At the workshop there was some debate over whether a test was an example or whether they are two different things. I think I said at the time that I think of a...
Typo - Should be SbE (not SoE): For example: http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6660 (where I explain how SbE better enables 'validation' of a system...
If you're talking about "ambiguity" in terms of "allowing many different implementations" then I agree completely. If you're talking about using purposely...
... I just started a new job and I am thinking about everything from a fresh perspective and the topics we discussed at the workshop are about to become very...
I have just trawled through David's rather excellent documentation about Concordion and I wonder how the approach scales to more intricate specifications? All...
Namaste, Does anyone know of one or more projects with User Stories and Acceptance Tests? Ideal the project should be open source so that we can look at all...
"Low, almost unit-level specs". Yes, I find that when I pull out each strand of behaviour and test it in as isolated-as-possible way, that's what I tend to...
Namaste Naresh, StoryTestIQ was getting built from user stories for quite some time but has been less disciplined as time to work on it has been limited. The...
David wrote: If you're talking about "ambiguity" in terms of "allowing many different implementations" then I agree completely. If you're talking about using...
Your thoughts on this post would be appreciated. http://www.testingreflections.com/node/view/6704 If you like it, tell others if you don't, tell me ;-) Antony...
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Antony Marcano (testingReflections) ... I've enjoyed this conversation, even though it hurts my head a bit (... all that...
... Jennitta, you say you believe that example=test and yet the examples are not sufficient to be a full test suite and you still need other tests. ...
I agree with Antony, Brian and Jennitta (mostly), and we need something that captures that diversity. This is all to do with the continuum between data, ...
As Brian once said, methodology work is ontology work... I've paraphrased some of the points (to minimise clutter) and provided responses 1. Examples == tests ...
... Although XP only emphasises Acceptance Tests and Unit Tests - I agree that there will always be tests in-between. I've found that Acceptance Tests are ...
Eric wrote: I would argue that an "example" would never map to just one test instance, but is a description of a possible test. Erm. kinda. but I'm not sure if...
P.S. if it wasn't clear - that would not be my only test. I'd have an equivalent one for the cases where the password was strong enough _____ From: Antony...
... That was excellent Anthony. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think I understand exactly now the distinction you make between 'example' and 'test'. But I am going...
That makes complete sense... as I'd said before... they need to understand the idea of specification by example first - then and only then should the word test...
... consistent with your understanding of the subject? Does it address the concern you had during the workshop that examples and tests are not the same? ... ...
Kevin wrote: I think my understanding exactly matches yours but I think there is value in using a different word for something that is so very different from...
"'Internet radio' has come a long way since it first began. Long gone are the days where you have to seek out a station that plays the music you like, or...
Thanks for that great example. Good to see we have lots of examples in this examples thread! Yes, I didn't realize you were talking about Specification by...
Hi Eric, this is perhaps partly because the title of the group and indeed the workshop may be misleading. Because it contains the phrase "Functional Test...
I wonder - if Kent Beck knew that ATDD would distinguish itself as it is now - would he have called his book "Unit-Test-Driven Development - by example"? It...
Interesting point. I've also wanted an umbrella term for the concept of driving development with tests, no matter what the level of tests. I tend to use "TDD"...
Lisa said "I've always heard that TDD is more about design than testing. I've never thought about whether that's true for ATDD." Here's how it is true for...
That makes sense, designing the system at a higher level. We've used story tests to guide development for a few years and found it quite effective. We recently...
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