----- Original Message -----

From: Adondlei@...

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:42 PM

Subject: Re: [ZetaAstro] Chemtrails

Oh, look how far behind I am on reading.  Did you see the special on Discovery Channel, David?  If so, what did you think? 

 

After my second winter of being very ill with an upper respiratory infection -- and so many other people I know having been ill -- I am really wondering about this chemtrail issue.  Is there any connection between this stuff the planes are spitting out and our flu's?  Oh, how I would love to see some proof, one way or another.

 

There is a fellow here in Idaho, eastern side, who's a meteorologist and studies this subject on the side.  His site includes lots of pictures and info on various kinds of cloud formations and those things he considers to be anomalies.  Pretty interesting...

 

http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php 

 

adondlei

 

I've had a number of e-mails recently arguing the case for the Global
Warming issue being a load of nonsense.  At first, I rebutted these ideas,
believing that the IPCC and similar institutional scientific bodies around
the world have got it essentially right about man-made global warming.
however, I've been open to other ideas, and have since come to realise that
the whole Global Warming agenda suffers from from acute scientific
difficulties.

1)  Warming does not historically follow carbon dioxide levels.  instead,
CO2 follows temperature.

2)  World temperatures dipped for 4 decads following the post war years,
when the should have risen according to Global Warming theory.

3)  The Troposphere is not warming as much as it should be according to
weather balloon data.

4)  The Sun drives temperatures on Earth, both in terms of direct heating,
and in terms of the mechanism of cloud production vis-a-vis cosmic ray
interaction with atmospheric water vapour.

Given these problems, I've had to reconsider my position on the reality of
global warming.  It seems clear to me that natural conditions, and the
effect of the Sun, have a much greater influence on the temperature of the
planet than man-made greenhouse gas production.  Also, the political
ramifications surrounding these scientific issues are so complicated that
the science cannot be readily distinguished from world political events.



Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd

Author, "The Dark Star"

'The Dark Star Theory'
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk

http://www.myspace.com/andydarkstar

'Cheltenham-Art.com'
http://cheltenham-art.com




----Original Message Follows----
From: "yowusa.com" <info@...>
Reply-To: info@...
To: "Dark Star Planet X" <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:13 -0800


Hi Andy:

I've posted this on the board, because this new article is directly
connected to 2012 PX.

Best, Marshall

MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL COOLING CONSPIRACY

Man-made global warming is not about fossil-fuel driven consumer
societies running selfishly amok. Rather, it is about a decades-old
global conspiracy to save the industrialized world. From what? The
certain devastation of another mini ice age, such as the one
responsible for the Dark Ages - or even worse.

Directed by influential and obscure power brokers, this conspiracy is
directly connected to an arguably noble end, vis-a-vis highly dubious
and divisive means.

Is this article an expose chocked full with the confessions of
disenfranchised co-conspirators? No. Rather, it connects the man-made
global warming dots in a similar manner to the way in which underworld
crime figures are brought to justice via the RICCO statute.

This statute become law during the Nixon administration and allows for
convictions based on patterns of deception and conspiracy. Ergo, when
we apply RICCO logic to man-made global warming, we see an ongoing
pattern of deception and global conspiracy, and so the real truth of
the matter becomes self-evident. One in which powerful capos have
enlisted us all as willing soldiers.

READ AT: http://yowusa.com/earth/2007/earth-0307-11a/1.shtml



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----- Original Message -----

From: Innpkg@...

To: zetaastro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:13 PM

Subject: [ZetaAstro] Fwd: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy

 

I agree completely.  I meant to respond on the other post about
the "chemtrails" but had a bad week and couldn't get back to it.
I've been having major allergy attacks this past week, Sinus Hell.

Yes, I'm feeling the same on the Global Warming subject, that I
cannot completely believe what either side maintains but I lean
toward the "something else going on".

As for industrial pollution, I agree with you, Sol, it is a HUGE
problem, one that's being swept under the rug with diversion tactics
such as political attacks on smokers.  Cigarette smoke doesn't bother
me near as much as automobile exhaust, which is getting to be
unbearable, even in my nice, little city in Southern Idaho.  All my
life I've enjoyed the privilege of getting out and taking walks, but
that is now a thing of the past.  To get clean air I have to go to
the park by the river, and it's far enough away that I have to drive
to get there.  Ha.  Seems counterproductive, doesn't it?  But I
cannot get out and walk in my neighborhood, as there are too many
vehicles creating exhaust.  Sometimes I've walked at night, but not
anymore because of all the dogs.  People let their dogs loose to roam
the streets at night, and I'm not going back out until I've got a can
of pepper spray in my hand as a "just in case".

Another thing that really gets me is how all automobile owners in Ada
County (of which Boise is a part) must have their vehicles tested for
emissions, yet the businesses with the stinky diesel trucks continue
to run up and down the streets of this city with apparently no
limits.  These trucks are the reason why it's hard to breathe, why
you can't just get out and take a nice walk for your health.  My car
is fairly new, and overall, I see most cars in Boise to be in pretty
good shape, compared to other cities I've lived in that have no
emissions testing.  People here are more "environmentally aware", and
we're all paying our emissions testing without bitchin', while one
truck can legally make as much stink as 10 of our cars!

Well, in Adondlei's humble opinion, of course.  I need to research
this and find some "clean air" groups to get involved with.  I mean,
what is more important in this world than clean air and clean water?
I don't take either one for granted, and it seems like everyone would
feel the same way, yet... I rarely hear anyone else bitching on the
subject of air quality in this city.  Hmmm... I dono...

A

--- In ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com, "Sol" <volimerc@...> wrote:
>
> Andy Lloyd wrote:
> > Given these problems, I've had to reconsider my position on the
reality of
> global warming.  It seems clear to me that natural conditions, and
the
> effect of the Sun, have a much greater influence on the temperature
of the
> planet than man-made greenhouse gas production.
>
> Also, the political ramifications surrounding these scientific
issues are so complicated that
> the science cannot be readily distinguished from world political
events.<
>
>
> Those are indeed very wise words. We are witnessing a Great Debate
being carried all over the place about this issue now, a Debate in
which it is no longer possible which side to "believe". Both sides of
the issue seem to be based on "sound scientific argument", and
supported by rational, educated and thinking individuals like Andy.
>
> And the tactics of both sides are very confusing as well.
The "environmentalists" trying to warn everyone of the dangers seem
to be the "good guys" - yet they use the incredibly ugly tactic of
persecuting any scientist holding an opposing argument. It seems
everything about this subject is about as clouded as it gets.
>
> Therefore, in my opinion, the whole ongoing argument is a scam to
cloud the issues and keep people's attention from the very real
danger that everyone is facing - that of Industrial Pollution.
Somehow we don't hear about that anymore, the various "greenhouse
gases" have overtaken the front pages. But there is very real air-
pollution everywhere, coming from the exhausts of automobiles and
smokestacks of factories, which makes it hard for everyone to breathe
and causes most of our cancer. Not to mention the uncountable wastes
being dumped into the oceans on a daily basis, from "tiny" oil-spills
when couplings are connected to tankers and such.
>
> And also, WHERE does all the waste form all our chemical factories
go? Everything we use, every single foodstuff and object in our
house, is made with chemicals today. What happens to all their by-
products, where are they being dumped?
>
> I don't need any scientist to tell me anything about "warming". I
know that when it's the summertime and I stand in the shade of some
trees - I feel cooler than in the sun. But when I stand in the same
spot and there's a road with cars - I feel much hotter than before.
Not only is it much hotter, but those cars are also all emitting
gases which make it difficult for me to breathe. THAT's the warming,
and it IS happening. The forests and groves are being cut down on a
vast scale, and roads and parking lots paved in their stead. What can
the scientists possibly tell me about that, except that I'm right.
>
> And that's our sordid thought for the day (:-).
>
> Sol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Innpkg@...
>   To: zetaastro@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:13 PM
>   Subject: [ZetaAstro] Fwd: Man-made Global Warming is a Global
Cooling Conspiracy
>

Channel 4 documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=global%
2Bwarming%2Bswindle


Very good example explaining how our governments and media are
deceiving us.

Brian (Angel Isle)

----- Original Message -----

From: Adondlei

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:27 PM

Subject: [ZetaAstro] Re: Fwd: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy

I agree completely.  I meant to respond on the other post about
the "chemtrails" but had a bad week and couldn't get back to it. 
I've been having major allergy attacks this past week, Sinus Hell.

Yes, I'm feeling the same on the Global Warming subject, that I
cannot completely believe what either side maintains but I lean
toward the "something else going on". 

As for industrial pollution, I agree with you, Sol, it is a HUGE
problem, one that's being swept under the rug with diversion tactics
such as political attacks on smokers.  Cigarette smoke doesn't bother
me near as much as automobile exhaust, which is getting to be
unbearable, even in my nice, little city in Southern Idaho.  All my
life I've enjoyed the privilege of getting out and taking walks, but
that is now a thing of the past.  To get clean air I have to go to
the park by the river, and it's far enough away that I have to drive
to get there.  Ha.  Seems counterproductive, doesn't it?  But I
cannot get out and walk in my neighborhood, as there are too many
vehicles creating exhaust.  Sometimes I've walked at night, but not
anymore because of all the dogs.  People let their dogs loose to roam
the streets at night, and I'm not going back out until I've got a can
of pepper spray in my hand as a "just in case".

Another thing that really gets me is how all automobile owners in Ada
County (of which Boise is a part) must have their vehicles tested for
emissions, yet the businesses with the stinky diesel trucks continue
to run up and down the streets of this city with apparently no
limits.  These trucks are the reason why it's hard to breathe, why
you can't just get out and take a nice walk for your health.  My car
is fairly new, and overall, I see most cars in Boise to be in pretty
good shape, compared to other cities I've lived in that have no
emissions testing.  People here are more "environmentally aware", and
we're all paying our emissions testing without bitchin', while one
truck can legally make as much stink as 10 of our cars!

Well, in Adondlei's humble opinion, of course.  I need to research
this and find some "clean air" groups to get involved with.  I mean,
what is more important in this world than clean air and clean water?
I don't take either one for granted, and it seems like everyone would
feel the same way, yet... I rarely hear anyone else bitching on the
subject of air quality in this city.  Hmmm... I dono...

A

 

Actually all the arguments are pretty much mute. We're so fu**** on
so many different levels its getting difficult to single out which
particular one will ultimately be the cause of our downfall and that
doesn't include the ones they're making up as they go along.

As for current trends, I'm with Sol, in that I believe our sun is
responsible for increased climate and temperature changes. I don't
need pseudo science to lie about recent new highs, not when history
shows me that the UK cultivated vast grape vineyards back in
medieval times, (yet something which is now being hailed as a new
possibility as if somehow conveniently forgotten), or that the
Thames once froze solid on a regular basis so that you could walk
from one side to the other and hold "annual" winter fairs on the
open ice. Obviously our climate has been both warmer and colder at
various stages in our past and nothing that ever worried man before.

