while since I have done this, but it is simple to do:

- Set-up the profile using eCS on the shared partition.

- In Windows, use the Seamonkey profile manager to add a new profile.  Don't
accept the standard profile directory but browse to the profile directory you
want to use and select it.

The issues I can remember with this are:

- There are some settings that use the full path.  If the drive letter is
different for the two OSes, there could be problems.

- The status of addons are checked when Seamonkey detects a version change. 
This will happen everytime you swap OSes if the two aren't kept at the same
version.  There is probably a profile option to turn this off or change the
frequency.

- Some addons are OS dependent.  These will cause problems.

David

I think
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Backing+up+your+information#Backing_up_your_\
profile
  should be of help, especially the advanced portion.  I don't think
it's impossible  to do, but it's possible that there are some OS/2
specific things in some of the profile settings files that may make it
incompatible with a Windows version using the same data. In any case
you would know very rapidly... GRD  If it's just bookmarks, THAT could
be done with a dos or REXX script that copied the windows  bookmark
file prior to actually opening the OS/2 version, and copied it back
after the os/2 version closed. .

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jim Hughes <4hughes@...> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Having had my windows installation eat itself (or catastrophic operator
> error) and having to reinstall everything, can I get away with doing the
> following:
>
> 1. Adding to the win XP system variables
>
>    SET MOZILLA_HOME=L:\!net-home\
>    SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=L:\!net-home\MOZ_PLUG\w32
>
> 2. Then setting up an un-*.slt'd  profile of the same name and in the
> same working "HOME" sub directory as I have for eCS 1.1x and eCS1.2mr,
> saving off the current eCS profile and then copying back after the
> windows set-up completes. the eCS plugins arre currently in the root of
> ...\MOZ_PLUG but I'm thinking of shifting them to ...\MOZ_PLUG\os2 just
> for consistency. The desired end result being, that the 3 opsys
> SeaMonkey installations all work out of:
>    L:\!net-home\Mozilla\Profiles\ <profile name>
>
> Drive L: is a fat32 partition, and my mail is in a separate directory
> pointed to in the respective "Mail Account" settings
>
> I'm concerned about conflicts and if there is anything else I would need
> to do, so I would appreciate comment from the collective wisdom. TIA
>
> Regards
> Jim Hughes
>
>

> 1. Adding to the win XP system variables
>
>     SET MOZILLA_HOME=L:\!net-home\

I'm pretty sure MOZILLA_HOME is OS/2 specific.  You would have to use the
profile manager to point your profile location to the directory you want.

> The desired end result being, that the 3 opsys
> SeaMonkey installations all work out of:
>     L:\!net-home\Mozilla\Profiles\ <profile name>

I don't know if there are any caveats to sharing the profile across
operating systems; I would check Google for hints, unless others here have
advice.

> Drive L: is a fat32 partition

The performance under OS/2 will probably be poor...

Hi All

Having had my windows installation eat itself (or catastrophic operator
error) and having to reinstall everything, can I get away with doing the
following:

1. Adding to the win XP system variables

     SET MOZILLA_HOME=L:\!net-home\
     SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=L:\!net-home\MOZ_PLUG\w32

2. Then setting up an un-*.slt'd  profile of the same name and in the
same working "HOME" sub directory as I have for eCS 1.1x and eCS1.2mr,
saving off the current eCS profile and then copying back after the
windows set-up completes. the eCS plugins arre currently in the root of
...\MOZ_PLUG but I'm thinking of shifting them to ...\MOZ_PLUG\os2 just
for consistency. The desired end result being, that the 3 opsys
SeaMonkey installations all work out of:
     L:\!net-home\Mozilla\Profiles\ <profile name>

Drive L: is a fat32 partition, and my mail is in a separate directory
pointed to in the respective "Mail Account" settings

I'm concerned about conflicts and if there is anything else I would need
to do, so I would appreciate comment from the collective wisdom. TIA

Regards
Jim Hughes

>> Not that it matters, but MacOS uses CUPS for printer drivers.
>>
> Of which I even don't have to think about.
>
> Whereas after more than 5 tries with eCups I had to give in: this stuff
> simply isn't meant for simple human beings. (-:

Having it integrated with the OS already is certainly better.  The WarpIn
package is supposed to simplify things, but I haven't bothered to try any
of it.  I rarely print, and the Postscript driver works.

stevew@... ha scritto:

> > Looks like for browsing we will have to move to the Mac too. (-:
>
> Not that it matters, but MacOS uses CUPS for printer drivers.
>
Of which I even don't have to think about.

Whereas after more than 5 tries with eCups I had to give in: this stuff
simply isn't meant for simple human beings. (-:

--
Groeten uit Gent,

    Kris

>> It has nothing to do with Javascript. Seamonkey 1.1.18 switched to a
>> newer version of some libraries to fix some security holes,
>>
> So what's the reason why ebay works here and not at Tom Browns?

I have no idea what the specifics are about Tom's issue; as he said, it
works most of the time.  I was just sharing what I know. ;-)

> I really wouldn't call a browser lacking printer functions "stable".

Seamonkey is a cross-platform browser, and OS/2-specific issues don't mean
much to anyone else, as far as stability goes.  It looks like there will
be an automated printing solution for PostScript and CUPS printers in the
near future; a solution that works with all of the old OS/2 printer
drivers would require an expert in that area to work on the Cairo library.
  To be honest, I don't think that is going to happen.

> Looks like for browsing we will have to move to the Mac too. (-:

Not that it matters, but MacOS uses CUPS for printer drivers.

Steve Wendt wrote:
[snip]
> >> >> -Your browser does not recognize the Certificate Authority that issued
> >> >> the site's certificate.
> > >
> > >Which indicates a javascript problem.

> It has nothing to do with Javascript.  Seamonkey 1.1.18 switched to a newer
> version of some libraries to fix some security holes, and there are a few
minor
> (and cross-platform) SSL issues that have been reported as a result.  It is
> important to note that they are very likely NOT going to be fixed; Seamonkey
> 2.x is the current stable version, and does not have the same problems
> (supposedly).

This sounds like it could be the answer. I have SM 2.0 on the machine, but have
not
been able to get it working just yet. Will test some more this evening.

SM 1.1.18 works MOST of the time. It may depend on which eBay server I get
connected
to. It has been suggested elsewhere that an eBay server might be configured
incorrectly.

Thanks!


--
Tom Brown, Catherder
thomabrown at gmail dot com
Member SCOUG, V.O.I.C.E., SDAA, & SDFWA

Steve Wendt ha scritto:
>
> It has nothing to do with Javascript. Seamonkey 1.1.18 switched to a
> newer
> version of some libraries to fix some security holes,
>
So what's the reason why ebay works here and not at Tom Browns?
>
> current stable version, and does not have the same problems (supposedly) .
>
I really wouldn't call a browser lacking printer functions "stable".
Looks like for browsing we will have to move to the Mac too. (-:

--
Groeten uit Gent,

    Kris