This got me to thinking. Whale blubber was a major form of heating and lighting fuel at one time before the species became scarce due to overhunting. It would...
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hillmannfamily
Jan 1, 2006 9:25 pm
it would take to much space and i think whales take over ten years to grow to full size and the biggest whales only have five hundred gallons of oil,they could...
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Joe Greene
jdg1112001
Jan 1, 2006 9:58 pm
Most big whales strain plankton out of the sea for food - hundreds of pounds when small - thousands when mid sized - tons when full grown. They have to swim...
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tonkyman1979
Jan 1, 2006 10:12 pm
I think the idea is to use a "waste" product to make the bio from. PETA would cause you much grief over a whale but they don't seem to care about plants. The...
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John
metalarium
Jan 1, 2006 11:02 pm
Not really woodgas but in a similar vein, When I started work way back in 1957 I was an apprentice at the local sewage purification plant which at that time...
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wjsvt@...
vt5569
Jan 2, 2006 12:41 am
Let's see... Each whale, depending on species, eats up to 4 tons of krill per day. You're planning on getting that at your local feed store are you? Then...
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Tim Jones
gorp27
Jan 2, 2006 1:37 am
If I had the resources ($$$) to do it, I would clone the whales, tag them with transponders, and let them go in the ocean,then a bunch of years later when they...
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Arnold Anderson
caaan1ca
Jan 2, 2006 3:41 am
There is also technology available to convert straw etc to ethanol. Developed by IOGEN in Canada. Shell Global has a significant involvement in this. I think ...
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Ron Carroll
maytagtwin
Jan 2, 2006 5:27 am
Hi Keith and all, I have found the materials Bates sent me in 1970 with the hardware for injecting methane into an engine. I don't have a scanner so will be...
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keith ford
kf4tap
Jan 2, 2006 5:32 am
Way Cool!!!, i'll be looking for them to be posted. If nothing else Kinkos may be able to scan them in a pdf and put them on a disk for you. Them you still...
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tracy
towerace123
Jan 2, 2006 1:08 pm
guys i have been reading and looking at everything i can find trying to understand how to build a stove or gasifier to run a 4 cylinder generater on. for some...
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Hakan Falk
hakan_falk
Jan 2, 2006 1:27 pm
Tracy, If you search the web for "gengas" you will find many gengas stoves for continous supply, that easily can be made stationary. The only problem is the...
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Richard Stanley
rstenery
Jan 2, 2006 10:03 pm
Ron, Thanks for your generous offer to us all. I'll be glad to do this for the group but the key issue is not how to inject the methane as much as it is about...
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hillmannfamily
Jan 3, 2006 12:08 am
how often did they change the oil on the generators, and how much oil was in the crankcase. ... apprentice at the local sewage purification plant which at that...
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John
metalarium
Jan 3, 2006 12:44 am
The engines had a dry sump system with the oil being held in tanks of around 250 gallon capacity, The oil was put through a centrifuge weekly and viscosity...
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William Carr
Jkirk3279
Jan 3, 2006 3:06 am
... I don't know... maybe we should stick to killing animals with SMALLER brains than ours. Just as a general rule. [Non-text portions of this message have...
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William Carr
Jkirk3279
Jan 3, 2006 7:13 am
... Well, if you want to go that far, how about Salmon instead? Built- in homing instinct. Breed them for oil content, then clone off the best of the lot. ...
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Mark S.
throaway
Jan 3, 2006 3:11 pm
The salmon would just get gobbled up in our rapidly disappearing fisheries. Instead, genetically engineer the whales to grow smaller (size of small boats). Too...
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mphillipps2
Jan 3, 2006 6:12 pm
Do you know what supports large fishing grounds? Natural upwellings of deep nutrient rich water. I read that in certain remote areas of the ocean, adding a...
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William Carr
Jkirk3279
Jan 3, 2006 7:56 pm
... Fish Havens have strong, proven results in rejuvenating fishing grounds. Set aside carefully selected areas, restock with fish, and confiscate any fishing...
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maytagtwin@...
maytagtwin
Jan 5, 2006 1:19 am
Hi Richard, The package of Bate's (I finally noticed his name is Bate, not Bates) material is on the way to Tony Turner in Mississippi who will scan it in .pdf...
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Richard Stanley
rstenery
Jan 5, 2006 4:33 am
Ron, A bit of clarification needed here... Another member wrote that "On the Bates notes, I read in one of the online articles that the gas was filtered...
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ROBIN DUMPLETON
robin997979
Jan 5, 2006 8:50 am
Scuba cylinders are very small and restrictive when dealing with CNG. 4off Koomey cylinders are more suitable as that means that the compressor plant can be...
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Tony Grimes
manhattantony
Jan 5, 2006 3:53 pm
RE: [Stoves] downdraft gasifier space-heating-stoves? Martin Boll, Paul Anderson and list members, I've been working on a space heater for over a year now. I...
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maytagtwin@...
maytagtwin
Jan 5, 2006 5:24 pm
Hi Richard, That method may be in his notes. I didn't notice it but didn't read it all that carefully. I did notice the two stages of decomposition with the...
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graveshouse
jasonfriends...
Jan 5, 2006 9:02 pm
Robin and group, Does anyone know of US suppliers/importers for these materials (tanks, compressors, etc)? I like the idea, just not sure how to practically...
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keith ford
kf4tap
Jan 5, 2006 9:39 pm
I don't think anyone is marketing Bate's kit, however for compressors and tanks you can look at Breathing Air Systems on line page. Or look for alternatives. ...
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Tim Jones
gorp27
Jan 6, 2006 1:45 am
No, But if I remember correctly, Bate used "camping gas cylinders" to store his compressed methane. According to the pictures that accompanied the artical the...
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hillmannfamily
Jan 6, 2006 1:52 am
insted of compressing gas it would probly be possoble to build a gassifer whare the wood is not ezposed to the air (fire in a seperate area) and collect,cool...
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Sunytek@...
fullife01
Jan 6, 2006 2:08 am
Indeed, some of the cabs are converted for dual fuel (gasoline or CNG). The device is very simple, but the tank uses almost the whole trunk. The conversion...
