... Why freeware and not open source? ... I'm a big proponent of the keyword-driven technique too and it's great to see more tools using that approach. I...
Pekka, it will probably become open source, perhaps even soon, but for now I want to be in control of what happens with it. The interfacing libraries for it...
Hi Martin, You might also want to check out my talk on SlideShare: http://tinyurl.com/groovy-testing As well as straight coding and simplified testing DSLs, it...
Hi Martin, Would your framework be something that's installable as easily as, say, FitNesse or Canoo WebTest, and usable in a course that teaches testers ...
Hello Lisa, Me neither. So far I always end up enlisting testers and programmers to write SeleniumRC kinds of tests in actual Java, driven from actual Junit or...
Hi Lisa, the short answer to the first question is: Yes, it is very easy to install. But I think you need a more complete answer. Here goes: Two things are...
... Not sure if this clear to you or not, but you can open-source code and still retain exclusive access to your repository. Open source just means that others...
... As Bret already commented, open source doesn't mean you give others permission mess up with the code in your repository. ... I read the paper and agreed...
2009/11/7 Lisa Crispin <lisa.crispin@...> ... I'm somewhat confused on what object-oriented means in acceptance test design. Could you give (or point to)...
With Fitnesse, I believe the fixture is considered the test. So I think she means that the Java code that implements the fixtures should be properly designed...
Hi Pekka, it is great that someone with your experience in keyword-driven testing and frameworks 'fully agrees' with the conclusions in my paper. Thanks for...
... In Agile projects the separation between testers and developers isn't as strong as your paper assumes. Otherwise your conclusions, at least in my opinion,...
No, that isn't what I mean, though of course the fixtures should be well-designed also. Here's an example, using SWAT (GUI test driver) with FitNesse. At the...
It is good to see another keyword driven framework! And a good article about it too... Some of the developers who have come across from code based approaches...
I am aware that, in Agile projects, people are encouraged to participate in all activities. I like that in fact, both for the project that reduces risks this...
Lisa, I guess the term 'object oriented' confused me. Using features like the one you describe makes perfect sense. It removes duplication, makes test cases...
That table I just posted looks awful in my web mail! For you too, I assume. Sorry about that. I will post the whole package soon, until then perhaps this will...
Hi Erik, thanks for the compliment. As I am unwilling to believe the paper is perfect, I am still hoping for suggestions on how to improve it, and indeed...
Which raises the question: what makes them so hard to maintain? Does anybody know of a study or article talking about why automated tests are so brittle? I've...
We use an xml-based format with Microsoft Excel to store our spreadsheets. This format is somewhat hidden in the Excel interface and you get annoying but...
We use a ruby-based library called Roo that allows you to write code that works with Excel, Open Office or Google Spreadsheets. http://roo.rubyforge.org/ ... ...
Those that use Java can use Apache POI to read and write such files. So that is what I use. Not sure if it supports the 2003 XML variety, though. Martin...
I thought maybe tinyurls didn't work forever, but I like this one. thanks Lisa ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A Practical...
It will last as long as the service does :-) ... *Mark Levison* | Founder and Consultant - TheAgileConsortium<http://theagileconsortium.com/>| Agile Editor @...
somewhere I got it in my head they were ephemeral. Thanks for straightening me out! ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing: A...
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