If you don't want to go to the trouble to setup and host a Wiki site
yourself (or don't have the means), there is http://www.swiki.net that I
wrote (based on Swiki http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/swiki) ...it is free
to use. I believe there are a few other similar services.

Anyway, I'd also highly recommend the Swiki implementation if you do
want to setup your own site...it's progressed quite nicely in the last
couple of years and has some nice new web based administration
capabilities.

- Stephen


-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Vermeulen [mailto:Christophe.Vermeulen@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:50 AM
To: WikiForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WikiForum] Re: whispering


Hi mate, how you doing ?

Michael C White wrote:
>
> Hello Christophe,
> from regional Australia.
> I have a theory about wiki.
> I find the idea of wiki just awe inspiring.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm profoundly convinced of the huge
advantages of wiki, enough to be (or have been) an advocate of it in my
company and going through the trouble of making my own version, that for
example recognizes the string "RFC 891" or "rfc091" and point to the
IETF specs automatically. I also contributed the AutomatedPlurals
concept (so that it will link to AutomatedPlural), including the
handling of -y and -ss plurals in -ies and -sses.

> Why the world just did not grab it and use it I am puzzled.

In two words : it's not trivial to install, and the results
are not flashy enough (e.g. not easy to insert images, etc.)

> Maybe the name wiki is not readily understood worldwide.
> It was a word I had never heard until I began researching
> collaborative software.

I don't think that's the issue. Call it Tex2Web if you want,
it won't change anything. Well, maybe I should TradeMark that name ? ;-)

> Repackaged and sold under a different name that was more readily
> understood and described what it did, it may surprise everybody.
> Something like " instant web page publisher" that

There are many sorts of "instant web page publishers", including asp,
grabber? (not sure of the name, it makes kind of "journals" in any site
using FTP) and so on. Wiki is unique in the sense that it not only
converts "http://something" in a link, but also all CapitalisedWords,
and many more in my version.

> the most unskilled web surfer can use,
> along with the most sophisticated of internet users.
> The ultimate in collaborative software and free to all.
> >From hobbyists to running international call centers,
> and constructing corporate "User Manuals"!
>
> Have I got your attention now?



> Regards Michael White
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 7/11/01 at 7:46 AM Christophe.Vermeulen@... wrote:
>
> >Hi all Wiki'ers.
> >
> >It's actually even worse than quiet on the wiki front.
> >As a moderator, I received today a note from YahooGroups that said
> >that our forum would be closed if there was no activity on it. It
> >indeed didn't get any posting for more than three
> months.
> >
> >Actually, I had a discussion with Peter some time ago, that
> wondered
> >if it made sense to keep it open. I encouraged him not to close
> it,
> >because it only makes a few 404 not found links somewhere and it
> >doesn't cost anything to let it alive. I also argued that some people

> >kept subscribing, and very little of you did unsubscribe. To make the

> >test, let's repeat how you unsubscribe
> from
> >this group : it's very simple : you send an empty mail to
> >wikiforum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com. Please don't send
> >"unsubscribe" messages to the list, it only annoys people.
> >
> >But back to wiki, here are some small news from my site : Although I
> >was too lazy to correct the documented Y2K bug (2001 is shown as year

> >101), I was surprised to find it alive and kicking, with around 10
> >hits a day (a bit less in July), but very little changes in pages
> >(around one a month), all this excluding my own activities of course.
> >
> >Have a nice holiday and share your wiki experiences on this
> forum
> >if you want it to stay alive. Or unsubscribe if you lost
> interest.
> >That will allow us to get a clearer picture of the situation. FYI,
> >there are still more than 100 persons subscribed.
> >
> >Regards.
> >Christophe.
> >
> >--- In WikiForum@y..., Christophe Vermeulen
> ><Christophe.Vermeulen@a...> wrote:
> >> Hi Peter and all,
> >>
> >> Indeed incredibly quiet on the Wiki front. As I was relocated for
> >> one year in sunny Côte d'Azur, so no work on my
> "clone", I
> >> wonder how I'll find it back after one year without support. Broken

> >> ? Still running without contribs ? Booming ?
> >>
> >> Anyway, to add to Peter's answer, yes, wiki is usually only a
>
> >> part of a "conventional" website. You obviously need to have Perl
> >> somewhere and refer to it in the first line of the
> script.
> >>
> >> If you want to use the automatic "backup" using RCS, it will take
> >> longer. And even a bit longer if you want to get direct access to
> >> the "old versions".
> >>
> >> About links, yes you can easily code "outbound" links in wiki by
> >> typing "http://somewhere". Inbound links would be in the
> form
> >> of "http://host.domain.com/cgi-bin/view/wikiname/wikitopic".
> >> But your mileage may vary a bit.
> >>
> >> Enjoy Wiki.
> >> Kind regards.
> >>
> >> Christophe.
> >>
> >> PS. This address (@etsi.fr) will cease working soon. Please
> reply
> >> either on the list or @alcatel.be.
> >>
> /
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