If it goes against all that you have experienced, know or can prove
for yourself then whatever it is must be wrong, unless of course we
somehow shifted realities, imagined the whole thing, deluded
ourselves or that science somehow re-invented itself and the laws of
physics.

For my two penny's worth – I'm already on borrowed time, so
everything else has to be a bonus, right? Enjoy it while it lasts.

Brian (Angel Isle)



--- In ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com, "Sol" <volimerc@...> wrote:
>
> Andy Lloyd wrote:
> > Given these problems, I've had to reconsider my position on the
reality of
> global warming.  It seems clear to me that natural conditions, and
the
> effect of the Sun, have a much greater influence on the
temperature of the
> planet than man-made greenhouse gas production.
>
> Also, the political ramifications surrounding these scientific
issues are so complicated that
> the science cannot be readily distinguished from world political
events.<
>
>
> Those are indeed very wise words. We are witnessing a Great Debate
being carried all over the place about this issue now, a Debate in
which it is no longer possible which side to "believe". Both sides
of the issue seem to be based on "sound scientific argument", and
supported by rational, educated and thinking individuals like Andy.
>
> And the tactics of both sides are very confusing as well.
The "environmentalists" trying to warn everyone of the dangers seem
to be the "good guys" - yet they use the incredibly ugly tactic of
persecuting any scientist holding an opposing argument. It seems
everything about this subject is about as clouded as it gets.
>
> Therefore, in my opinion, the whole ongoing argument is a scam to
cloud the issues and keep people's attention from the very real
danger that everyone is facing - that of Industrial Pollution.
Somehow we don't hear about that anymore, the various "greenhouse
gases" have overtaken the front pages. But there is very real air-
pollution everywhere, coming from the exhausts of automobiles and
smokestacks of factories, which makes it hard for everyone to
breathe and causes most of our cancer. Not to mention the
uncountable wastes being dumped into the oceans on a daily basis,
from "tiny" oil-spills when couplings are connected to tankers and
such.
>
> And also, WHERE does all the waste form all our chemical factories
go? Everything we use, every single foodstuff and object in our
house, is made with chemicals today. What happens to all their by-
products, where are they being dumped?
>
> I don't need any scientist to tell me anything about "warming". I
know that when it's the summertime and I stand in the shade of some
trees - I feel cooler than in the sun. But when I stand in the same
spot and there's a road with cars - I feel much hotter than before.
Not only is it much hotter, but those cars are also all emitting
gases which make it difficult for me to breathe. THAT's the warming,
and it IS happening. The forests and groves are being cut down on a
vast scale, and roads and parking lots paved in their stead. What
can the scientists possibly tell me about that, except that I'm
right.
>
> And that's our sordid thought for the day (:-).
>
> Sol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Innpkg@...
>   To: zetaastro@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:13 PM
>   Subject: [ZetaAstro] Fwd: Man-made Global Warming is a Global
Cooling Conspiracy
>

----- Original Message -----

From: enterpriseuk2002

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:21 PM

Subject: [ZetaAstro] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Channel 4 documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=global%
2Bwarming%2Bswindle


Very good example explaining how our governments and media are
deceiving us.

Brian (Angel Isle)

I suppose this proves it - this is what was done to suddenly marginalize the whole Environmentalist issue. Make it revolve around a moot side point, which has no sound "scientific basis".

 

Everything has been taken down to a debate only about "Climate Change". When in truth it has never been so much about that - but about Overpopulation and Overconsumption, and their attendant Pollution of our biosphere and Decimation of existing life. But nobody is going to be speaking about Overconsumption in this age of Advertising, and the commandment to be fruitful and multiply is still held sacred by most. So they shift everyone's attention by focusing the argument on insoncsequentials which are easily debunked.

 

Sol

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: enterpriseuk2002

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:21 PM

Subject: [ZetaAstro] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Channel 4 documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=global%
2Bwarming%2Bswindle


Very good example explaining how our governments and media are
deceiving us.

Brian (Angel Isle)

----- Original Message -----

From: kevin kelly

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ZetaAstro] The Great Global Warming Swindle

i have to diagree with you all, friends, on all but one point.  the focus on the "cause" of global warming is all too convenient.   in this observers' humble opinion it is not about population.  it is not about green house gasses.  it is not about over consumption, or even cow farts!   i agree that it IS however about the sun and every other body in our solar system that is acting very peculiar and showing signs of their own dramatic climate change...without our help.  it appears that these facts are not in dispute and if so, THAT is where the attention must be directed.

 

sorry 'bout that!

David Wilcock has written an interesting article (blog) that's worth
the read. Click the link if you can't access the links/videos.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid\
=70

The Revealing III: The Mars Bloodline?
Saturday, March 10, 2007 - www.divinecosmos.com

Every now and then there is a "glitch in the Matrix" - and someone in
a position of influence lets the curtain drop, and reveals insider
secrets.

Read the world-exclusive premiere of one of the most amazing examples
of this, three years after it first happened... suggesting that the
Powers That Be not only believe Mars was once inhabited, but think
they are the descendants of this ancient race.



  RUSH SPILLS THE BEANS... AND THE STORY IS IMMEDIATELY 'SANITIZED'

Three years ago, one of our clients alerted us to a stunning Rush
Limbaugh broadcast that aired on March 4, 2004. Had this been covered
by the mainstream media and discussed with any seriousness, it could
well have pierced the veil of UFO secrecy and led to some form of open
disclosure.

We first found out about it on March 15th, and by that point, any
transcript of the show had already been "sanitized" from the Internet.
There were a few places left where you could read it, but only in the
Google cache - and once those had cleared, it was gone for good. Three
years later, the most detailed searches turn up absolutely no record
of it ever having happened.

When we first heard this astonishing broadcast, and read the
transcript, we were really in a bind as to whether we should disclose
it or not. For whatever reason, we decided not to. Such has been the
case with much of the material you are now reading in "The
Revealing".


We've finally decided that now is the time to come forward with this
fascinating story. Our contact heard the show when it was first
broadcast - apparently he liked to keep an eye on the "loyal
opposition" - and he saved a copy of the HTM file from Rush's website
on his hard drive. We received this file in an email on March 15,
2004, along with a digital copy of the audio that weighed in at about
1MB.

Though the HTM file did not include any of the original site graphics,
it did still have a complete transcript of what Rush said. Even
better, there was a link in the original HTM file to a streaming
Windows Media Player version of the audio - and even though the HTM
file would soon disappear from the Internet completely, the audio link
still worked.

Here's a graphic of what the HTM file looks like when we open it into
a browser:



Now here is the really incredible part...

On a whim, we decided to try the audio link in the original HTM file
of the transcript from Rush's website. And even now, three years
later, this audio STILL EXISTS on Rush's server... and it WORKS!!!

At the time of this writing, you can still listen to this broadcast
yourself... straight from the source! Only when you hear the audio
yourself can you make out how distressed Rush is about what he is
saying. There are at least two places where it sounds as if he is in
tears as he is telling the story. It could be that he was severely
warned against talking, but couldn't handle the pressure of having to
keep such explosive information a secret.

We can well assume that he was "visited" after this broadcast, and
given healthy threats about what would happen to him, and his family,
if he ever mentioned it again. Living with such a secret, and such a
threat, may even explain an increase in his drug and alcohol
consumption. His staff obviously were not in the know, and cranked out
the transcript before it had time to be buried down the 'memory
hole'.

We have already used a freeware utility called Net Transport to save a
copy of this file to the hard drive so it doesn't disappear again, and
recommend that you do the same:

http://www.xi-soft.com/default.htm



WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT ANYTHING RUSH LIMBAUGH SAYS?

Why is this story so important? Quite simple. Rush Limbaugh came
forward, on March 4, 2004, and told his listeners that he gained
access to a "highly classified" top-secret document from NASA saying
that Mars was once inhabited with human life, that they destroyed
their planet, some of them survived and migrated to Earth.

Even more incredibly, he implies that NASA has sent secret missions to
Mars and recovered DNA samples from deceased human corpses - and the
DNA from these corpses "compares favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones society here on Earth" - as well as top members of Halliburton,
Enron, WorldCom and Boeing - each of which are companies associated
with the 'Illuminati'.

Yes. If you're thinking that all the dots connect up to an "Illuminati
Bloodline," then you're on the right track, my friend.



CAMERON'S 'TOMB OF JESUS' APPEARS TO BE A FRAUD... PREPPING THE PUBLIC
FOR "THE REVEALING"

What you are about to read may be the deeper, hidden level of the
story of the "Holy Grail" that is probably NOT ever planned for public
disclosure - hence the immediate silencing of Rush Limbaugh, and any
trace of this story, after he spilled the beans. Granted, SOME of the
Illuminati may believe themselves to be descendants of Jesus, as we've
set forth in the earlier sections of this series, but that may only be
a ploy to sell themselves to a gullible public.

Lawrence Gardner recently came forth with a very detailed, lengthy
article, making a strong case that James Cameron's whole argument is
built on lies - the tomb ascribed to Jesus was taken from somewhere
else and then added in, as if it had been discovered in the same tomb,
with a group of coffins whose names - very common for the time -
matched up with the rest of Jesus' family:

http://www.graal.co.uk/thejesusossuary.pdf



Yet, if the public buys into Cameron's story, and enough people
believe it, (with the Da Vinci Code book and film as a foreshadowing
of the eventual disclosure,) they could take the DNA from the tomb,
analyze it and have it "compare favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones society" - exactly as the Gore Report claims they have already
done with DNA from Mars!

Let's not forget that if you've been reading this article since Part
One, you know that the "Illuminati" is a worldwide group, consisting
of those at the top of the power structure, who believe themselves to
be superior to most humans - to the point that they can invoke the so-
called "Divine Right of Kings."

They have been planning to create an economic collapse that would
soften up the public for their rule - ideally in the form of a
"bloodless surrender" - so they can create the "New World Order" that
they have been expecting for so long.

If Rush Limbaugh were to come forward and reveal their innermost
secrets - including how they feel themselves to be the blood
descendants of ancient "Gods" who came to earth - then it could very
well disrupt the timelines of this planned disclosure, and thus would
need to be silenced at all costs. You see, if they are only the
DESCENDANTS of these "Gods," and the "Gods" themselves are still
allegedly flying around in their UFOs, then the elites on Earth can no
longer claim that they are the highest authority.

The best plan would be to associate themselves, through a carefully-
contrived fraud, with the bloodline of the most highly-respected
spiritual person ever to walk the face of the Earth - namely Jesus of
Nazareth. With the planted DNA evidence, they can attempt to make a
case.

