Sadly, I had already committed to training & speaking gigs in the US around those dates so CITCON isn't possible for me. But, I wasn't really talking about...
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Antony Marcano (testingReflections) ... After the first CITCON there was some talk of having a Selenium users conference...
In the interest of trying to move us towards some kind of decision, here's what I've heard and a suggestion for moving forwards. There is a general recognition...
Thanks for the summary Gerard, it is helpful. FYI, last week I started to get the ball rolling for a workshop co-located with the Agile2008 conference by: -...
I'm in Toronto for Agile 2008 - and I'd be more than interested in taking part. That is, if I've got something to contribute. Some of you know me (Hello), and...
... As per previous email, I can arrange space at U of T for a day if there's interest. ... I'm particularly interested in focusing on something that...
Jennitta wrote: Other logistics have to be sorted out, like: - size of workshop (last time we had ~20 people) The size last time was about right. You don't...
A thought: * There's been talk about organizing at the workshop to get something done. Sometimes that works, often not. * I expect we all know that deadlines...
(In lieu of a database to respond to) Yes, I want to attend a workshop before Agile 2008. I think a planning a one day event initially but with a second day...
Brilliant as usual, Brian. Perhaps the price of entry would be to submit some kind of artifact that will help specify what such a tool might do or look like....
Erik, Personally, I'd be happy if we were successful at "Envisioning" what a single example of the tool might do and/or look like; I don't feel a strong need...
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Antony Marcano (testingReflections) ... At the last workshop, we brainstormed the following high level roles, along with some...
I personally would like to see a workshop be a 'living example' of 'example-driven development'. By that I mean, I'd like to have a group of people get...
... Slicing the pie a little differently, I think it's worth singling out "student" as a distinct role. If we can't persuade undergraduates in comp sci and...
I scanned through this thread. This suggestion of Antony seems to be drawing the most interest: ... I confess it leaves me lukewarm because missing software...
Brian wrote: I confess it leaves me lukewarm because missing software doesn't seem to me to be the real pain. The pain I see is that so many people would not...
... I suspect there will be a tool at the center of the next advance in testing. The tool will enable the advance, but it won't be the advance. Like with...
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Thanks Ward, That's the point I was trying to make, only you've put it far more eloquently. _____ From: aa-ftt@yahoogroups.com [mailto:aa-ftt@yahoogroups.com]...
... I like that the visionaries are looking beyond tools at this point in time. Ward, Brian, since you are such eloquent and clear communicators, would...
For those of us about to make travel plans, for what day do you have the room booked? Thanks, Gerard jennitta andrea wrote: On 6/4/08, Brian Marick <...
Has anyone used or looked into STAF (Software Testing Automation Framework)? See http://staf.sourceforge.net for details Best, Gerard ... I like the spirit of...
STAT is one of the original freeware frameworks. It started off for the rational toolset then broadened out to other tools. You have a spreadsheet of...
In your opinion, would it provide any benefits to whoever ends up building our "Next Generation Acceptance-test-driving Tool"? Would it be a good framework to...