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2009/6/12 Elfriede Dustin <edustin@...>:
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> To echo a comment someone else made: It seems most the tools/frameworks
> discussed are for web based testing – I am getting the impression that 90%
> (or more) of the discussions  is testing related to web application. Is that
> a correct assumption?

The common agreement seems to be that the workshop will this time
concentrate on automation frameworks. Some frameworks may be primarily
or even fully targeted for web, but I assume most frameworks are
generic so that they can be used test pretty much anything. Assuming
obviously that a suitable lower level tool is available so that it can
be used as a driver.

> Thick clients are still around (especially in DOD) and are being tested, but
> I rarely hear/read about those types of agile testing efforts.

I believe there are two reasons. First of all, there's so much web
development nowadays that there's a wide market for such tools and lot
of developers to build them. On desktop there are so many different UI
techniques (Windows, Swing, GTK, QT, Aqua, ...) that the market and
developer resources are scattered. The other reason, already
highlighted by chrs_mcmhm, is that web is based on open protocols and
anyone can innovate.

> Anyone here involved in agile testing efforts using thick clients  in Linux
> environments? If yes, what tools are you using for it?

I've been looking for similar tools too but haven't yet tried anything
hands-on. This announcement made me believe that things are at least
getting better:
http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/mago-a-desktop-testing-initiative/

Cheers,
.peke
--
Agile Tester/Developer/Consultant :: http://eliga.fi
Lead Developer of Robot Framework :: http://robotframework.org



Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:35 pm

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... You can't have an open discussion if you don't have an open protocol. There is nothing secret about how the web works, so that's where the innovation is...
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Jun 13, 2009
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... The common agreement seems to be that the workshop will this time concentrate on automation frameworks. Some frameworks may be primarily or even fully...
Pekka Klärck
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Jun 13, 2009
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It's not in a Linux environment, but one of my coworkers has been developing a framework using White and FitNesse to test Windows GUI client apps. There may be...
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Jun 14, 2009
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That's really interesting. Almost a year ago I was telling folks I work with that Project White mixed with FitNesse could be an interesting option for...
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Lisa, From the other things I've read, I believe you used Watir as well as WebTest. How would you compare your experience with the two? Dan...
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... Cool! I'm very happy I wrote 'AFAIK' above as I clearly didn't know. I stand corrected and really want to see a demo in the workshop. Cheers, .peke -- ...
Pekka Klärck
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... As a framework developer I'm very happy to concentrate on frameworks. I'm even more happier that at least on this list we have a consensus that frameworks...
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Happy to be involved. Paul....
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