What you are reading right now is yet additional evidence that this
plan is nothing more than a fantasy, has far too many holes, and can
never succeed the way they intend it to. There are too many people who
know too much about what is going on, and strongly disapprove of the
whole sorry mess we've now found ourselves in.



THE DRUM ROLL, PLEASE...

Enough with the suspense... by now you're dying to read the transcript,
so let's go for it. Just before we begin, here is the dedicated link
to the audio, where it still rests on Limbaugh's server at the time of
this writing:

http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/clips/04/03/0\
30404_10_gorereport.asx

In case it gets "sanitized" once again, here is our local copy of the
same file:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/030404_10_gorereport.wma

Here is a version of the same audio as an MP3 you can right-click on
and "Save Target As" in Windows to store it on your hard drive:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Gore_Report.mp3

Here is a link to the HTM file that we received:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Cutting_Edge_The_Gore_Report.htm

And now, read the transcript for yourself. We have cut-and-pasted the
text out of the original HTM file, keeping the fonts, colors and sizes
the same, except for the main body text, which we made web-generic so
you can increase or decrease the font size when we get our new website
template installed. We also introduced some new paragraph breaks so
that everything reads better, some graphics for emphasis, and bolded
certain passages that really jump out.

Notice that no one ever said this was a hoax, no apology or retraction
was ever given. As far as you or anyone else knew, up until now, it
never even happened. When you do go back and listen to the audio, you
can hear that Limbaugh is definitely under severe stress, apparently
even tears, as he is sharing this information:



The Gore Report

March 4, 2004

Listen to Rush...
(...talk about the top secret NASA report on Mars)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT 01:33 PM ET

RUSH: As I mentioned recently, ladies and gentlemen, after reviewing
data from one of the Mars Rovers, NASA, big press conference the other
day, concluded that Mars was once drenched with enough water to
"support life in a good, habitable environment." I mean, this is
incredible discovery and NASA is still had to go out there and say
that there's no proof that life existed. All they said was that
conditions were there for there to be life. But this is not all NASA
said, ladies and gentlemen. There's a lot that is not being discussed
here, as a powerful, influential member of the media, I know more than
you do. Especially about this.

I have seen a highly classified report that has not been released
publicly and it probably won't be unless you consider my talking about
it here to be releasing it publicly. It's a top secret report, code
name The Gore Report. It was prepared by scientists from Area 52 in
New Mexico, and they analyzed the Mars data and there's some findings
in this report, and I can understand why they don't want to release
this, and I don't know it all, but I want to pass off what some of The
Gore Report says.

There was life on Mars, that's what NASA is not being up front, there
was life, everybody knows it. We can't be the only people occupying
the universe. It's impossible. Who do we think we are? The only people
God created - sorry, for those of you who don't believe in God - only
people who evolved from apes?

So it's clear that there was life elsewhere and now that NASA has kind
of let the cat out of the bag, if there were habitable conditions up
there we know there was life there. In fact, they found some DNA
evidence up there that compares favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones Society here on earth.

These people were highly industrialized, the Martians, they were
technologically superior, and they were very arrogant people. And they
thought that the power and the force of their existence was all that
was needed to sustain them, and they didn't care a whit about
conservation; they didn't care a whit about preserving anything; they
got rid of everything that was pristine.

In fact, they used the internal combustion engine. They were
globalists; they got rid of all the countries on that planet and they
had just one giant society, and the powerful, rich, just absorbed
everything they needed from the best parts of the planet, used it for
themselves and everybody basically suffered until everybody died out
because what happened was there were no checks and balances.

Probably, I don't know this, probably wasn't any campaign finance
reform to restrict the corruption in their elective circumstances
there, and so special interest groups and multinationals who escaped
taxes by, you know, forming offshore accounts.

There's no coincidence to the fact that they found water, lots of
water where habitable conditions were because it dovetails with what's
in the report about some of these multinationals abandoning their own
countries and locating offshore for all of the nefarious reasons.

They had rain forests. You don't hear about this. They had ancient
rain forests; they had jungles; they had so much oil and gas; they had
reserves out the wazoo.

In fact, one of the things they found on Mars is that it's possible
that there's still some there, tiny little amounts, but it's clear.
You saw the pictures from Mars. I saw the skeletons, at least I saw
the fossils of the skeletons. There were people there, or there were
beings there, but it looked like Pompeii, looked like these people all
died huddled together, and it was just swarmed and in an instant.



Image of preserved bodies from Pompeii volcanic explosion



You know, they were one day there and then gone. So many people living
close together, it has to have been the result of urban sprawl. Nobody
had any space, nobody had any room, and I saw it from the pictures
that they released.


It's clear, ladies and gentlemen. Mars was once the jewel of the solar
system, and it was raped. Mars was raped. This is what NASA knows.
This is what The Gore Report says. Mars was raped by robber barons.
Capitalism, dependence on combustible engines led to global warming;
the ecosystem that sustained everybody was destroyed.

That's why the water they've found is at the equator area, the ice
caps melted, exactly what's happening here, folks, exactly what's
happening here.

These people were advanced. Not everybody on Mars died. This is what's
fascinating about this report. Not everybody on Mars died. Some were
able to flee, some were able to get off the planet. This is what they
can't afford to release.

UFOs, yep, all these sightings, all of these blinking lights, all
these unexplained things, they're real. That's why they're calling
this Area 52.

[DW: Supposedly the different 'areas' correspond to nuclear testing
grounds in Nevada - but I did have one other black-ops contact who
told me that some of these 'areas' are indeed off-planet.]

Those are Martians, escaping the destruction - I think this goes way
back before we were alive. UFOs have been happening all over. It may
well be that the bright star that guided the three wise men was a
UFO.

Tax cuts absolutely were a factor. That's what the offshore thing was
all about. Yeah, of course tax cuts were a factor.

[DW: Notice here that Rush still manages to read his own political
biases into the story. It's not difficult to see that the world's most
powerful elites would have hidden themselves away on a military-
fortified 'offshore' island so they would be much harder to invade or
attack.]

But the elites got off, the elites were able to travel in space. There
weren't very many of them, but they were able to get off. They fled
the planet in time.

The stunning thing about the Mars report, The Gore Report, is that
they're here. These people that destroyed Mars are here, they are on
earth, folks.

They are in America. They work at Halliburton. They worked at Enron.
They worked at WorldCom. They're at Boeing.

They came to America, and The Gore Report clearly illustrates they
have not learned a thing from their experiences on Mars.

The truth is out there. Far, far out there.



END TRANSCRIPT

Read the Article...

(CNN: How much water on Mars?)



So there you have it - complete with the CNN article he linked to at
the end about the discovery of water on Mars.



WASHINGTON DC - A MIRROR OF 'CYDONIA' ON MARS?

To further add to the intrigue around this issue, a 1999 analysis by
Daniel Perez presented an astonishing discovery. If you take the
layout of Washington DC and superimpose it over the Cydonia region of
Mars, by lining up the five-sided pentagon on Mars with the Pentagon
building in Arlington, you discover several precise alignments:




  http://www.startinglinks.net/cydoniaufo/WASHINGTON%20DISTRICT%20OF%20CYDONIA/

Most notably, the location of the Face on Mars corresponds precisely
to where the White House is in Washington DC. Since the Pentagon was
only built recently, this may or may not have been originally intended
in the layout - but when you read the article you can see there are
other features that also match up, which date back to when DC was
first laid out - like the first city of Rosslyn corresponding to the
primary 'city' on the Cydonia plateau.


Unfortunately, the original animated GIF that flips between the layout
of Washington DC and Cydonia no longer works as it did when I first
saw this in 1999. Also, at the moment there is no link that clearly
shows you how there is a perfect circle in the streets of DC to
correspond with the perfectly circular "Tholus" structure on the
surface of Mars, but I remember seeing it when it was first published
and I was blown away by how closely they matched.

We can already see clear evidence of Masonic forethought in the
planning of the streets of DC, as the article shows - entire areas
were laid out specifically to encode hidden symbolism. It follows,
based on this same chain of reasoning, that they might have encoded
more than just the symbols of their own craft into the layout - in the
hopes of creating a mirror of the City of the Gods - "as above, so
below".

This is clearly not a coincidence or accident... it strongly suggests
that the Masons who founded the United States still had ancient,
secret scrolls outlining the Cydonia region of Mars, and decided to
design their capital city in ways that would mirror what they knew
still existed on the 'mother planet'. It also helps to explain why
they would be so keen on covering up any evidence of ruins on Mars or
the Moon - they consider this one of their deepest secrets.



ARE THE 'ANNUNAKI' THE SURVIVORS OF MARS?

The research of Hoagland and his associates has strongly indicated
that Nibiru, the alleged "12th Planet" of Zecharia Sitchin, is
actually Mars. That would mean that all the Internet buzz about the
"Annunaki" - i.e. "Those who from Heaven to Earth Came" - is actually
a story of the survivors of a Martian cataclysm coming to Earth and
genetically enhancing the indigenous ape-men creatures with their own
DNA. This is apparently common knowledge in the insider circles that
Rush Limbaugh's "Gore Report" came from.

Originally the Annunaki combined their DNA with native Earth humans in
the hopes of creating a slave race. Sitchin's voluminous research
(summarized in a more digestible fashion in many of Lloyd Pye's works)
indicates that the 'Annunaki', or 'Nephilim' as they were also called,
bred these slaves in the interest of mining gold - so they could
hopefully create a planet-wide shield for their atmosphere. By
releasing particles of gold into the air they were hoping to reflect
back the Sun's energy and forestall their own "global warming."



JOE MC MONEAGLE: REMOTE VIEWING OF FORMER INHABITANTS OF MARS

Also, Joe Mc Moneagle, who is highly respected for his accuracy in
remote viewing, revealed in his book "Mind Trek" that the inhabitants
of Mars were nearly twice the height of modern humans. We might
ascribe this to their having a smaller-sized planet, and therefore a
weaker field of gravity that would allow the body to grow larger in
size, just like goldfish grow larger in size if you give them a larger
tank.

As I have written about in the CONVERGENCE series on this website,
there is clear evidence that the Earth has been continually expanding
in size over time, and this may account for why the dinosaurs were so
much larger than we are now. In our current gravity these giant
lizards would never be able to move around or even lift their heads -
but on a smaller earth they would have no trouble.

The larger body size of those from Mars, and obviously their vastly
superior technology, could account for many ancient tales of "Giants"
who came to the Earth, and were worshipped as Gods.



IF YOU HAVEN'T TOTALLY RUN SCREAMING YET, OR COLLAPSED FROM SARCASTIC
LAUGHTER...

If you've never encountered any of these concepts before, then you're
probably new to most of this, and there is a lot more reading you can
do if you are interested. You certainly can laugh if you want to, but
what is important for us at this time is that the world's elites
consider this to be very real. Many different sources of information
all line up to tell the same story.

