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#2340 From: "juanig1964" <juanmaringomez@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 9:55 am
Subject: Thanks
juanig1964
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Thanks, Dave:
I´ve received my new FLT 110, and I appreciate very much your
comments.
I´ll post my opinion in brief, when could see anything in this cloudy
and frozen nights!!
Thanks again,
Juan

#2341 From: "nickroams" <nickroams@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 10:47 am
Subject: Re: New images with Megrez 80 SD (and Canon 300D)
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Hello Laurent
I'm curious, what details can you see on Saturn/Jupiter (my
favourites)? Can you give us any detailed descriptions as I'm trying
to decide which scope - 80 II or 80 APO for a small travel-scope.
Regards,
N


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "Laurent LACOTE"
<laurent.lacote@w...> wrote:
> Thank's
>
> No, I haven't tried any fotos of planets or moon, I don't know waht
> can be the results :-((
>
> Anyway, visually, it's a nice scope for planets or moon (I've
tried),
> very pleasant !!
>
> Enjoy your new scope
>
> Laurent.
>
> --- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Søren Madsen <Soeren@M...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Laurent!
> >
> > You have some very nice images indeede! I cant wait to get my
> scope... :)
> >
> > Have you taken any planetary or moon photos with the megrez?
> >
> > Also... How you do think it does (visulally) with planets and
moon?
> > Because it seem to be very good for wide fields... :)
> >
> > Anyways... Beautiful images!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Søren Madsen

#2342 From: "Laurent LACOTE" <laurent.lacote@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 5:52 pm
Subject: Megrez 80 : spherical aberations !!??!!!
lalacote
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Hello,

I' ve experienced an important spherical aberation on my Megrez 80
SD : does anyone has the same problem.

Have a look to my website
http://astrosurf.com/lacote/ciel-profond-300D.htm

thank's for your answer.

#2343 From: "ion_op" <ion_op@...>
Date: Tue Mar 2, 2004 10:29 pm
Subject: WO 2" SCT Diagonal question
ion_op
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Hi,

Will the WO 2" SCT Diagonal accept 2" filters or would I have to
purchase the refractor-style one? I've read that for an SCT your
better off getting the SCT version because there's less likely the
chance the diagonal slipping and falling off the scope.

Mike

#2344 From: "Mark Evans" <list@...>
Date: Wed Mar 3, 2004 1:47 am
Subject: RE: WO 2" SCT Diagonal question
mrmark.rm
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The SCT type will accept SCT type filters. Depending on your setup, you could
use either type. Some are better at some things, refractor type has larger
optical path (due to SCT threaded visual backs not mirror), can use 2" filters,
etc. SCT type is typically shorter if you have a fork clearance issue.

ME

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
> Hi,
>
> Will the WO 2" SCT Diagonal accept 2" filters or would I have to
> purchase the refractor-style one? I've read that for an SCT your
> better off getting the SCT version because there's less likely the
> chance the diagonal slipping and falling off the scope.
>
> Mike
>
>
>

#2345 From: "peturnielsen" <peturnielsen@...>
Date: Wed Mar 3, 2004 11:25 pm
Subject: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
peturnielsen
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i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any messages
comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just cant
decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both

so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict

peter

#2346 From: Søren Madsen <Soeren@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 12:14 am
Subject: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
spmadsen2002
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--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "peturnielsen"
<peturnielsen@y...> wrote:
> i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any messages
> comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just cant
> decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both
>
> so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict

AFAIK, no-one (in the US atleast) have tried the Megrez 80 II semi-apo
yet, except for William. You can read his comparison of the two scopes
here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/William-Optics/message/2285

Although William may be heavily biased towards the Megrez, I think
that the information he gives here should be pretty accurate. After I
compared the (old) Megrez 80 and the Orion 80ED (by reading reviews of
both, not "hands-on" comparing), then I came to pretty much the same
as William states.

