On Jun 4, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Antony Marcano (testingReflections) wrote:
I know many developers that got interested in TDD because of JUnit. Sometimes people need a cool tool to spark the initial interest in getting better at something.
I suspect there will be a tool at the center of the next advance in testing. The tool will enable the advance, but it won't be the advance. Like with jUnit, the tool will be useful before the advance has happened, but, when the books are written, they will devote far more attention to the practices surrounding the tool than the tool itself.
Brian wrote: I confess it leaves me lukewarm because missing software doesn't seem to me to be the real pain. The pain I see is that so many people would not...
... I suspect there will be a tool at the center of the next advance in testing. The tool will enable the advance, but it won't be the advance. Like with...
Ward Cunningham
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Jun 5, 2008 2:14 pm
Thanks Ward, That's the point I was trying to make, only you've put it far more eloquently. _____ From: aa-ftt@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aa-ftt@yahoogroups.com]...
... I like that the visionaries are looking beyond tools at this point in time. Ward, Brian, since you are such eloquent and clear communicators, would...
For those of us about to make travel plans, for what day do you have the room booked? Thanks, Gerard jennitta andrea wrote: On 6/4/08, Brian Marick <...
As I can't come until Monday night late, I was hoping it might be possible to schedule an open space session later to summarize the results and maybe have...
Is the pre-Agile2008 workshop officially on, off or YetTBD? Thanks, Gerard jennitta andrea wrote: We have a room for Monday Aug 4. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:36...
An announcement will be coming soon, but yes, we are officially on for Monday August 4. You can plan on it; the AA has generously donated a room to us. So...
I'm still leaning toward taking a web framework and beefing it up to encourage manual exploratory testing (primarily) but also automated testing. I have one...
(Jeff Patton is the tentative facilitator.) The other thing I was thinking about: I've gotten a lot of mileage from about a day of working w/ Jeff Patton after...
This sounds like an interesting activity. As a proponent of paper prototyping and wizard of oz testing on agile projects (code isn't the only thing that can be...
I would hate to put words in anyone's mouth, but, would you attend a workshop titled ... New Roles for Functional Test in Systematic Interaction Design ...
Ward Cunningham
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Jun 13, 2008 1:25 pm
Knowing how people tend to come up with a pronouncable acronym for these things, how would you say NRfFTiSiD? Nefertiti Sid perhaps? [grin] AA-FTT-DOVOU...
A final thought: we wouldn't necessarily all have to do the same thing. Or not all the same thing all the time. ... Brian Marick, independent consultant Mostly...
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