In the next section of The Revealing, coming up soon, we will explore
the further implications of this astonishing 'leak' of information
from the 'Gore Report', and analyze some of the excerpts in more
detail. This is also going to be covered from another angle in our
upcoming article with Richard Hoagland on interplanetary climate
change.

Lastly, two clips recently appeared on YouTube that further exposes
the agendas of the "New World Order" in a form that is humorous and
hard-hitting. We've already recommended that you watch the Aaron Russo
clips in earlier sections of this series, but this is a great summary.
Comedy, as we said before, is a key ingredient in relieving fear, so
we recommend watching these clips:










TO BE CONTINUED...


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To: "Dark Star Planet X" <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
Subject: The Revealing III - The Mars Bloodline?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:11:32 -0700


David Wilcock has written an interesting article (blog) that's worth
the read. Click the link if you can't access the links/videos.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid=70

The Revealing III: The Mars Bloodline?
Saturday, March 10, 2007 - www.divinecosmos.com

Every now and then there is a "glitch in the Matrix" - and someone in
a position of influence lets the curtain drop, and reveals insider
secrets.

Read the world-exclusive premiere of one of the most amazing examples
of this, three years after it first happened... suggesting that the
Powers That Be not only believe Mars was once inhabited, but think
they are the descendants of this ancient race.



RUSH SPILLS THE BEANS... AND THE STORY IS IMMEDIATELY 'SANITIZED'

Three years ago, one of our clients alerted us to a stunning Rush
Limbaugh broadcast that aired on March 4, 2004. Had this been covered
by the mainstream media and discussed with any seriousness, it could
well have pierced the veil of UFO secrecy and led to some form of open
disclosure.

We first found out about it on March 15th, and by that point, any
transcript of the show had already been "sanitized" from the Internet.
There were a few places left where you could read it, but only in the
Google cache - and once those had cleared, it was gone for good. Three
years later, the most detailed searches turn up absolutely no record
of it ever having happened.

When we first heard this astonishing broadcast, and read the
transcript, we were really in a bind as to whether we should disclose
it or not. For whatever reason, we decided not to. Such has been the
case with much of the material you are now reading in "The
Revealing".


We've finally decided that now is the time to come forward with this
fascinating story. Our contact heard the show when it was first
broadcast - apparently he liked to keep an eye on the "loyal
opposition" - and he saved a copy of the HTM file from Rush's website
on his hard drive. We received this file in an email on March 15,
2004, along with a digital copy of the audio that weighed in at about
1MB.

Though the HTM file did not include any of the original site graphics,
it did still have a complete transcript of what Rush said. Even
better, there was a link in the original HTM file to a streaming
Windows Media Player version of the audio - and even though the HTM
file would soon disappear from the Internet completely, the audio link
still worked.

Here's a graphic of what the HTM file looks like when we open it into
a browser:



Now here is the really incredible part...

On a whim, we decided to try the audio link in the original HTM file
of the transcript from Rush's website. And even now, three years
later, this audio STILL EXISTS on Rush's server... and it WORKS!!!

At the time of this writing, you can still listen to this broadcast
yourself... straight from the source! Only when you hear the audio
yourself can you make out how distressed Rush is about what he is
saying. There are at least two places where it sounds as if he is in
tears as he is telling the story. It could be that he was severely
warned against talking, but couldn't handle the pressure of having to
keep such explosive information a secret.

We can well assume that he was "visited" after this broadcast, and
given healthy threats about what would happen to him, and his family,
if he ever mentioned it again. Living with such a secret, and such a
threat, may even explain an increase in his drug and alcohol
consumption. His staff obviously were not in the know, and cranked out
the transcript before it had time to be buried down the 'memory
hole'.

We have already used a freeware utility called Net Transport to save a
copy of this file to the hard drive so it doesn't disappear again, and
recommend that you do the same:

http://www.xi-soft.com/default.htm



WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT ANYTHING RUSH LIMBAUGH SAYS?

Why is this story so important? Quite simple. Rush Limbaugh came
forward, on March 4, 2004, and told his listeners that he gained
access to a "highly classified" top-secret document from NASA saying
that Mars was once inhabited with human life, that they destroyed
their planet, some of them survived and migrated to Earth.

Even more incredibly, he implies that NASA has sent secret missions to
Mars and recovered DNA samples from deceased human corpses - and the
DNA from these corpses "compares favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones society here on Earth" - as well as top members of Halliburton,
Enron, WorldCom and Boeing - each of which are companies associated
with the 'Illuminati'.

Yes. If you're thinking that all the dots connect up to an "Illuminati
Bloodline," then you're on the right track, my friend.



CAMERON'S 'TOMB OF JESUS' APPEARS TO BE A FRAUD... PREPPING THE PUBLIC
FOR "THE REVEALING"

What you are about to read may be the deeper, hidden level of the
story of the "Holy Grail" that is probably NOT ever planned for public
disclosure - hence the immediate silencing of Rush Limbaugh, and any
trace of this story, after he spilled the beans. Granted, SOME of the
Illuminati may believe themselves to be descendants of Jesus, as we've
set forth in the earlier sections of this series, but that may only be
a ploy to sell themselves to a gullible public.

Lawrence Gardner recently came forth with a very detailed, lengthy
article, making a strong case that James Cameron's whole argument is
built on lies - the tomb ascribed to Jesus was taken from somewhere
else and then added in, as if it had been discovered in the same tomb,
with a group of coffins whose names - very common for the time -
matched up with the rest of Jesus' family:

http://www.graal.co.uk/thejesusossuary.pdf



Yet, if the public buys into Cameron's story, and enough people
believe it, (with the Da Vinci Code book and film as a foreshadowing
of the eventual disclosure,) they could take the DNA from the tomb,
analyze it and have it "compare favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones society" - exactly as the Gore Report claims they have already
done with DNA from Mars!

Let's not forget that if you've been reading this article since Part
One, you know that the "Illuminati" is a worldwide group, consisting
of those at the top of the power structure, who believe themselves to
be superior to most humans - to the point that they can invoke the so-
called "Divine Right of Kings."

They have been planning to create an economic collapse that would
soften up the public for their rule - ideally in the form of a
"bloodless surrender" - so they can create the "New World Order" that
they have been expecting for so long.

If Rush Limbaugh were to come forward and reveal their innermost
secrets - including how they feel themselves to be the blood
descendants of ancient "Gods" who came to earth - then it could very
well disrupt the timelines of this planned disclosure, and thus would
need to be silenced at all costs. You see, if they are only the
DESCENDANTS of these "Gods," and the "Gods" themselves are still
allegedly flying around in their UFOs, then the elites on Earth can no
longer claim that they are the highest authority.

The best plan would be to associate themselves, through a carefully-
contrived fraud, with the bloodline of the most highly-respected
spiritual person ever to walk the face of the Earth - namely Jesus of
Nazareth. With the planted DNA evidence, they can attempt to make a
case.

What you are reading right now is yet additional evidence that this
plan is nothing more than a fantasy, has far too many holes, and can
never succeed the way they intend it to. There are too many people who
know too much about what is going on, and strongly disapprove of the
whole sorry mess we've now found ourselves in.



THE DRUM ROLL, PLEASE...

Enough with the suspense... by now you're dying to read the transcript,
so let's go for it. Just before we begin, here is the dedicated link
to the audio, where it still rests on Limbaugh's server at the time of
this writing:

http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/clips/04/03/030404_10_gorereport.asx

In case it gets "sanitized" once again, here is our local copy of the
same file:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/030404_10_gorereport.wma

Here is a version of the same audio as an MP3 you can right-click on
and "Save Target As" in Windows to store it on your hard drive:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Gore_Report.mp3

Here is a link to the HTM file that we received:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Cutting_Edge_The_Gore_Report.htm

And now, read the transcript for yourself. We have cut-and-pasted the
text out of the original HTM file, keeping the fonts, colors and sizes
the same, except for the main body text, which we made web-generic so
you can increase or decrease the font size when we get our new website
template installed. We also introduced some new paragraph breaks so
that everything reads better, some graphics for emphasis, and bolded
certain passages that really jump out.

Notice that no one ever said this was a hoax, no apology or retraction
was ever given. As far as you or anyone else knew, up until now, it
never even happened. When you do go back and listen to the audio, you
can hear that Limbaugh is definitely under severe stress, apparently
even tears, as he is sharing this information:



The Gore Report

March 4, 2004

Listen to Rush...
(...talk about the top secret NASA report on Mars)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT 01:33 PM ET

RUSH: As I mentioned recently, ladies and gentlemen, after reviewing
data from one of the Mars Rovers, NASA, big press conference the other
day, concluded that Mars was once drenched with enough water to
"support life in a good, habitable environment." I mean, this is
incredible discovery and NASA is still had to go out there and say
that there's no proof that life existed. All they said was that
conditions were there for there to be life. But this is not all NASA
said, ladies and gentlemen. There's a lot that is not being discussed
here, as a powerful, influential member of the media, I know more than
you do. Especially about this.

I have seen a highly classified report that has not been released
publicly and it probably won't be unless you consider my talking about
it here to be releasing it publicly. It's a top secret report, code
name The Gore Report. It was prepared by scientists from Area 52 in
New Mexico, and they analyzed the Mars data and there's some findings
in this report, and I can understand why they don't want to release
this, and I don't know it all, but I want to pass off what some of The
Gore Report says.

There was life on Mars, that's what NASA is not being up front, there
was life, everybody knows it. We can't be the only people occupying
the universe. It's impossible. Who do we think we are? The only people
God created - sorry, for those of you who don't believe in God - only
people who evolved from apes?

So it's clear that there was life elsewhere and now that NASA has kind
of let the cat out of the bag, if there were habitable conditions up
there we know there was life there. In fact, they found some DNA
evidence up there that compares favorably to members of the Skull and
Bones Society here on earth.

These people were highly industrialized, the Martians, they were
technologically superior, and they were very arrogant people. And they
thought that the power and the force of their existence was all that
was needed to sustain them, and they didn't care a whit about
conservation; they didn't care a whit about preserving anything; they
got rid of everything that was pristine.

In fact, they used the internal combustion engine. They were
globalists; they got rid of all the countries on that planet and they
had just one giant society, and the powerful, rich, just absorbed
everything they needed from the best parts of the planet, used it for
themselves and everybody basically suffered until everybody died out
because what happened was there were no checks and balances.

Probably, I don't know this, probably wasn't any campaign finance
reform to restrict the corruption in their elective circumstances
there, and so special interest groups and multinationals who escaped
taxes by, you know, forming offshore accounts.

There's no coincidence to the fact that they found water, lots of
water where habitable conditions were because it dovetails with what's
in the report about some of these multinationals abandoning their own
countries and locating offshore for all of the nefarious reasons.