Im just hoping that the M2 arrives in the US soon... :)

Kind Regards,
Soeren Madsen

#2347 From: "peturnielsen" <peturnielsen@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 12:25 am
Subject: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
peturnielsen
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then my other question:  is the price difference worth the difference
between the semi-apo and the apo

peter


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Søren Madsen <Soeren@M...>
wrote:
> --- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "peturnielsen"
> <peturnielsen@y...> wrote:
> > i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any
messages
> > comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just
cant
> > decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both
> >
> > so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict
>
> AFAIK, no-one (in the US atleast) have tried the Megrez 80 II semi-
apo
> yet, except for William. You can read his comparison of the two
scopes
> here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/William-Optics/message/2285
>
> Although William may be heavily biased towards the Megrez, I think
> that the information he gives here should be pretty accurate. After
I
> compared the (old) Megrez 80 and the Orion 80ED (by reading reviews
of
> both, not "hands-on" comparing), then I came to pretty much the same
> as William states.
>
> Im just hoping that the M2 arrives in the US soon... :)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Soeren Madsen

#2348 From: Søren Madsen <Soeren@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 12:39 am
Subject: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
spmadsen2002
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> then my other question:  is the price difference worth the difference
> between the semi-apo and the apo

I guess only you can answer that! :-)

I have ordered the semi-apo because the APO is simply too expensive
for my budget. And for my intended use of the telescope, I can not
justify paying so much as the APO costs (and my better half would
probably think I was crazy if I payed $1500 for a small telescope :)

But only you can tell if the APO is worth the extra money... =:0

Kind Regards,
Soeren Madsen

#2349 From: "rrivoir" <rri@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 8:52 am
Subject: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
rrivoir
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Hi Peter,

I tried side to side Megrez II and Orion 80 ED on a photographic test
card in my local dealer in Switzerland.

The M2 come from the first batch with the coating problem (spotted
coating on the rear lens). M2 shows a boring yellow tint, contrast
and color correction are much better on Orion 80ED.

Mechanical realization is superior on M2 (the focuser stay in place
with heavy eyepiece pointing zenith), Orion is badly finished, more
cumbersome and appears more fragile (the scope base is ridiculous,
the internal baffling is rubbish).

Finally, I did not buy any of the two.

If WO corrects his coating problem on the next batch, I shall fall
for the M2.

Only my 2 cents, no polemic...

Regards
Robert


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "peturnielsen"
<peturnielsen@y...> wrote:
> i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any messages
> comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just cant
> decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both
>
> so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict
>
> peter

#2350 From: "Peter J. A. Bilitch" <peterbilitch@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 1:13 pm
Subject: lens quality
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Hello William,

I received my Megrez II Triplet APO 80/480 and when looking at the
lens immediately noticed a number of coloured spots on the inner
lens. I could not detect any obvious visual effects from these, snce
the visual image presented itself as sharp up to 90+ magnification,
but surely this kind of discolouration should not be on the lens.

Additionally, when bringing the scope back inside from a cold nights
viewing, there was condensation on the middle (inside) lens, which
showed up a wave-like streaking on one side. The lens was certified
as of March 2003 which a strahl ratio of 0.03, the photocopy of the
Ronchi test shows similar wave-patterning.

I have sent the telescope back to the dealer and they will send it
back to the factory, but I was hoping you might also be able to
comment on all of this to help me understand the signifigance or
otherwise of the lens quality.

With kind regards,

Peter

#2351 From: "Christian Vye" <cvye@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 2:41 pm
Subject: RE: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
cvye
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Looks to me like the apo triplet has some competition for its price (c.a. $1600) with the TV-76 (OTA c.a. $1300).
-----Original Message-----
From: peturnielsen [mailto:peturnielsen@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:25 PM
To: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [William-Optics] Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80

then my other question:  is the price difference worth the difference
between the semi-apo and the apo

peter


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Søren Madsen <Soeren@M...>
wrote:
> --- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "peturnielsen"
> <peturnielsen@y...> wrote:
> > i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any
messages
> > comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just
cant
> > decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both
> >
> > so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict
>
> AFAIK, no-one (in the US atleast) have tried the Megrez 80 II semi-
apo
> yet, except for William. You can read his comparison of the two
scopes
> here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/William-Optics/message/2285
>
> Although William may be heavily biased towards the Megrez, I think
> that the information he gives here should be pretty accurate. After
I
> compared the (old) Megrez 80 and the Orion 80ED (by reading reviews
of
> both, not "hands-on" comparing), then I came to pretty much the same
> as William states.
>
> Im just hoping that the M2 arrives in the US soon... :)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Soeren Madsen


