Last try. Two variants, distinguished only by the direction of the semitone syntax; adequate keywords still to be found. ... 1) Model Towards-Sound, as used by...
... Except that again, no one actually wants to write anything like that. No one has had to write that for 300 years, they shouldn't have to start now. So...
From: scheutzow4cond ... X:1 T:Duo in Eb major for alto sax and guitar K:C V:asax abc=Eb instrument=Eb c2e2g4|] V:gt abc=+3 instrument=+3 % <--- this is the...
... Indeed. FWIW I don't need a written guitar part transposed; I want it to appear in concert pitch, with the capo position (if any) printed at the top, and...
Dave, although your answer is once again not quite up to your best potential (- who talked about "in A" resp. "in D"? -), your vote is and was clear. If in...
... That makes it "written pitch", not "concert pitch". ... Nothing new needs to be added to abc to make it work for transposing instruments either, if notated...
Hello everyone On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:54 PM, scheutzow4cond ... First of all, I am very much against any proposal that drops the arbitrary shift operators....
The more I read the discussion, the more the solutions seems to be complicated. At this stage of the discussion I don't really understand why the proposals are...
Not complete in all respects, but perhaps a good high level summary of how I see it working: Instrument Transposition When creating scores for transposing...
... This is *exactly* what the proposal I have been advocating (one based on merging ideas from David and Alan) does, except I called the keyword "abc" instead...
I'm probably just completely lost in this entire discussion , but I do think that much of the struggle comes because of the rejection of the shift-sound and...
... BTW, you probably mean 2, not 3... ... In this version of the syntax, the idea is that you can set instrument and abc to *different* values, so you can...
... No we were referring to an Eb transposition. The transposition for Eb trumpet is 3 semitones (down for the music if written at concert pitch and up for...
Chris, thank you very much for your very helpful comment. If I had known that you were only waiting to be asked, I would have done so earlier. Since you have...
... ... Since it was my example, I have to answer. In all the variants currently discussed, there are *two* somewhat independent parameters, for example called...
... I didn't see anything in his response that says he favors language that is unfamiliar to 99% of use cases. Quite the contrary, in fact: "I consider the...
From: Chuck Boody ... Think about it in the latter terms - "in Eb" means a written C sounds as a concert Eb, in this case 9 semitones lower. ... Again think...
Marc, you are a valiant disputer. I hope you are enjoying yourself; otherwise I can advise you to save your gastric acid for purposes where it really helps...
... I wasn't waiting to be asked, I was having a transposition holiday. ... Wrong. See Marc's email (and Chuck's and Dave's). ... I want score-shift=-7...
... Currently I only see Marc's post, where he claims that the "coupling mechanism" is in fact *something like* the former "I:abc-pitch=". That is not a...
From: Chris Walshaw ... Hi Chris, can I see if I have digested this? Your method of playing bagpipes (et possibly cetera) of different sizes from music with...
Well, quite a batch of messages to wade through! It sounds like Chris really wants shift-sound= and shift-score=, and since his vote is much larger than any of...
It might be interesting to poll the masses and see, after all the discussion, if anyone wants to muddy the previously clean, easy and straight-forward abc with...
Thanks Dave, This clarifies your thinking, and makes it understandable to me. I'll wait to respond until I see responses to my post that came after this one....
... Seems like the obvious way to write a concert pitch score but have it printed at writtwn pitch, if you aren't using the high level directives. As I have...
... The thing is, by allowing abc to take "concert" or "instrument" as arguments (the one of the several variants that I have been advocating), (1) ends up...
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:49:32 -0700 ... I don't like very much a key in shift-score=. If you have V:clarinet shift-score=Bb it is the same as V:clarinet...
From: Alan Snyder ... It has to be -2 for reasons Marc and I have given. ... This would be fine for me, but some people need the possibility to write the abc...
I am thinking more and more in terms of the three pitches: a) that at which the music sounds b) that at which the instrument reads it c) that at which the abc...