They had rain forests. You don't hear about this. They had ancient
rain forests; they had jungles; they had so much oil and gas; they had
reserves out the wazoo.

In fact, one of the things they found on Mars is that it's possible
that there's still some there, tiny little amounts, but it's clear.
You saw the pictures from Mars. I saw the skeletons, at least I saw
the fossils of the skeletons. There were people there, or there were
beings there, but it looked like Pompeii, looked like these people all
died huddled together, and it was just swarmed and in an instant.



Image of preserved bodies from Pompeii volcanic explosion



You know, they were one day there and then gone. So many people living
close together, it has to have been the result of urban sprawl. Nobody
had any space, nobody had any room, and I saw it from the pictures
that they released.


It's clear, ladies and gentlemen. Mars was once the jewel of the solar
system, and it was raped. Mars was raped. This is what NASA knows.
This is what The Gore Report says. Mars was raped by robber barons.
Capitalism, dependence on combustible engines led to global warming;
the ecosystem that sustained everybody was destroyed.

That's why the water they've found is at the equator area, the ice
caps melted, exactly what's happening here, folks, exactly what's
happening here.

These people were advanced. Not everybody on Mars died. This is what's
fascinating about this report. Not everybody on Mars died. Some were
able to flee, some were able to get off the planet. This is what they
can't afford to release.

UFOs, yep, all these sightings, all of these blinking lights, all
these unexplained things, they're real. That's why they're calling
this Area 52.

[DW: Supposedly the different 'areas' correspond to nuclear testing
grounds in Nevada - but I did have one other black-ops contact who
told me that some of these 'areas' are indeed off-planet.]

Those are Martians, escaping the destruction - I think this goes way
back before we were alive. UFOs have been happening all over. It may
well be that the bright star that guided the three wise men was a
UFO.

Tax cuts absolutely were a factor. That's what the offshore thing was
all about. Yeah, of course tax cuts were a factor.

[DW: Notice here that Rush still manages to read his own political
biases into the story. It's not difficult to see that the world's most
powerful elites would have hidden themselves away on a military-
fortified 'offshore' island so they would be much harder to invade or
attack.]

But the elites got off, the elites were able to travel in space. There
weren't very many of them, but they were able to get off. They fled
the planet in time.

The stunning thing about the Mars report, The Gore Report, is that
they're here. These people that destroyed Mars are here, they are on
earth, folks.

They are in America. They work at Halliburton. They worked at Enron.
They worked at WorldCom. They're at Boeing.

They came to America, and The Gore Report clearly illustrates they
have not learned a thing from their experiences on Mars.

The truth is out there. Far, far out there.



END TRANSCRIPT

Read the Article...

(CNN: How much water on Mars?)



So there you have it - complete with the CNN article he linked to at
the end about the discovery of water on Mars.



WASHINGTON DC - A MIRROR OF 'CYDONIA' ON MARS?

To further add to the intrigue around this issue, a 1999 analysis by
Daniel Perez presented an astonishing discovery. If you take the
layout of Washington DC and superimpose it over the Cydonia region of
Mars, by lining up the five-sided pentagon on Mars with the Pentagon
building in Arlington, you discover several precise alignments:




http://www.startinglinks.net/cydoniaufo/WASHINGTON%20DISTRICT%20OF%20CYDONIA/

Most notably, the location of the Face on Mars corresponds precisely
to where the White House is in Washington DC. Since the Pentagon was
only built recently, this may or may not have been originally intended
in the layout - but when you read the article you can see there are
other features that also match up, which date back to when DC was
first laid out - like the first city of Rosslyn corresponding to the
primary 'city' on the Cydonia plateau.


Unfortunately, the original animated GIF that flips between the layout
of Washington DC and Cydonia no longer works as it did when I first
saw this in 1999. Also, at the moment there is no link that clearly
shows you how there is a perfect circle in the streets of DC to
correspond with the perfectly circular "Tholus" structure on the
surface of Mars, but I remember seeing it when it was first published
and I was blown away by how closely they matched.

We can already see clear evidence of Masonic forethought in the
planning of the streets of DC, as the article shows - entire areas
were laid out specifically to encode hidden symbolism. It follows,
based on this same chain of reasoning, that they might have encoded
more than just the symbols of their own craft into the layout - in the
hopes of creating a mirror of the City of the Gods - "as above, so
below".

This is clearly not a coincidence or accident... it strongly suggests
that the Masons who founded the United States still had ancient,
secret scrolls outlining the Cydonia region of Mars, and decided to
design their capital city in ways that would mirror what they knew
still existed on the 'mother planet'. It also helps to explain why
they would be so keen on covering up any evidence of ruins on Mars or
the Moon - they consider this one of their deepest secrets.



ARE THE 'ANNUNAKI' THE SURVIVORS OF MARS?

The research of Hoagland and his associates has strongly indicated
that Nibiru, the alleged "12th Planet" of Zecharia Sitchin, is
actually Mars. That would mean that all the Internet buzz about the
"Annunaki" - i.e. "Those who from Heaven to Earth Came" - is actually
a story of the survivors of a Martian cataclysm coming to Earth and
genetically enhancing the indigenous ape-men creatures with their own
DNA. This is apparently common knowledge in the insider circles that
Rush Limbaugh's "Gore Report" came from.

Originally the Annunaki combined their DNA with native Earth humans in
the hopes of creating a slave race. Sitchin's voluminous research
(summarized in a more digestible fashion in many of Lloyd Pye's works)
indicates that the 'Annunaki', or 'Nephilim' as they were also called,
bred these slaves in the interest of mining gold - so they could
hopefully create a planet-wide shield for their atmosphere. By
releasing particles of gold into the air they were hoping to reflect
back the Sun's energy and forestall their own "global warming."



JOE MC MONEAGLE: REMOTE VIEWING OF FORMER INHABITANTS OF MARS

Also, Joe Mc Moneagle, who is highly respected for his accuracy in
remote viewing, revealed in his book "Mind Trek" that the inhabitants
of Mars were nearly twice the height of modern humans. We might
ascribe this to their having a smaller-sized planet, and therefore a
weaker field of gravity that would allow the body to grow larger in
size, just like goldfish grow larger in size if you give them a larger
tank.

As I have written about in the CONVERGENCE series on this website,
there is clear evidence that the Earth has been continually expanding
in size over time, and this may account for why the dinosaurs were so
much larger than we are now. In our current gravity these giant
lizards would never be able to move around or even lift their heads -
but on a smaller earth they would have no trouble.

The larger body size of those from Mars, and obviously their vastly
superior technology, could account for many ancient tales of "Giants"
who came to the Earth, and were worshipped as Gods.




=== message truncated ===

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Silverman

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:32 AM

Subject: RE: [ZetaAstro] High Tea in The Gobi

Sol et al,

I have thoroughly enjoyed the weavings and wonderings of Zeta Astro these past weeks.  So much to consider, especially the Dark Star thread and its time correspondence with the Mayan calendar, the IRAS change of mission, the Antarctic telescope project,  the concept that our ancient gods may be advanced beings/visitors, that the Holy Grail may exist and be a powerful relic from an alien culture, that Moses got help parting those far too malleable Red Seas and what about Atlantis and other lost realms?  Perhaps the notion that myth and legend begin with some kernel of truth point to all that we can only guess about the approaching Nibiru.  It may well be that this pass will be quite benign, perhaps unlike other times of devastation during its long cycle on its odd orbit.  We can hope.

 

I am glad we can share such things together as far from mainstream influence as one can get in these times (outside of a conclave in the Gobi desert).  How refreshing.

Sol, your musings of inner evolution and communal psychic growth being our best defense are indeed where we should focus our efforts.  I do agree with you that the way things are seems too ingrained to expect much will change any time soon – only change on a revolutionary scale would be of much use in our lifetimes, or our childrens.

As long as money is what we trade in, the inconvenient dark side of our product shall be largely ignored to our peril.

 

My wise girlfriend Janet said to me last week that we live in an age where more knowledge has been lost than any other time  (think of all those fried hard drives).

Hard to believe, but we know there once were great repositories from the ancient world and later ages that are long lost due to the evils of war, greed, the church, all performed as a policy of enforced ignorance through the ages.

Perhaps burned to ash in our civilizations’ dark past were salient writings that could have long before now warned us of onrushing doom, the existence of lost civilizations, or the means to thwart such a disaster as some feel the Dark Star theory represents. 

We certainly know that centuries elapsed while Europeans were truly in a dark age, bereft of much ancient wisdom, including medicine, mathematics, science, as these things were denied by those who held power... until such was recovered in later times.  How much further might we have traveled by now (within ourselves and outside the Earth sphere) had our ancestors been allowed their quests for truth without fear of annihilation?  It may be that in the next cycle such questions need not be asked.

 

It may be this time-cycle for mankind is really about finding the means to uncover and preserve truth for a time yet unseen.  Keep it flowing and plant seeds where you can.     I will earnestly look forward to more from you all. 

And now, the violins… 

 

Milo

 

 

Yes, Michael, you are quite right, that programme  ("The Great Global
Warming Swindle") was very interesting indeed regarding taking a more
sceptical stance about man-made global warming.  However, I have to add that
the programme did not provide a balanced picture, in that there was no one
invited onto the programme to counter the arguments set out there.  So one
needs to be cautious, and I am grateful for the points you have made here.

I was attracted to the arguments the programme set out for a couple of
reasons.  Several of the contributing experts are people I already hold in
high regard, like Nigel Calder.  It is true to say that these chaps are not
funded directly or indirectly by the big multi-nationals, which is a claim
that has been made repeatedly and erroneously in the media.  That made me
think twice about my stance on this issue.

Then there's the argument about Global Warming Heretics being sidelined in
terms of their careers.  I caught an example fo this only this morning!  On
the Today programme on Radio 4, the leader of the Opposition, David Cameron,
was being interviewed by James Naughtie regarding the Conservative's Party's
stance on Environmentalism, and Global Warming in particular.  The issue of
John Redwood's personal scpeticism was raised.  John Redwood is part of the
barmy right wing of the Tory party, but is is part of Cameron's team in the
field of economic reform.  Jim Naughtie was pressurising Cameron to distance
himself from Redwood on account of Redwood's heretical stance on Global
Warming.  Cameron seemed very uncomfortable with this, and I would predict
that Redwood will quickly fall from grace.

I am open-minded on this whole issue.  I an very keen on environmental
issues, and the need to develop along greener lines.  We have a
responsibility to our planet.  But my studies in the field of astronomy and
planetary science, and also the Sun's cycles, leave open doubt as to whether
the current warming trend on our planet can be specifically laid at the door
of humanity's industrial progress.