#2352 From: "Andy Witt" <wittar1@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 3:14 pm
Subject: Problem with 2" Diagonal
dores111
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I had a major problem wth my 2" diagonal for an SCT last night.  The
part of the diagonal that screws into the back of my SCT fell off
the rest of the diagonal.  It looks like there are 4 set-screws (2
on each side) that hold this in place.  Unfortunately, they do not
hold it in place anymore.  Is this something that I should fix
myself or send it back to Williams?  I do not want to void my
warranty by taking the metal side panels off.  Has anyone else had
this problem?  Should the threaded part rotate independently of the
rest of the diagonal?

Thanks,
Andy

#2353 From: Søren Madsen <Soeren@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
spmadsen2002
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Hi Robert!

It good to hear from one who has actually tried the scope... :)

> I tried side to side Megrez II and Orion 80 ED on a photographic test
> card in my local dealer in Switzerland.

Have you hear anything from actual users of the scope in Switzerland?
Maby the store owner?

> The M2 come from the first batch with the coating problem (spotted
> coating on the rear lens). M2 shows a boring yellow tint, contrast
> and color correction are much better on Orion 80ED.

Like in the color of the M2 is bad, or is this something you only
notice when you compare it side by side with another scope?
Have you any idea on how it compares to the M1?

Kind Regards,
Søren Madsen

#2354 From: Isamuthx <isamuthx@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
isamuthx
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Hi Andy,

I've heard of this problem before.  A couple of users
in the Stellarvue yahoo group had the same thing
happen with their diagonals (for refractors, not SCT).
  I don't think you'll void the warrenty by taking off
the side pannels (but I could be wrong, so I'd contact
Williams first).  I've taken mine off to check the 4
set screws and to blow dust off the mirror.  It's
strange on my diagonal because all 4 set screwes were
loose, but the tube would not budge (even when I
loosend the set screwes all the way), so I'm wondering
if Williams has redesigned their newer diagonals so
they don't need the set screws.  Mine almost looks
like it's threaded together at the diagonal
body/focuser tube joint.  I've asked williams about
it, but I think there's a communication problem,
becuase they don't seem to understand what I'm asking
them.  I purchased my diagonal in December 2003, so
mine's a pretty new one.  Is your SCT diagonal a
fairly new one as well, or have you had it for a
while?  I'm asking because I heard they released the
"new generation" version about Novemberish of last
year.

Clear Skys!

Jeff (Utah)


--- Andy Witt <wittar1@...> wrote:
> I had a major problem wth my 2" diagonal for an SCT
> last night.  The
> part of the diagonal that screws into the back of my
> SCT fell off
> the rest of the diagonal.  It looks like there are 4
> set-screws (2
> on each side) that hold this in place.
> Unfortunately, they do not
> hold it in place anymore.  Is this something that I
> should fix
> myself or send it back to Williams?  I do not want
> to void my
> warranty by taking the metal side panels off.  Has
> anyone else had
> this problem?  Should the threaded part rotate
> independently of the
> rest of the diagonal?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
>


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#2355 From: "Andy Witt" <wittar1@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
dores111
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Jeff,

I purchased mine in February 2004.  So, it is very new.  Luckily, I
was placing a Barlow on when it decided to let go.  I had the
diagonal in my hand so it did not fall to the ground which was a
concrete pad.  Very disappointing to lose the diagonal.  The optics
were much better than my old 1.25" diagonal.

