... It is just a case of an imperfect example in the specification. Recall that transposition (including octave transposition, K:.. octave=..) was just...
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Hudson Lacerda
hfmlacerda
May 5, 2012 1:52 am
... I wonder what MIDI file you refer. I could not find any MIDI file accompanying the ABC specification. And, yes, that ABC sample seems to be written only...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 10:55 pm
In a way. The assumption that these two routes should lead to sounds different in pitch seems to be the problem. A well-conceived music notation file (of...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 10:55 pm
From: Hans Davidson ... the correct way to interprete the standard, without knowing if those files, even if written using a new ABC version, ...< A file...
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Hans Davidson
harley.12358
May 4, 2012 9:49 pm
... I don't know ! But if new users of ABC is trying to use existing ABC files to find out the correct way to interprete the standard, without knowing if those...
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Richard Walker
rlwalker2
May 4, 2012 9:24 pm
Is this the crux of the problem? ________________________________ From: Jean-Francois Moine <moinejf@...> When talking about 'sound', do you mean the sound...
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Hans Davidson
harley.12358
May 4, 2012 8:49 pm
Hi all ! For me it seems that some syntax and/or semantics about the handling of clefs and octaves in ABC are almost as complex as (or even more than) the...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 8:14 pm
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... Now I *am* confused. Are you saying that the midi file accompanying the example in the standard has *not* been generated from...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 7:14 pm
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... There is no default for the voice 3 in the Canzonetta.abc: V: 3 clef=bass middle=d name="Tenor" sname="B" ~~~~~~~~ Then we have...
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 4, 2012 6:57 pm
On Fri, 4 May 2012 19:30:53 +0100 ... There is no default for the voice 3 in the Canzonetta.abc: V: 3 clef=bass middle=d name="Tenor" sname="B" ~~~~~~~~ -- ...
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 4, 2012 6:54 pm
On Fri, 4 May 2012 11:37:20 +0100 ... The MIDI file has been generated with extra %%MIDI transpose commands which are not in the example of the ABC 2.0...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 6:31 pm
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... the command 'middle=d' of the voice 3 has not been used, so, the notes are out of the staff. < They are interpreted very...
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 4, 2012 5:50 pm
On Fri, 4 May 2012 16:07:21 +0100 ... In your image, the notes are not interpreted as specified by ABC 2.1: the command 'middle=d' of the voice 3 has not been...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 3:07 pm
From: Hudson Lacerda ... generate a score only. It should be fixed (or pre-processed) to be played in MIDI correctly. The bass voice in the MIDI file available...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 3:07 pm
From: Hudson Lacerda ... Then the bass parts in the example i the spec will have to be sung by sopranos. However, gratifyingly, the software which produced...
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Hudson Lacerda
hfmlacerda
May 4, 2012 1:46 pm
... middle= does not affect playback software. It is only an instruction on how to display the music on the staff. No playback transposition is assumed. In...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 4, 2012 11:07 am
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... piccolo, male voice, breton 'biniou'... Each instrument does its own transposition and the rendered sound is often different from...
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 4, 2012 7:09 am
On Thu, 3 May 2012 20:32:17 +0100 ... You may play this note using many different instruments: guitar, piccolo, male voice, breton 'biniou'... Each instrument...
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John Chambers
jeanchambres
May 4, 2012 3:17 am
... Out of curiosity, I looked into my Tune Finder's database , which records uses of M:none and K:none, though it doesn't store info about clefs so I can't...
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Paul Rosen
ralph.sampson
May 3, 2012 11:25 pm
I like those two. They would come in handy when printing little snippets of music. I think that "clef none" actually means "treble clef, but don't print it",...
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scheutzow4cond
May 3, 2012 9:32 pm
Seconded; this will solve Simon's problem. "I:suppress-subsequent-clefs" and "I:suppress-subsequent-key-signatures" would sound better to me. The items will...
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Richard Walker
rlwalker2
May 3, 2012 9:09 pm
Seems like anyone writing play-back routines should get what they need from abc code produced from a standard. ________________________________ From:...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 3, 2012 7:54 pm
From: Simon Wascher ... <PROPOSAL> ... <clef none> - can be set to supress the display of the clef. The pitches of the staff lines are then set according to...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 3, 2012 7:32 pm
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... "transpose" explicitly says that it make a difference between the written note and the sounding pitch. "middle" makes no mention...
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Simon Wascher
2009@...
May 3, 2012 7:27 pm
Hello, ... ok, seems to be a program specific feature of abcm2ps to use treble clef as a default. I suppose this comes natural as treble clef is also the...
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Simon Wascher
2009@...
May 3, 2012 7:25 pm
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 3, 2012 6:38 pm
On Thu, 3 May 2012 18:15:47 +0100 ... Where do you see anything about play-back? "The pitch indicates what note is displayed on the 3rd line of the staff" ... ...
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David Webber
mozart_software
May 3, 2012 5:29 pm
From: Jean-Francois Moine ... players have no use of any clef definition/parameter (look at the abcmidi documentation). < *One* of the uses of middle= is to...
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scheutzow4cond
May 3, 2012 5:11 pm
... Last year we agreed on the current regulation, with the meaning "*the following code* is in the octave ...". The keyword is not entirely self-explanatory,...
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Jean-Francois Moine
moinejf@...
May 3, 2012 4:12 pm
On Thu, 3 May 2012 10:21:52 +0100 ... I think that it is clear enough: middle= is a clef parameter, and the players have no use of any clef...
