Hi Dennis I've been using Concordion for a couple of years, most recently rolling it out across a number of teams at a financial institution. The tool has been...
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Pekka Klärck
laukpe
Nov 3, 2010 5:16 pm
Hi all, I run a free Robot Framework introduction workshop on Monday November 8th in London. The session is organized by the great people at Skills Matter and...
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Gojko Adzic
gojko_lastname
Nov 4, 2010 11:04 am
Hi, I ran a very interesting session on the terminology this week at the UK test management forum, asking people in particular to come up with an alternative...
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Dale Emery
dhemery...
Nov 4, 2010 12:12 pm
Hi Gojko, I ran a very interesting session on the terminology this week at the UK test ... I agree that the meaning is nice, and the term is awkward. I offer...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Nov 4, 2010 5:18 pm
... Yes, the rule of thumb is that whenever people don't understand our words, we should fall back on Latin. It's our lingua franca. ;-) - George -- Nov 15-16...
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Jorge Diz
jorgediz
Nov 4, 2010 6:29 pm
Gojko et al: What about "plain text automation". I think it conveys the meaning of mostly unmodified, pristine textual specifications. "Narrative automation"...
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Dennis Britton
aikiden
Nov 4, 2010 8:09 pm
Are you talking about tools like Concordion that hook into existing html documents with instrumentation or tags in the source to facilitate 'Executable...
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Dan Woodward
rsidan
Nov 4, 2010 8:12 pm
I actually suggested "In Place Automation" at Agile 2010. The Latinized version is a little fancier. Dan Woodward http://whotestedthis.squarespace.com ... ...
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Dennis Britton
aikiden
Nov 4, 2010 8:21 pm
Ahh, I see, the 'in situ' wikipedia definition for Aerospace applies directly. I call these self-testable applications or embedded tests when a production...
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Bret Pettichord
bpettichord
Nov 4, 2010 9:54 pm
I'm still in the dark as to what the term is supposed to mean. Personally, I would like to see agreement on the meaning first, then we can find a suitable term...
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Markus Gaertner
shino01051979
Nov 4, 2010 10:27 pm
Sounds to me as if we should maybe write the pattern first, and then see which aliases we can come up with while doing so. Best Markus Gaertner ...
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Gojko Adzic
gojko_lastname
Nov 4, 2010 11:25 pm
the way I've seen the process work really well is that people collaborate on specifications with examples - either on a whiteboard, flipchart, piece of paper...
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Charley Baker
charley_baker
Nov 4, 2010 11:56 pm
There's never automation without change, never much of anything without change, the point being to carry on the conversation and make sure that everyone...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Nov 5, 2010 4:18 am
Charley, ... Never is a strong word. If you saw a counter-example, how would that affect your opinion? - George ... -- Nov 15-16 Agile Testing Workshop in...
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Gojko Adzic
gojko_lastname
Nov 5, 2010 6:57 am
... please don't make generic statements like this. I understand that this might be your experience but it is definitely not mine. I've participated on several...
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Bret Pettichord
bpettichord
Nov 5, 2010 2:32 pm
OK, now I understand. To me what is difficult about this concept is that you aren't endorsing any particular format (not Fit, not Cucumber) but rather a more...
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Matthew
heusserm
Nov 5, 2010 2:38 pm
... I've worked in one specific domain (insurance) where we could draw up equivalence classes in tabular format and implement them as tests directly. In that...
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christian.schuhegger
christian.sc...
Nov 6, 2010 3:32 pm
Hello all, I've watched the video on InfoQ: "Elizabeth Hendrickson on the State of Functional Testing Tools": ...
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Dale Emery
dhemery...
Nov 9, 2010 9:04 pm
Hi George and all, Yes, the rule of thumb is that whenever people don't understand our words, ... Yeah. With a little further thought, I can see that *in...
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Narayan Raman
nari6ul
Nov 10, 2010 5:58 am
Hi everyone, Join us for an introductory session on Sahi through this webinar: ...
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Matthew Philip
matthew_r_ph...
Nov 12, 2010 5:34 pm
Hi-fi automation, or high-fidelity automation? "faithful reproduction with little distortion" Cordially, Matt...
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George Dinwiddie
gdinwiddie
Nov 12, 2010 6:30 pm
... When I've used the terms "high-fidelity" and "low-fidelity" to describe prototyping, I've always had to explain what I mean. I'm not sure those terms...
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Elisabeth Hendrickson
elisabethshe...
Nov 12, 2010 6:35 pm
Gishu Pillai posted a compare-and-contrast of using xUnit v. Fitnesse for acceptance testing to the TDD group:...
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Mike Stockdale
jediwhale
Nov 12, 2010 10:21 pm
I was thinking 'high-fidelity', too. Or accurate. ... -- Cheers, Mike Stockdale /fit/Sharp <http://www.syterra.com/FitSharp.html> Syterra Software Inc....
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Declan Whelan
declan.whelan
Nov 13, 2010 8:40 pm
Hi, I just want to thank everyone for their thoughtful suggestions. I thought I would report back as to what I ended up doing. For the manager's session I...
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Declan Whelan
declan.whelan
Nov 15, 2010 6:37 am
Phil Brock at Agile Alliance has setup a Confluence server to use as our wiki. You can check it out here:...
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Declan Whelan
declan.whelan
Nov 15, 2010 6:40 am
The link to the wiki should be http://aaftt.agilealliance.org:8080/display/AAFTT/Home (no trailing period)....
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Jim
jim.corneliu...
Nov 15, 2010 12:21 pm
I am willing to help out with whatever is needed. Is the plan to start with moving the rest of the tools spreadsheet to wiki? - Jim Cornelius...
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Declan Whelan
declan.whelan
Nov 16, 2010 5:14 am
Thanks Jim, I would like to focus on the initial structure first. I started with the tools as an experiment to see how well it would work. I plan to complete 2...
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Lisa Crispin
lisa_crispin...
Nov 16, 2010 4:11 pm
That's great we have a wiki, thanks. Please let me know if there is a task I can do. -- Lisa ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author with Janet Gregory, _Agile Testing:...