Andy


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Isamuthx <isamuthx@y...>
wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> I've heard of this problem before.  A couple of users
> in the Stellarvue yahoo group had the same thing
> happen with their diagonals (for refractors, not SCT).
>  I don't think you'll void the warrenty by taking off
> the side pannels (but I could be wrong, so I'd contact
> Williams first).  I've taken mine off to check the 4
> set screws and to blow dust off the mirror.  It's
> strange on my diagonal because all 4 set screwes were
> loose, but the tube would not budge (even when I
> loosend the set screwes all the way), so I'm wondering
> if Williams has redesigned their newer diagonals so
> they don't need the set screws.  Mine almost looks
> like it's threaded together at the diagonal
> body/focuser tube joint.  I've asked williams about
> it, but I think there's a communication problem,
> becuase they don't seem to understand what I'm asking
> them.  I purchased my diagonal in December 2003, so
> mine's a pretty new one.  Is your SCT diagonal a
> fairly new one as well, or have you had it for a
> while?  I'm asking because I heard they released the
> "new generation" version about Novemberish of last
> year.
>
> Clear Skys!
>
> Jeff (Utah)
>
>
> --- Andy Witt <wittar1@c...> wrote:
> > I had a major problem wth my 2" diagonal for an SCT
> > last night.  The
> > part of the diagonal that screws into the back of my
> > SCT fell off
> > the rest of the diagonal.  It looks like there are 4
> > set-screws (2
> > on each side) that hold this in place.
> > Unfortunately, they do not
> > hold it in place anymore.  Is this something that I
> > should fix
> > myself or send it back to Williams?  I do not want
> > to void my
> > warranty by taking the metal side panels off.  Has
> > anyone else had
> > this problem?  Should the threaded part rotate
> > independently of the
> > rest of the diagonal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
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#2356 From: "ragreiner5" <ragreiner5@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80
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I have recently received my Megrez 80 Triplet APO.  I have several TV scopes including the TV-76 and the NP101.  I also have the Takahashi Sky 90.   I briefly had an Orion but found it unsatisfactory compared to others I have.  The Megrez I received was optically clean, had good coatings and mechanically excellent in every way.
 
I found the Sky 90 to be slightly superior to the TV-76.  This is simply because the Sky 90 is optically a beter design and carries typical Takahashi mechanical quality.
 
I also found the Megrez 80 Triplet APO to be optically better than the Sky 90 when viewing  bright objects.  It simply has much less color fringing.  It is a much better APO than many that make this claim.    The Megrez is of good mechanical quality but the Takahashi is very slightly better mechanically.
 
I have compared the TV NP101 and the Takahashi FSQ106.   Optically they are both very good.  But the TV is mechanically junky compared to the Takahashi.
 
All things considered, I found the Megrez APO to be a very fine scope at a reasonable price.  I am looking forward to seeing their new 110 Triplet.
 
This all just one man's opinion of course.
 
Doc G 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: [William-Optics] Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80

Looks to me like the apo triplet has some competition for its price (c.a. $1600) with the TV-76 (OTA c.a. $1300).
-----Original Message-----
From: peturnielsen [mailto:peturnielsen@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:25 PM
To: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [William-Optics] Re: megrez 80 II vs orion ed 80

then my other question:  is the price difference worth the difference
between the semi-apo and the apo

peter


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Søren Madsen <Soeren@M...>
wrote:
> --- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "peturnielsen"
> <peturnielsen@y...> wrote:
> > i know this has been discussed before but i cant find any
messages
> > comparing these two.  want to get one or the other but i just
cant
> > decide on which one and i dont have the chance of trying out both
> >
> > so has anyone tried them and if so what is the verdict
>
> AFAIK, no-one (in the US atleast) have tried the Megrez 80 II semi-
apo
> yet, except for William. You can read his comparison of the two
scopes
> here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/William-Optics/message/2285
>
> Although William may be heavily biased towards the Megrez, I think
> that the information he gives here should be pretty accurate. After
I
> compared the (old) Megrez 80 and the Orion 80ED (by reading reviews
of
> both, not "hands-on" comparing), then I came to pretty much the same
> as William states.
>
> Im just hoping that the M2 arrives in the US soon... :)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Soeren Madsen