Being rather maverick by nature, it is likely that the more my eyes open to
the witch-hunts seemingly taking part when people question what is now fully
accepted scientific truth and fact, the more I'm likely to feel
uncormfortable with the whole political movement towards a radical re-shake
of the global economy.  I'm almost opposite John Redwood in my political
leanings, but I'll feel very sympathetic with him if he now loses his job
over this!




Many thanks,

Andy Lloyd

Author, "The Dark Star"

'The Dark Star Theory'
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk

http://www.myspace.com/andydarkstar

'Cheltenham-Art.com'
http://cheltenham-art.com




----Original Message Follows----
From: "Michael Daw" <michael.daw@...>
Reply-To: "michael.daw@..." <michael.daw@...>
To: "andy3751@..." <andy3751@...> , "info@..."
<info@...> , "dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com"
<dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:48:43 +0000

Andy,

Your arguments sound very similar to those offered by the Channel 4
programme, The Great Global Warming Swindle, which showed just how powerful
television can be as a tool of propaganda. It's too early to start leaving
those lights on!

  > 1)  Warming does not historically follow carbon dioxide
  > levels.  instead,
  > CO2 follows temperature.

Historically this may have been true; however, this doesn't mean that CO2
isn't a factor in warming the planet. This century, humans have put a huge
amount of CO2 into the atmosphere so that the last time there was this much
CO2 was 250 million years ago when the planet was so hot that the only place
abundant life could thrive was in the Antarctic, which supported rainforests
and dinosaurs.

  >
  > 2)  World temperatures dipped for 4 decads following the post
  > war years,
  > when the should have risen according to Global Warming theory.

CO2 is obviously not the only thing that affects temperature. The effect of
global warming has been dampened by particulate emissions and aerosol
pollution. This is known as global dimming and has the effect of slowing the
warming down. Note that at the end of these 4 decades when the temperature
started to go up again was in the mid-70s when Clean Air acts began to be
enacted in the Western world. As we act to further prevent particulate
emissions we may actually cause global warming to accelerate even further
and into even more frightening realms.

  >
  > 3)  The Troposphere is not warming as much as it should be
  > according to
  > weather balloon data.

This is not true. Claims of this are based on data that has now been shown
to be false.

  >
  > 4)  The Sun drives temperatures on Earth, both in terms of
  > direct heating,
  > and in terms of the mechanism of cloud production vis-a-vis cosmic ray
  > interaction with atmospheric water vapour.

Whilst graphs that correlate solar activity and Earth temperature may look
convincing, the correlation disappears after about 1980. The C4 programme
was misleading in that the graph it showed that was supposed to prove this
point stopped at 1980. If they had continued to the present day, the
correlation would disappear.

For more on all this, have a look at
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-talk-to-global-warming-sceptic.\
html.

It's also worth looking at this letter from one of the scientists who
actually appeared in the programme and who is *not* happy!

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/#comment-27434

Mike

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com
  > [mailto:dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Z
  > Sent: 11 March 2007 11:38
  > To: info@...; dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: RE: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
  >
  >
  > I've had a number of e-mails recently arguing the case for the Global
  > Warming issue being a load of nonsense.  At first, I rebutted
  > these ideas,
  > believing that the IPCC and similar institutional scientific
  > bodies around
  > the world have got it essentially right about man-made global warming.
  > however, I've been open to other ideas, and have since come
  > to realise that
  > the whole Global Warming agenda suffers from from acute scientific
  > difficulties.
  >
  > 1)  Warming does not historically follow carbon dioxide
  > levels.  instead,
  > CO2 follows temperature.
  >
  > 2)  World temperatures dipped for 4 decads following the post
  > war years,
  > when the should have risen according to Global Warming theory.
  >
  > 3)  The Troposphere is not warming as much as it should be
  > according to
  > weather balloon data.
  >
  > 4)  The Sun drives temperatures on Earth, both in terms of
  > direct heating,
  > and in terms of the mechanism of cloud production vis-a-vis cosmic ray
  > interaction with atmospheric water vapour.
  >
  > Given these problems, I've had to reconsider my position on
  > the reality of
  > global warming.  It seems clear to me that natural conditions, and the
  > effect of the Sun, have a much greater influence on the
  > temperature of the
  > planet than man-made greenhouse gas production.  Also, the political
  > ramifications surrounding these scientific issues are so
  > complicated that
  > the science cannot be readily distinguished from world
  > political events.
  >
  >
  >
  > Many thanks,
  >
  > Andy Lloyd
  >
  > Author, "The Dark Star"
  >
  > 'The Dark Star Theory'
  > http://www.darkstar1.co.uk
  >
  > http://www.myspace.com/andydarkstar
  >
  > 'Cheltenham-Art.com'
  > http://cheltenham-art.com
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > ----Original Message Follows----
  > From: "yowusa.com" <info@...>
  > Reply-To: info@...
  > To: "Dark Star Planet X" <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
  > Subject: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
  > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:13 -0800
  >
  >
  > Hi Andy:
  >
  > I've posted this on the board, because this new article is directly
  > connected to 2012 PX.
  >
  > Best, Marshall
  >
  > MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL COOLING CONSPIRACY
  >
  > Man-made global warming is not about fossil-fuel driven consumer
  > societies running selfishly amok. Rather, it is about a decades-old
  > global conspiracy to save the industrialized world. From what? The
  > certain devastation of another mini ice age, such as the one
  > responsible for the Dark Ages - or even worse.
  >
  > Directed by influential and obscure power brokers, this conspiracy is
  > directly connected to an arguably noble end, vis-a-vis highly dubious
  > and divisive means.
  >
  > Is this article an expose chocked full with the confessions of
  > disenfranchised co-conspirators? No. Rather, it connects the man-made
  > global warming dots in a similar manner to the way in which underworld
  > crime figures are brought to justice via the RICCO statute.
  >
  > This statute become law during the Nixon administration and allows for
  > convictions based on patterns of deception and conspiracy. Ergo, when
  > we apply RICCO logic to man-made global warming, we see an ongoing
  > pattern of deception and global conspiracy, and so the real truth of
  > the matter becomes self-evident. One in which powerful capos have
  > enlisted us all as willing soldiers.
  >
  > READ AT: http://yowusa.com/earth/2007/earth-0307-11a/1.shtml
  >
  >
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Earlier today I watched an interview with Al Gore on channel 4 where
the presenter brought up the facts of "The Great Global Warming
Swindle." Gore did not know how to respond despite acknowledging the
work of these same scientist. Instead he blustered on about how the
increased Co2 emissions would only worsen "if" it was proved that
the increased temperatures were due to solar activity. He totally
ignored all the facts about Co2 being the result of temperature
changes and not the cause; the fact that we as humans contribute a
fraction of Co2 greenhouse gasses and all the evidence showing the
exact opposite during times of greater industrial pollution.
Referring to a "majority," scientific following that had assured him
that their data was irrefutable.

Gore is simply another mouthpiece pushing yet another "popular"
agenda that will create more wealth for the rich and stifle the poor
into making them even more reliant in order to keep them permanently
buried in the dark ages. As the program pointed out there is a lot
of power and money to be made from this new "scare" and now the
domino's have begun to fall there is nothing anyone can do to stop
the inevitable knock on effect as each enterprising new piece gets
caught up in the predictable commotion.

Fear, ignorance and distraction are fundamental in preventing human
evolution and have been since the dawn of present social ideology.
What we are witnessing is the culmination of a millennia of
practised arts, specifically illusion and deception, that have
confused the majority to such a degree that they can no longer see
or distinguish the lies and fabrication from the real or the truth,
although there are good indications that their current methods are
beginning to backfire.

As for "Andy's" comments on Cameron he is simply deluding himself if
he believes that any new Prime Minister or taxation is going to stop
Co2 or indeed any pollution in a society based on capitalism. What I
find most surprising is that "big business" has remained silent so
far. (And remember it is big business that has and does put these
people in office so they are not very likely to agree to any
restrictions that will prevent their pursuit of the "almighty buck,"
regardless of any President, Premier or Prime Minister.)
The "manmade Co2" scenario would mean that big business will suffer,
although the only real, likely consequences of what is being
proposed will be that the government raises even more funding while
its people once again find themselves worrying about the extra cash
needed to travel from A to B, fuel their homes, clothe themselves or
fill their stomach's.

Here in the UK you can now buy your own wind turbines, but in most
cases the people who have were refused permission by local councils
to install their £1500 equipment because of proximity to the
property, size, noise and aesthetic value, what a joke. Another
folly we currently have is by fining people for smoking cigarettes
in certain "open-air" public places, where smokers are now
ostracised for their habit as if somehow responsible for causing
pollution, although I'm damn sure I'd sooner suck on a tobacco stick
for half an hour than any car exhaust for even a fraction of that
time. Take a good look at the proposals and solutions on offer and
it becomes pretty clear what the real agenda is behind this
new "scenario".

No, the petrochemical industries are not going to relinquish their
stranglehold until every last drop of oil has been drained, so any
measures we see will be half-arsed attempts aimed at our expense. We
are just as likely to see more radioactive pollution as nuclear
power stations replace coal and oil based systems, more degradation
of the environment as forests are torn down and replaced by over
farmed vegetable based replacements, but only those countries who
can afford, manipulate or are allowed to have these alternatives,
while the third world continues to burn fossil fuels to warm and
light their homes and cook their food.

The world is going "looney tunes" and it's going to get a whole lot
crazier, "that's all folks."

