G'Day Gang.

Greetings Konrad.

George sorry for the confusion you did a sketch some time back of a
circle and caught the ambiance of the area at that time which was
also from your memory of a photo which was pretty good you also sent
me some coloured photo's of the pines "in the Grange" and they were
the totally wrong species. (From what I remember along the fence line)

Then came Judy's (VUfORs) photo (hope I've got that in order) and
those trees are right (type) also more than one species, just the
type I was looking for, the grass is right also and of course in a
paddock but I don't remember the cottage there was no houses around
the area, that is, visible from within the paddock we were in.

The impression of a close up of that circle from your memory from a
photo is NOT what we saw which is why I was asking what did Judy/Paul
think of them did they describe them in more detail during the slide
nights or is the D/Journal it a couple of patches.

When you and I first made contact you sent me a cropped picture of
the AP66 covering Marquis's property and part of the Grange and I
tried to work within that, then Shane produced a better AP66 of the
area and with research, speaking to Bill Marquis getting to know the
area I realized it wasn't possible it was more South/West.

With your permission I also sent it to Ken and we both agree it was
further South/West which your cropped photo didn't cover.

Hope I've covered everything.

I'm thinking of putting on the board a collection of facts (which can
be proven) to help whittle down the areas regarding the whereabouts
of circles and possible jog a few memories.

Cheers for now Les

--- In Westallhighschoolufo@yahoogroups.com, "George" <aufornvic@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Les, I always got the impression that the picture I saw was of
the circle that you showed your sister, except the one near the
school rather than the one down in the other end of the paddock. In
the photo you could see the tree you hid behind while those blokes
tried to destroy that circle you were near.
> Cheers...George
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: westisall
> To: Westallhighschoolufo@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:30 PM
> Subject: [Westallhighschoolufo] Re: Re-err-Circles
>
>
> G'Day Gang
>
> G'Day George.
>
> Yes I had a feeling that was the case I couldn't see them just
taking
> the one picture this one looks to me (and I assume Judy took the
> picture)like she is standing in one circular patch taking a
picture
> of the other, err, patch using the children to mark the spot.
>
> Your years at VUFORs did they, Judy/Paul ever display any sort of
awe
> or describe in detail these patches or were they unimpressed with
> them.
>
> You know like do they think they (circle) had been messed up
> (although a roughly thirty foot circle messed up and calling it a
> patch still bugs me) any other information other than what is in
the
> D/Jounal?
>
> Thanks George cheers Les
>
> --- In Westallhighschoolufo@yahoogroups.com, "George"
<aufornvic@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Les, it's funny how no-one has come up with that photo, even
> after all this time. Surely someone has one.
> > Cheers...George
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: westisall
> > To: Westallhighschoolufo@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:34 AM
> > Subject: [Westallhighschoolufo] Re-err-Circles
> >
> >
> > G'Day Gang.
> >
> > Just recently I've worked out where Judy/Paul took their
Photo's
> and
> > the workers cottage where Paul spoke to a gentleman residing
> there.
> >
> > It is the property next door(the sand mines) West of what's
left
> of
> > the Grange today.
> >
> > The photo was taken looking to the West the main stumbling
block
> or
> > mental block is the trees in the background appear to be along
a
> > fence line whereas in the AP 66 there isn't a fence ignore the
2D
> > effect of the VUFOR photo.
> >
> > Just a couple of days ago I found a website where George (Hello
> > George) has had an impression of a circle or part there of
placed
> in
> > the VUFORs photo, of how George remembers it from slides/photos
> he
> > saw of the circle/s whilst he was a member of VUFORs.(correct
me
> if
> > I'm wrong George)
> >
> > It has always had me perplexed at the way Judy describe them as
> > a "couple of circular patches" and said the wind might have
> caused
> > them (D/Journal) and Mr Shepherd with his pad/s and many other
> > witnesses when you asked them which way the grass was flattened
> they
> > would say just flattened you also notice they don't mention
> scorching
> > or burnt either (others have.)
> >
> > The witnesses who claim that the craft landed on the oval also
> have a
> > problem when you ask them to describe the circle they mention
> tall
> > grass flattened over. (the grass was kept short/mowed on the
> school
> > property)
> >
> > I'm suggesting that with time a witness remembers the school
> ground,
> > the event/circle/s etc and blends them together or knows the
> Grange
> > well and blends the event to a particular memory of the grange
or
> > works at the southeast part of the old Grange and has the
circles
> at
> > the back of his works.
> >
> > It is only food for thought I'm suggesting that the getting
there
> as
> > in my case as well was not important and so forgotten, filled
in
> with
> > a montage of images from those times from our memories.
> >
> > You have the images of the event and later in time you ask
> yourself
> > now where exactly was it.(regarding Circle/s)
> >
> > And I'm not saying that is the case for all witnesses.
> >
> > Is this possible?
> >
> > Damn nearly forgot the link
> >
> > http://www.auforn.com/westall.html
> >
> > If George's memory of the photo is correct and I don't doubt
it,
> then
> > Judy was correct in assuming the wind could have form them
(wind
> > shear) or the kids that were there made them or the Farmer whom
I
> > have spoken on two occasion said he did some work up at the top
> > paddock around that time and had equipment failure.
> >
> > George's impression of the circle has that "bowl" effect
whereas
> I
> > remember, counter rotating flattened grass, at the
circumference
> a
> > sharp finish between the flattened grass and the standing
grass.
> >
> > Whatever did this didn't move on its axis.
> >
> > Better go Cheers Les
> >
>