#2357 From: Isamuthx <isamuthx@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
isamuthx
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Andy,

Ah, so I'm guessing that Williams hasn't addressed
this problem with their newer diagonals then.  How
unfortunate.  I'm very surprised that they haven't
posted something on their website to let owners know
of the potential problem with their diagonals and how
to fix them.  I'm currently waiting on a new diagonal
that soon to be released, to replace my Williams.  I
just don't like the thought of the diagonal comming
appart with an expensive eyepeice in it.

Jeff


--- Andy Witt <wittar1@...> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I purchased mine in February 2004.  So, it is very
> new.  Luckily, I
> was placing a Barlow on when it decided to let go.
> I had the
> diagonal in my hand so it did not fall to the ground
> which was a
> concrete pad.  Very disappointing to lose the
> diagonal.  The optics
> were much better than my old 1.25" diagonal.
>
> Andy


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#2358 From: "Andy Witt" <wittar1@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
dores111
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Jeff,

Yes, I am extremely worried about that thing falling off when I have
about $500+ connected to it.  I am very dissappointed that the piece
failed.  It looked like a solid, well-machined piece and the optics
are the best I have had.  I guess that is why I am not completely
giving up on them.  This should be an easy fix that someone who
knows what they are doing (and at the moment I believe Williams do)
could solve the problem.  I just have to now wait until mine is
repaired to use a sub-par diagonal for viewing.

Andy


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Isamuthx <isamuthx@y...>
wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Ah, so I'm guessing that Williams hasn't addressed
> this problem with their newer diagonals then.  How
> unfortunate.  I'm very surprised that they haven't
> posted something on their website to let owners know
> of the potential problem with their diagonals and how
> to fix them.  I'm currently waiting on a new diagonal
> that soon to be released, to replace my Williams.  I
> just don't like the thought of the diagonal comming
> appart with an expensive eyepeice in it.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> --- Andy Witt <wittar1@c...> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I purchased mine in February 2004.  So, it is very
> > new.  Luckily, I
> > was placing a Barlow on when it decided to let go.
> > I had the
> > diagonal in my hand so it did not fall to the ground
> > which was a
> > concrete pad.  Very disappointing to lose the
> > diagonal.  The optics
> > were much better than my old 1.25" diagonal.
> >
> > Andy
>
>
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#2359 From: "williamoptics2004" <william@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
williamoptic...
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Dear Members,

Sorry for my delay answer,I just got back from a business trip now.

The problem on the SCT diagonal has been solved since 2003/OCT, we
have redesign the thread adapter. it's now safe.
I would like to know who has the same problem on SCT diagonal (the
very first version), because we would like to replace the new adapter
for someone who need to change.

Please contact me at:  william@...
Thank you.

William


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Isamuthx <isamuthx@y...> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Ah, so I'm guessing that Williams hasn't addressed
> this problem with their newer diagonals then.  How
> unfortunate.  I'm very surprised that they haven't
> posted something on their website to let owners know
> of the potential problem with their diagonals and how
> to fix them.  I'm currently waiting on a new diagonal
> that soon to be released, to replace my Williams.  I
> just don't like the thought of the diagonal comming
> appart with an expensive eyepeice in it.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> --- Andy Witt <wittar1@c...> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I purchased mine in February 2004.  So, it is very
> > new.  Luckily, I
> > was placing a Barlow on when it decided to let go.
> > I had the
> > diagonal in my hand so it did not fall to the ground
> > which was a
> > concrete pad.  Very disappointing to lose the
> > diagonal.  The optics
> > were much better than my old 1.25" diagonal.
> >
> > Andy
>
>
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#2361 From: "Andy Witt" <wittar1@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
dores111
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I called Williams Optics today and they were very helpful.  They
told me to take off the side panels and tighten with an allen
wrench.  BTW I found out that the allen screws took a 1.5mm wrench.
They also suggested that I use some locktight, which I did.  I am
still not sure this is the best design (4 set screws) for the type
of use I am using the diagonal - SCT.  As I said, the guys at
Williams were very helpful and concerned about my problem which I
think says alot for them.