Brian (Angel Isle)



--- In ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com, Innpkg@... wrote:
>
> Andy's  response to the TV program
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> email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at
> http://www.aol.com.
>
>
> Yes, Michael, you are quite right, that programme  ("The Great
Global
> Warming Swindle") was very interesting indeed regarding taking a
more
> sceptical stance about man-made global warming.  However, I have
to add that
> the programme did not provide a balanced picture, in that there
was no one
> invited onto the programme to counter the arguments set out
there.  So one
> needs to be cautious, and I am grateful for the points you have
made here.
>
> I was attracted to the arguments the programme set out for a
couple of
> reasons.  Several of the contributing experts are people I already
hold in
> high regard, like Nigel Calder.  It is true to say that these
chaps are not
> funded directly or indirectly by the big multi-nationals, which is
a claim
> that has been made repeatedly and erroneously in the media.  That
made me
> think twice about my stance on this issue.
>
> Then there's the argument about Global Warming Heretics being
sidelined in
> terms of their careers.  I caught an example fo this only this
morning!  On
> the Today programme on Radio 4, the leader of the Opposition,
David Cameron,
> was being interviewed by James Naughtie regarding the
Conservative's Party's
> stance on Environmentalism, and Global Warming in particular.  The
issue of
> John Redwood's personal scpeticism was raised.  John Redwood is
part of the
> barmy right wing of the Tory party, but is is part of Cameron's
team in the
> field of economic reform.  Jim Naughtie was pressurising Cameron
to distance
> himself from Redwood on account of Redwood's heretical stance on
Global
> Warming.  Cameron seemed very uncomfortable with this, and I would
predict
> that Redwood will quickly fall from grace.
>
> I am open-minded on this whole issue.  I an very keen on
environmental
> issues, and the need to develop along greener lines.  We have a
> responsibility to our planet.  But my studies in the field of
astronomy and
> planetary science, and also the Sun's cycles, leave open doubt as
to whether
> the current warming trend on our planet can be specifically laid
at the door
> of humanity's industrial progress.
>
> Being rather maverick by nature, it is likely that the more my
eyes open to
> the witch-hunts seemingly taking part when people question what is
now fully
> accepted scientific truth and fact, the more I'm likely to feel
> uncormfortable with the whole political movement towards a radical
re-shake
> of the global economy.  I'm almost opposite John Redwood in my
political
> leanings, but I'll feel very sympathetic with him if he now loses
his job
> over this!
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Andy Lloyd
>
> Author, "The Dark Star"
>
> 'The Dark Star Theory'
> http://www.darkstar1.co.uk
>
> http://www.myspace.com/andydarkstar
>
> 'Cheltenham-Art.com'
> http://cheltenham-art.com
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Michael Daw" <michael.daw@...>
> Reply-To: "michael.daw@..." <michael.daw@...>
> To: "andy3751@..." <andy3751@...> , "info@..."
> <info@...> , "dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com"
> <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:48:43 +0000
>
> Andy,
>
> Your arguments sound very similar to those offered by the Channel
4
> programme, The Great Global Warming Swindle, which showed just how
powerful
> television can be as a tool of propaganda. It's too early to start
leaving
> those lights on!
>
>  > 1)  Warming does not historically follow carbon dioxide
>  > levels.  instead,
>  > CO2 follows temperature.
>
> Historically this may have been true; however, this doesn't mean
that CO2
> isn't a factor in warming the planet. This century, humans have
put a huge
> amount of CO2 into the atmosphere so that the last time there was
this much
> CO2 was 250 million years ago when the planet was so hot that the
only place
> abundant life could thrive was in the Antarctic, which supported
rainforests
> and dinosaurs.
>
>  >
>  > 2)  World temperatures dipped for 4 decads following the post
>  > war years,
>  > when the should have risen according to Global Warming theory.
>
> CO2 is obviously not the only thing that affects temperature. The
effect of
> global warming has been dampened by particulate emissions and
aerosol
> pollution. This is known as global dimming and has the effect of
slowing the
> warming down. Note that at the end of these 4 decades when the
temperature
> started to go up again was in the mid-70s when Clean Air acts
began to be
> enacted in the Western world. As we act to further prevent
particulate
> emissions we may actually cause global warming to accelerate even
further
> and into even more frightening realms.
>
>  >
>  > 3)  The Troposphere is not warming as much as it should be
>  > according to
>  > weather balloon data.
>
> This is not true. Claims of this are based on data that has now
been shown
> to be false.
>
>  >
>  > 4)  The Sun drives temperatures on Earth, both in terms of
>  > direct heating,
>  > and in terms of the mechanism of cloud production vis-a-vis
cosmic ray
>  > interaction with atmospheric water vapour.
>
> Whilst graphs that correlate solar activity and Earth temperature
may look
> convincing, the correlation disappears after about 1980. The C4
programme
> was misleading in that the graph it showed that was supposed to
prove this
> point stopped at 1980. If they had continued to the present day,
the
> correlation would disappear.
>
> For more on all this, have a look at
> http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-talk-to-global-
warming-sceptic.html.
>
> It's also worth looking at this letter from one of the scientists
who
> actually appeared in the programme and who is *not* happy!
>
>
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/#comme
nt-27434
>
> Mike
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com
>  > [mailto:dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Z
>  > Sent: 11 March 2007 11:38
>  > To: info@...; dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com
>  > Subject: RE: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling
Conspiracy
>  >
>  >
>  > I've had a number of e-mails recently arguing the case for the
Global
>  > Warming issue being a load of nonsense.  At first, I rebutted
>  > these ideas,
>  > believing that the IPCC and similar institutional scientific
>  > bodies around
>  > the world have got it essentially right about man-made global
warming.
>  > however, I've been open to other ideas, and have since come
>  > to realise that
>  > the whole Global Warming agenda suffers from from acute
scientific
>  > difficulties.
>  >
>  > 1)  Warming does not historically follow carbon dioxide
>  > levels.  instead,
>  > CO2 follows temperature.
>  >
>  > 2)  World temperatures dipped for 4 decads following the post
>  > war years,
>  > when the should have risen according to Global Warming theory.
>  >
>  > 3)  The Troposphere is not warming as much as it should be
>  > according to
>  > weather balloon data.
>  >
>  > 4)  The Sun drives temperatures on Earth, both in terms of
>  > direct heating,
>  > and in terms of the mechanism of cloud production vis-a-vis
cosmic ray
>  > interaction with atmospheric water vapour.
>  >
>  > Given these problems, I've had to reconsider my position on
>  > the reality of
>  > global warming.  It seems clear to me that natural conditions,
and the
>  > effect of the Sun, have a much greater influence on the
>  > temperature of the
>  > planet than man-made greenhouse gas production.  Also, the
political
>  > ramifications surrounding these scientific issues are so
>  > complicated that
>  > the science cannot be readily distinguished from world
>  > political events.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Many thanks,
>  >
>  > Andy Lloyd
>  >
>  > Author, "The Dark Star"
>  >
>  > 'The Dark Star Theory'
>  > http://www.darkstar1.co.uk
>  >
>  > http://www.myspace.com/andydarkstar
>  >
>  > 'Cheltenham-Art.com'
>  > http://cheltenham-art.com
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: "yowusa.com" <info@...>
>  > Reply-To: info@...
>  > To: "Dark Star Planet X" <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
>  > Subject: Man-made Global Warming is a Global Cooling Conspiracy
>  > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:22:13 -0800
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi Andy:
>  >
>  > I've posted this on the board, because this new article is
directly
>  > connected to 2012 PX.
>  >
>  > Best, Marshall
>  >
>  > MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL COOLING CONSPIRACY
>  >
>  > Man-made global warming is not about fossil-fuel driven consumer
>  > societies running selfishly amok. Rather, it is about a decades-
old
>  > global conspiracy to save the industrialized world. From what?
The
>  > certain devastation of another mini ice age, such as the one
>  > responsible for the Dark Ages - or even worse.
>  >
>  > Directed by influential and obscure power brokers, this
conspiracy is
>  > directly connected to an arguably noble end, vis-a-vis highly
dubious
>  > and divisive means.
>  >
>  > Is this article an expose chocked full with the confessions of
>  > disenfranchised co-conspirators? No. Rather, it connects the
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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Silverman

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:46 PM

Subject: RE: [ZetaAstro] Re: High Tea in The Gobi

Sol,

You are a crazy MoFo commie.  I knew you were one of them Reds. 

Somebody notify Edgar J – there’s a madman loose.  HeHe ! 

I find much of what you say thoughtful, but a bit beyond what I had in mind. 

I think our problem is that we feel a need to accumulate stuff, in the name of

Wealth, to gain “power” and as part of a survival instinct.  When this becomes more

important to us than being a part of a supportive community where all can live happy,

healthy and wise, it leads us away from a well grounded ethos and I wonder if

people in this fast food world stop to wonder about what is Just in their average daily dealings.

Clearly a village where all have a vital role, feel a part of the whole, give before

taking is what we should want in a peaceful world, but we rarely work toward this end with conviction of success. 

There is simply too much greed and self-absorption in the world.

The effort required in the wealth instinct is self replicating, one can hardly stop, no matter

who they might Step on to get their “share”. 

The thing I do like about trading is that we can focus on product of our hands and minds,

not pay checks, scores, mutual funds or stock options. 

In my work I find artists and musicians seek me out to help them, but often they are

even more destitute than I. 

As a result I have often provided my psychedelic lighting services

In trade for tickets to shows or games I wish to attend, or in exchange for the

Art of those whom I am supporting.  Such is done as an exchange between equals,

but is nonetheless barter, the oldest form of trade and commerce.  Not such a bad practice,

me thinks.  We just need more exchanges done where one side is not trying to get the better

of the other, but instead looking for a fair trade that both deem to be good. 

Wow, listen to me while I am bidding on an Ebay auction trying to scam a great deal on a widget

to replace the one that I fried at my last gig.

Ahh, such turmoil.

Trade in its simplest form is fine with me.  Complicate with greed and yes, its close cousin competition

and we begin to get those pesky imbalances and then the notion of just and fair trade deteriorate. 

Unfortunately I think this version of humankind can not easily do away with such.  Trade itself is an

engine that perpetuates product, creativity, human exchanges and all sort of commerce. 

The problem isn’t trade, but the traders.

Enlightened caring people can trade for their own good, the good of their trading partners and yes,

for society and its long term benefit, if their moral imperative causes them to ask themselves a simple

question:  Is this trade a good and fair trade ?

Perhaps our best hope is that someday those who favor fair trade will outnumber those

Who laugh at such idealism. 

Adios.

Milo 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: kevin kelly

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:05 PM

Subject: Re: [ZetaAstro] Fwd: The Revealing III - The Mars Bloodline?

 

david and gang,

 

confession time!  as an evil conservative and limbaugh fan (i find he agrees with me a lot  (-:   hope that doen't lessen me in anyones eyes!)  i can shed some light on this.

 

  that segment is, a least veiled satire!  the tipoff is the "name" of the top secret report that he refers to...the gore report!  written by area 51 scientists??  too funny!  i remember listening to this when it first came out and thought it was very funny.  and i laughed again this morning.  now, i am not addressing his beliefs.  he may well be on our side of the fence.  but when you listen to the segment his tongue could not be any further into his cheek! 

 

i don't believe any transcripts were sanitized.  i imagine that is conspiracy fodder.  on the other hand limbaugh has the largest radio audience, 20 million per week in the usa.  and thats not including the worldwide web audience.  so, from a conspiracy standpoint its kinda fun to think that someone may have dropped a bug in his ear to "float the mars trial balloon" using parody.  not likely, tho. i had forgotten the bit about the skull and bones/haliburton DNA match! 

 

great stuff!

 

Innpkg@... wrote:

Some interesting stuff about Rush Limbaugh.  Could this be true?

I posted this at another group about 2 months ago at another group. A
new posting coming soon from another source...

