On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

> Aschwin Marsman wrote:

> > cvs commit is not enough?
>
> That doesn't add new files or remove old files. The recipe I'm using
> for creating the .zip archive already contains a list of all the files
> that are to be distributed. I want to edit this list only once, it
> should also be used for CVS. This also makes sure the zip archive
> contains the same items as what is in CVS.

Good point, should be easy (cvs add, cvs remove)

> > > Having read part of the CVS documentation reminded me how complicated
> > > this is for distributing software. I'll also try to think of a simple
> > > way that just uses files on an ftp or http server.
> >
> > When you are used to it, it's no problem.
>
> I think it's still a problem. Example: When I imported the A-A-P files
> to the SourceForge CVS server, after reading their documentation, I
> discovered they had been put in "Exec/Exec", thus one directory too
> deep. Think I could quickly fix this, I made another mistake and ended
> up with the "Exec" files in the top directory. The third time I did it
> right, the "Exec" directory had the right files.
>
> Now, I can delete the files from the wrong directories, but I can't
> delete the empty directories. On a local system you would bypass CVS
> and do this manually. The SourceForge CVS server doesn't have shell
> access, thus I had to submit a support request (which was handled in
> only a few hours, thankfully to the SourceForge staff!).
>
> Not only did this show there are still things you can't do with CVS, it
> also shows it doesn't have a proper "undo" mechamism (that's not the
> same as rolling back versions). And it's not too difficult to make
> mistakes.

For a SCM system, you don't want to change history. But I do agree,
that a little misstake can be made, and that it can't be corrected
using cvs commands alone.

> Add to that the magic commands and options and URLs you have to type,
> and you quickly decide to make a script to do this stuff. Or at least a
> shell alias.

That's what UNIX is all about.

> > I'm having problems with gettings Exec to work.
> >
> > I'm running RH 7.3, which installs the following for Python:
> >
> > $ rpm -q python
> > python-1.5.2-38
> > $ rpm -q python2
> > python2-2.2-16
> >
> > The scripts look for python, which is python 1.5.2 ;-(
>
> Hmm, I think the program currently requires Python 2. I might have an
> attempt to make it work with Python 1.5 again (later). I'll check to
> see if it's possible to detect the presence of python2. However, this
> won't be possible in the scripts that start with
> "#!/usr/bin/env python". Unless someone knows a trick.

Isn't python 2 always installed at python2, or is this a RH invention?

> > Finding help gives:
> >
> > $ ./Main.py -v -help
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> > File "./Main.py", line 96, in ?
> > main()
> > File "./Main.py", line 48, in main
> > i18n_init()
> > File "./Util.py", line 39, in i18n_init
> > gettext.install("a-a-p")
> > AttributeError: install
> >
> > I haven't done anything with Python yet, so it's probably easy to fix.
>
> This really requires Python 2. The gettext support wasn't very good in
> 1.5. I could detect this and skip the gettext support for 1.5 to work
> around this. Until running into the next problem...

Doesn't sound like a good idea.

> > Maybe a FAQ for problems like this is a good idea.
>
> It's mentioned in the README.txt file.

The requirement for python 2 is in the FAQ, and I had python 2 installed,
but it wasn't used...

> > What are the dependencies of the project?
> > Which tools have to be installed in order for letting it work?
>
> Just Python 2. And I haven't tried it on anything else but Unix, thus
> it probably doesn't work on MS-Windows yet.
> Obviously you need an "scp" command to be able to use an "scp://" URL for
> ":copy".

Keep up the good work,

Best regards,

Aschwin Marsman

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