Andy

#2362 From: "Stephen Hamilton" <shamilton@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 11:33 pm
Subject: New Member with Questions
e2pilot
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Hello all,

First, to those that aided me in getting into the group, thank you.  Secondly, I just received my Megrez 80 yesterday and along with it came the clouds (of course LOL).  I have seen something about this on the group already but can’t immediately locate it and that is; I am having trouble getting to focus with a standard diagonal (not a WO).  I am using an extension tube with it at this time, but is this normal?  I understand that the focuser on the Megrez 80 II is an inch longer and should take care of the issue (I have one ordered already).  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do about the current one or should I just use the extension tube?

Thanks,

Steve Hamilton


#2363 From: "Franco Sgueglia" <fsguegl@...>
Date: Thu Mar 4, 2004 11:52 pm
Subject: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
fsguegl
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Hi all,
I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
optical quality.
The only images that I have retreive are images
shoted by Bernardi
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%20
(Eleph.Trunk).JPG

and  Kanevsky
http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg


In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star ( like
an achromatic poor quality refractor)
But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters so
are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.

But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
(on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.

thanks
Franco Sgueglia

http://www.francosgueglia.com

#2364 From: "Jim Anderson" <jim.a@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 12:05 am
Subject: RE: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
jamesnanderson
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Franco,

I have had the FLT110 for almost a year now, and I can honestly tell you
that the optical quality of the scope is very hard to beat.  I have been
fortunate to have it play beside many AP's, TeleVue's, a new 115 TMB and
others and the scope holds it own with any of them.  If your OTA is as good
as the earlier releases, I can assure you you will be very pleased.

I am not qualified sufficiently to discuss the images you have reviewed, and
would like to hear from others on possibly why specific stars are showing
the blue halo.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Franco Sgueglia [mailto:fsguegl@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:52 PM
To: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [William-Optics] hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT


Hi all,
I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
optical quality.
The only images that I have retreive are images
shoted by Bernardi
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%20
(Eleph.Trunk).JPG

and  Kanevsky
http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg


In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star ( like
an achromatic poor quality refractor)
But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters so
are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.

But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
(on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.

thanks
Franco Sgueglia

http://www.francosgueglia.com






Yahoo! Groups Links

#2365 From: "dave_w2qa" <w2qa@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 12:16 am
Subject: Re: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
dave_w2qa
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Relax, you have a wonderful surprise coming.

In the meatime:  Look at all the images at those sites...

http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/

http://www.astrosurf.com/ccdaltazao/classicgallery.html

In some cases it is nebulosity that you are seeing, and some is due to
agressive processing and pixel bleedover (note that SCT photos at
"pk.dark" show similar "color").

I have not yet done any photography with my new FLT-110, but it as
free of spurious color as any refractor I have ever used (AP's,
Tak's etc.) and is significantly more "color free" than a
superb
FS-102 that I owned and loved using for nearly 2 years.

Dave Werner


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "Franco Sgueglia"
<fsguegl@t...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
> Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
> optical quality.
> The only images that I have retreive are images
> shoted by Bernardi
> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%20
> (Eleph.Trunk).JPG
>
> and  Kanevsky
> http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg
>
>
> In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star (
like
> an achromatic poor quality refractor)
> But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters so
> are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
> This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
> no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.
>
> But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
> (on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.
>
> thanks
> Franco Sgueglia
>
> http://www.francosgueglia.com

#2366 From: "Franco Sgueglia" <fsguegl@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 12:19 am
Subject: Re: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
fsguegl
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Thanks Jim,
when you speak about your experiece on FLT do you refer to visual
or photographycs experience?

