... That is a peculiarity of written communication: you do not see them nod, you just read their objections. I am sure Chris and the most influential...
Don't worry, Chuck, we're listening. I understand and agree with all your eight points, and I would hope so do most others here. I find the amount of...
From: Tim Paysen ... It is nothing to do with the easiest fingering: for example a scale of (written) D on a saxophone is arguably ‘easier’ than one of C...
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Jon Freeman
jon@...
Jan 1, 2012 2:17 pm
... Actually, I think it depends on whose "street language" you speak and (while I do accept the concert usage in the context of transposition) I'm beginning...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 3:37 pm
... Yes. It's relevant to add, that this information will be recorded on the printout. It will be said explicitly, somewhere, that the part is intended for...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 3:49 pm
... Yes. I've mentioned this already - that the word "transpose" covers 2 different things. We need both. "Transposing" instruments are one of them, where the...
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Jon Freeman
jon@...
Jan 1, 2012 3:56 pm
On 01/01/12 15:37, Richard Robinson wrote: I not sure why you have moved backwards to this point but. ... As far I'm concerned the usage of "concert" as a...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 4:01 pm
... Well, we could try looking for potential problems, cases it doesn't cover, and so on ? I think it's pretty good, I'm not 100% prepared to swear it's ...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 4:49 pm
... Yes. Yes yes *yes*. "Transposing instrument player" should be better read as "transposing player of instrument". "transposingness" is not an inherent ...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 5:34 pm
... This is the bit of the analysis I am proposing that we deprecate. To render as sound is "display", just as much as it is to render it onto a sheet of ...
Sorry that most of this indeed seems off-topic, but not really, as a better understanding of the terminology used and issues faced by different musicians...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 6:37 pm
... I don't follow that bit. What two sequences, I can't see where you mention more than one ? ... Yes. That's the thing I was doing in my John's-example post,...
From: Marc Sabatella ... No woodwind plays in tune “out of the box” and correct intonation is learned by experience. The sax can be more variable than...
Main point: The notation K: Eb transpose=–2 for a part written in Eb and sounding 2 semitones lower is fine. === With one proviso: transpositions of parts...
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Jon Freeman
jon@...
Jan 1, 2012 8:59 pm
On 01/01/12 15:37, Richard Robinson wrote: Just a comment on this. ... True but (not that I've experienced this) I think if the people I play with used an...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 9:12 pm
... Ah. Yes, I can also imagine it possible. I can't, immediately, think of any cases where the context wouldn't make the meaning clear. -- Richard Robinson ...
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Richard Robinson
richardrobinson@...
Jan 1, 2012 9:38 pm
Brief, becasue I have to go out very shortly. ... We should refer to the transposition of a transposing instrument in the same way that the instrument does....
... OK. Now what about Eb instrument? Sax transposes up. Sopranino clarinet transposes down as does Eb trumpet. You just can't get there specifying Eb or Bb...
... Most if not all woodwinds *are* designed to play in tune in their acoustic home key. As for more distant keys, it's "easy" once you have years and years...
... Agreed; I almost pointed that out as well. I was going to say I normally think as much in terms of the circle of fifths - a Bb clarinet "adds two sharps"...
From: Richard Robinson ... way that the instrument does. For a Bb instrument, write "Bb". It does give us a direction, by virtue of being relative to the...
From: Chuck Boody ... It is more conventional to say an instrument transposes down when it sounds lower than its written music. The transposition referred...
From: Marc Sabatella ... Modern woodwinds are designed to play in tune in all keys. All notes can be varied with the embouchure, well beyond the range...
... I do not quite understand what you want to say. Is it about "transpose=" actually meaning "**the abc code** is transposed; to sound it correctly it must be...
... The helix is one, the semitones form the other one. In the helix, the octave is abstracted from, in the semitone sequence, orthography is disregarded. If...
PS: "pragmatic" is indeed an algorithm, slightly but notably different from "tonal". The user must be asked which one she or he wants, so there must be a...
I think this comes pretty close to the user's mental model. I think, as a user trying to transpose, my thought process would be something like this: " I need...