Most are familiar with this first article, but if not please read this
concerning previous Solar System changes;

http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/global/planetophysical.html

PLANETOPHYSICAL STATE OF THE EARTH AND LIFE
By DR. ALEXEY N. DMITRIEV

Current PlanetoPhysical alterations of the Earth are becoming
irreversible.
Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by
highly
charged material and energetic non-uniformity's in anisotropic
interstellar
space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our Solar
System. This
"donation" of energy is producing hybrid processes and excited energy
states in
all planets, as well as the Sun. Effects here on Earth are to be found
in the
acceleration of the magnetic pole shift, in the vertical and
horizontal ozone
content distribution, and in the increased frequency and magnitude of
significant catastrophic climatic events. There is growing probability
that we
are moving into a rapid temperature instability period similar to the
one that
took place 10,000 years ago. The adaptive responses of the biosphere,
and
humanity, to these new conditions may lead to a total global revision
of the
range of species and life on Earth. It is only through a deep
understanding of the fundamental changes taking place in the natural
environment surrounding us that politicians, and citizens a like, will
be able
to achieve balance with the renewing flow of PlanetoPhysical states
and
processes.

I've put this "update" together though there's certainly more info out
there.
Newer Contributions are Welcome...

Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

And here;

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html
Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 09 October 2002
01:25 p.m. ET
In what is largely a reversal of an August announcement, astronomers
today
said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as
it moves
farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit.

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2003/17/text/
Brighter Neptune Suggests a Planetary Change of Seasons
Springtime is blooming on Neptune! This might sound like an oxymoron
because
Neptune is the farthest and coldest of the major planets. But NASA
Hubble Space
Telescope observations are revealing an increase in Neptune's
brightness in the
southern hemisphere, which is considered a harbinger of seasonal
change, say
astronomers.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/triton-0715.html
Evidence of global warming seen on Neptune's largest moon
Deborah Halber, News Office
July 15, 1998

We're not the only ones experiencing global warming. An MIT researcher
has
reported that observations obtained by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope
and
ground-based instruments reveal that Neptune's largest moon, Triton,
seems to
have heated up significantly since the Voyager space probe visited it
in 1989.
The warming trend is causing part of Triton's surface of frozen
nitrogen to turn
into gas, thus making its thin atmosphere denser.

New Images Reveal Clouds on Planet Uranus (Unusual weather = global
warming?)
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/uranus_images_041110.html
New Images Reveal Clouds on Planet Uranus
By SPACE.com Staff
posted: 10 November 2004
09:16 am ET
New images of the planet Uranus reveal more diversity in cloud
features than
ever seen before.

The new images, from the Keck Telescope in Hawaii, provide insight
into some
of the most enigmatic weather in the solar system, researchers said
today at a
meeting of the Division for Planetary Sciences of the American
Astronomical
Society. "It's weird behavior that hasn't been recognized before on
Uranus,"
Sromovsky said. "It's similar to what's been seen on Neptune, although
there the
oscillation is much more rapid.

http://www.gb.nrao.edu/epo/sol_sys/rsat.html
Radio data show that Saturn is warmer than astronomers predicted. What
is
causing this extra heat? One idea is that Saturn is still contracting.
As gas is
compressed into a smaller volume, heat is produced.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0502/04saturnspot/
Saturn has strange hot spot
W. M. KECK OBSERVATORY NEWS RELEASE
Posted: February 4, 2005
Astronomers using the Keck I telescope in Hawaii are learning much
more about
a strange, thermal "hot spot" on Saturn that is located at the tip of
the
planet's south pole. In what the team is calling the sharpest thermal
views of
Saturn ever taken from the ground, the new set of infrared images
suggest a warm
polar vortex at Saturn's south pole -- the first to ever be discovered
in the
solar system. This warm polar cap is home to a distinct compact hot
spot,
believed to contain the highest measured temperatures on Saturn. A
paper
announcing the results appears in the Feb. 4th issue of "Science."

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/04/21_jupiter.shtml
Researcher predicts global climate change on Jupiter as giant planet's
spots
disappear
By Sarah Yang, Media Relations 21 April 2004
BERKELEY - If a University of California, Berkeley, physicist's vision
of
Jupiter is correct, the giant planet will be in for a major global
temperature
shift over the next decade as most of its large vortices disappear.

And this;

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html
New Storm on Jupiter Hints at Climate Change
By Sara Goudarzi
Staff Writer
posted: 04 May 2006
01:00 pm ET

A storm is brewing half a billion miles away and in a rare event,
astronomers
get to watch it closely. Jupiter is growing a new red spot and the
Hubble Space
Telescope is photographing the scene. Backyard astronomers have been
following
the action, too. "Red Spot Jr." as it is being called, formed after
three white
oval-shaped storms-two of which were at least 90 years old-merged
between 1998
and 2000. A similar merger took place centuries ago and formed the
bigger and
legendary Great Red Spot, a storm twice as big as Earth and almost 300
years
old.

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977
Mars Is Warming, NASA Scientists Report
Data coincide with increasing solar output
Written By: James M. Taylor
Published In: Environment News
Publication Date: November 1, 2005
Publisher: The Heartland Institute

The planet Mars is undergoing significant global warming, new data
from the
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) show, lending
support to
many climatologists' claims that the Earth's modest warming during the
past
century is due primarily to a recent upsurge in solar energy.

Martian Ice Shrinking Dramatically

According to a September 20 NASA news release, "for three Mars summers
in a
row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have
shrunk from
the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress."
Because a
Martian year is approximately twice as long as an Earth year, the
shrinking of
the Martian polar ice cap has been ongoing for at least six Earth
years.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/21/mars_dynamic/
Mars: a changing, dynamic world They've got pictures to prove it
By Lucy Sherriff
Published Wednesday 21st September 2005 13:59 GMT

New features have been spotted on the surface of Mars by NASA's Mars
Global
Surveyor spacecraft. The orbiter has taken periodic photographs of the
planet's
surface since it began its mission in 1997. Snaps of the same sand
dune in 2002
and 2005 clearly show new features have emerged. The gullies in the
later
photograph are thought to have been caused by boulders tumbling down
the slope.


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kevin kelly wrote:

> as an evil conservative and limbaugh fan i can shed some light on this. <

 

 

Well, this really is a most curious affair!

 

Not least because after talking with your for the past seven years Kevin, and about the strangest subjects in the world at that, the last thing I would suspect would be that you were an evil conservative and a Limbaugh fan. You've been hiding this real well, hehe.

 

Regardless of Limbaugh and what he stands for though, it's pretty obvious that this is his idea of a joke (and I agree that it is a funny one) - to present Gore as a buffoon and his "Inconvenient Truth" as a collection of plainly preposterous junk. That's the actual "Gore Report" that he's mocking here. And to achieve this not-so-thinly veiled satire, Limbaugh fills his own "report" with various ridiculous statements that one sees only on the weirder conspiracy forums and which should make it obvious to everyone that he is making this up - such as about the "Illuminati bloodlines" and the New World Order. Both of these are famous "fake Bogey Men", myths created to give the people a convenient patsy to blame for all their problems, in order to shift the attention from the real culprits behind what's happening.

 

The man David Wilcock who's spouting this on his blog as God's Truth is plainly deluded, if not purposely misinforming. It's stuff like this that confuses the true researcher today, by totally clouding the issues.

 

In fairness, Wilcox does have a more recent update on his "The Revealing" page (at http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid=70). It's towards the end of that page, titled "UPDATE: WAS RUSH ‘JUST JOKING’ - BUT GOT TOO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH?", and he posts a response he got from somebody which is uncannily similar to what you tell us below, and makes me think that maybe you's the one who sent him that mail.

 

Also in fairness, I should note that Wilcox is making an interesting (and in my opinion valid) point on that page, about the "Masonic layout" of Washington DC. But as with many other such writers, the things he's saying which may be true are embedded in so much plain nonsense, that it becomes impossible to separate the two.

 

There is however an important reference there, to the latest article by Laurence Gardner about the Jesus Ossuary, available in pdf download (http://www.graal.co.uk/thejesusossuary.pdf). Gardner has been curiously silent for the past three years or so, and it'll be interesting to read his very latest from this month. Especially about the latest Jesus Tomb documentary by Cameron. Stay tuned.

 

Anyways, as you say: "onwards". But hey, this is how I get my fun (:-)

Sol

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: kevin kelly

To: ZetaAstro@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:05 PM

Subject: Re: [ZetaAstro] Fwd: The Revealing III - The Mars Bloodline?

 

david and gang,

 

confession time!  as an evil conservative and limbaugh fan (i find he agrees with me a lot  (-:   hope that doen't lessen me in anyones eyes!)  i can shed some light on this.

 

  that segment is, a least veiled satire!  the tipoff is the "name" of the top secret report that he refers to...the gore report!  written by area 51 scientists??  too funny!  i remember listening to this when it first came out and thought it was very funny.  and i laughed again this morning.  now, i am not addressing his beliefs.  he may well be on our side of the fence.  but when you listen to the segment his tongue could not be any further into his cheek! 

 

i don't believe any transcripts were sanitized.  i imagine that is conspiracy fodder.  on the other hand limbaugh has the largest radio audience, 20 million per week in the usa.  and thats not including the worldwide web audience.  so, from a conspiracy standpoint its kinda fun to think that someone may have dropped a bug in his ear to "float the mars trial balloon" using parody.  not likely, tho. i had forgotten the bit about the skull and bones/haliburton DNA match! 

 

great stuff!

 

Innpkg@... wrote:

Some interesting stuff about Rush Limbaugh.  Could this be true?

The oceans are the first to heat from the shrinking mismatch of rotation of the Earth's core and crust. The core started to rotate faster than the curst in 1970 (by 60 degrees), but the missmatch has slowed since then, down to about half a degree per year. The Earth's crust is thinnest under the oceans and the Earth is thinnest at the poles..

If the Sun's temperature were increasing, the many solar observatories would be the first to notice it.

 

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From: "yaridanjo@..." <yaridanjo@...>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:28:40 GMT
To: dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com
Subject: OCEAN HEAT

The oceans are the first to heat from the shrinking mismatch of rotation of the Earth's core and crust. The core started to rotate faster than the curst in 1970 (by 60 degrees), but the missmatch has slowed since then, down to about half a degree per year. The Earth's crust is thinnest under the oceans and the Earth is thinnest at the poles..

If the Sun's temperature were increasing, the many solar observatories would be the first to notice it.

OCEAN HEAT BLAMED FOR THE MYSTERIOUS DISAPPEARANCE OF GLACIERS  http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2362745.ece
A mysterious phenomenon is causing four major glaciers in the Antarctic to shrink in unison, causing a significant increase in sea levels, scientists have found. The rise in atmospheric temperatures caused by global warming cannot account for the relatively rapid movement of the glaciers into the sea, but scientists suspect that warmer oceans may be playing a role.
"There is a possibility that heat from the ocean is somehow flowing in underneath these glaciers, but it is not related to global warming," said glaciologist Duncan Wingham of University College London. "Something has changed that is causing these glaciers to shrink.
"At this rate the glaciers will all be afloat in 150 years or so."

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