Its very importante because I know that FLT is very good in visual
and comparable to AP,Tak ....etc
But I would know how FLT answer at to  photographics test.


thanks
Franco

http://www.francosgueglia.com


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Anderson" <jim.a@r...>
wrote:
> Franco,
>
> I have had the FLT110 for almost a year now, and I can honestly
tell you
> that the optical quality of the scope is very hard to beat.  I have
been
> fortunate to have it play beside many AP's, TeleVue's, a new 115
TMB and
> others and the scope holds it own with any of them.  If your OTA is
as good
> as the earlier releases, I can assure you you will be very pleased.
>
> I am not qualified sufficiently to discuss the images you have
reviewed, and
> would like to hear from others on possibly why specific stars are
showing
> the blue halo.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franco Sgueglia [mailto:fsguegl@t...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:52 PM
> To: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [William-Optics] hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
>
>
> Hi all,
> I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
> Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
> optical quality.
> The only images that I have retreive are images
> shoted by Bernardi
> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%20
> (Eleph.Trunk).JPG
>
> and  Kanevsky
> http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg
>
>
> In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star (
like
> an achromatic poor quality refractor)
> But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters so
> are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
> This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
> no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.
>
> But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
> (on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.
>
> thanks
> Franco Sgueglia
>
> http://www.francosgueglia.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

#2367 From: "Franco Sgueglia" <fsguegl@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 12:33 am
Subject: Re: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
fsguegl
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Thanks Dave,
I have already seen these sites,....
( I'm surfing web for each detail on FLT in last
days

Your and Jim word offer me  relax
So I can wait for my new "Toy" ......happy!!!


thanks
Franco

http://www.francosgueglia.com

--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "dave_w2qa" <w2qa@c...> wrote:
> Relax, you have a wonderful surprise coming.
>
> In the meatime:  Look at all the images at those sites...
>
> http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/
>
> http://www.astrosurf.com/ccdaltazao/classicgallery.html
>
> In some cases it is nebulosity that you are seeing, and some is due
to
> agressive processing and pixel bleedover (note that SCT photos at
> "pk.dark" show similar "color").
>
> I have not yet done any photography with my new FLT-110, but it as
> free of spurious color as any refractor I have ever used (AP's,
> Tak's etc.) and is significantly more "color free" than a
> superb
> FS-102 that I owned and loved using for nearly 2 years.
>
> Dave Werner
>
>
> --- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "Franco Sgueglia"
> <fsguegl@t...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
> > Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
> > optical quality.
> > The only images that I have retreive are images
> > shoted by Bernardi
> > http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%
20
> > (Eleph.Trunk).JPG
> >
> > and  Kanevsky
> > http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg
> >
> >
> > In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star (
> like
> > an achromatic poor quality refractor)
> > But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters
so
> > are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
> > This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
> > no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.
> >
> > But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
> > (on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.
> >
> > thanks
> > Franco Sgueglia
> >
> > http://www.francosgueglia.com

#2368 From: Isamuthx <isamuthx@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 5:17 am
Subject: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
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Andy (and everyone else),

I just got an email from William that clarifies the 4
set screw issue with Williams diagonals.  Here's what
he wrote:

"The 4 screws on the lower side is design for SCT
version not standard tube version, for standard tube
version does not require tighten 4 screws on the lower
side of main body, but you still need to tighten the 4
screws on  the upper side for eyepiece holder adapter.
the 2" tube adapter is using thread to secure the 2"
tube, it's 100% safe."

In an earlier post I said I was going to be getting
another diagonal to replace my Williams.  I no longer
am, since I now have faith that the Williams 2" tube
will not detach from the diagonal body.  My thanks go
out to William for clearing up this question.

Clear skys!

Jeff (Utah).





--- Andy Witt <wittar1@...> wrote:
> I called Williams Optics today and they were very
> helpful.  They
> told me to take off the side panels and tighten with
> an allen
> wrench.  BTW I found out that the allen screws took
> a 1.5mm wrench.
> They also suggested that I use some locktight, which
> I did.  I am
> still not sure this is the best design (4 set
> screws) for the type
> of use I am using the diagonal - SCT.  As I said,
> the guys at
> Williams were very helpful and concerned about my
> problem which I
> think says alot for them.
>
> Andy
>
>


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#2369 From: "Franco Sgueglia" <fsguegl@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 8:03 am
Subject: Re: hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
fsguegl
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Dear Jim,

I have received impression on images from William Yang on
my private Email

He write:

Dear Franco,

Thankl you for y0ur information,
The FLT 110 F6.5 has short focal length with 110mm aperture , this is
normal when in long-exposure photography, not
visual, you can use filter to cut this blue color for long -exposure
image.
please try more short exposure and combin together.

Thank you.

Best Regards,


William Yang
William Optics USA
www.william-optics.com

I hope great dark sky to all
Franco

http://www.francosgueglia.com



--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Anderson" <jim.a@r...>
wrote:
> Franco,
>
> I have had the FLT110 for almost a year now, and I can honestly
tell you
> that the optical quality of the scope is very hard to beat.  I have
been
> fortunate to have it play beside many AP's, TeleVue's, a new 115
TMB and
> others and the scope holds it own with any of them.  If your OTA is
as good
> as the earlier releases, I can assure you you will be very pleased.
>
> I am not qualified sufficiently to discuss the images you have
reviewed, and
> would like to hear from others on possibly why specific stars are
showing
> the blue halo.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franco Sgueglia [mailto:fsguegl@t...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:52 PM
> To: William-Optics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [William-Optics] hi all, I' m waiting for an FLT
>
>
> Hi all,
> I have purchase a new FLT110 WO.
> Waiting this scope I am go to find images to comprove
> optical quality.
> The only images that I have retreive are images
> shoted by Bernardi
> http://xoomer.virgilio.it/_XOOM/maxastrowebsite/images/IC%201396%20
> (Eleph.Trunk).JPG
>
> and  Kanevsky
> http://www.pk.darkhorizons.org/images/cone_rrgb2l.jpg
>
>
> In this images we can see a lot of blu halo around bright star (
like
> an achromatic poor quality refractor)
> But booth images were been realized trought CCD and RGB filters so
> are not ,for me , real testimoniance of effective optical quality.
> This because a different non balancend focusing for each filter or
> no good quality of filter could create this bad effect.
>
> But now I'm no happy , and I would view others shots with FLT
> (on film I prefer if exists to put away all my doubt.
>
> thanks
> Franco Sgueglia
>
> http://www.francosgueglia.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

#2370 From: Robert Hendricks <fshendricks@...>
Date: Fri Mar 5, 2004 8:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: Problem with 2" Diagonal
fshendricks
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I have one of your diagonals that I bough last fall.  How do I kow if I have the problem version?
 
Rob Hendricks  

williamoptics2004 <william@...> wrote:
Dear Members,

Sorry for my delay answer,I just got back from a business trip now.

The problem on the SCT diagonal has been solved since 2003/OCT, we
have redesign the thread adapter. it's now safe.
I would like to know who has the same problem on SCT diagonal (the
very first version), because we would like to replace the new adapter
for someone who need to change.

Please contact me at:  william@...
Thank you.

William


--- In William-Optics@yahoogroups.com, Isamuthx <isamuthx@y...> wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Ah, so I'm guessing that Williams hasn't addressed
> this problem with their newer diagonals then.  How
> unfortunate.  I'm very surprised that they haven't
> posted something on their website to let owners know
> of the potential problem with their diagonals and how
> to fix them.  I'm currently waiting on a new diagonal
> that soon to be released, to replace my Williams.  I
> just don't like the thought of the diagonal comming
> appart with an expensive eyepeice in it.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> --- Andy Witt <wittar1@c...> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I purchased mine in February 2004.  So, it is very
> > new.  Luckily, I
> > was placing a Barlow on when it decided to let go.
> > I had the
> > diagonal in my hand so it did not fall to the ground
> > which was a
> > concrete pad.  Very disappointing to lose the
> > diagonal.  The optics
> > were much better than my old 1.25" diagonal.
> >
> > Andy
>
>
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