An 8th-magnitude nova was discovered on November 25, 2009, by Koichi Itagaki of Yamagata, Japan. The new star lies in northeastern Eridanus, 6.9° west-southwest of Rigel. In an e-mail sent late on the evening of November 28th, Sky & Telescope Senior Editor Alan MacRobert writes, "Just spotted the nova in my 10x50 binocs on their wooden shoulder frame. Barely visible through the bright moonlight at about mag 8.4." The find was announced on CBET 2050, issued November 25th by the Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Itagaki was using an 0.21-meter (8.3-inch) patrol camera, but within 15 minutes he secured a confirming image with an 0.60-meter reflector. The nova lies at right ascension 4h 47.9m, declination –10° 11' (equinox 2000.0).
Soon thereafter, Ernesto Guido and Giovanni Sostero of Castellammare di Stabia, Italy, captured the nova with an 0.25-meter f/3.4 reflector operated by Global-Rent-A-Scope near Mayhill, New Mexico (see the image above). They found it to have an unfiltered CCD magnitude of 8.2 on November 26th near 8:40 Universal Time.
According to CBET 2055, followup spectra taken in Japan and in the United States (the latter with the 3-meter Shane reflector at Lick Observatory) show this object to be a nova of the helium-nitrogen type. It has fluctuated between visual magnitude 8.0 and 8.7 since discovery. But in their blog, Guido and Sostero cite prediscovery images by other teams suggesting the star became as bright magnitude 5.6 in mid-November. Unfortunately, nobody noticed it then.
Check the American Association of Variable Star Observers (AAVSO) site for additional reports on Nova Eridani 2009. The AAVSO collects magnitude determinations by skilled observers to aid in the study of novae and other variable stars, and their site offers guidance on the techniques involved. They have an online tool for creating finder charts of various sizes, including comparison stars (with magnitudes given to tenths, with decimal place omitted). For example, here's a finder chart for this nova, with a field 3° square.
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Roger W. Sinnott Senior Contributing Editor Sky & Telescope
On November 26th, Italian amateurs Ernesto Guido and Giovanni Sostero obtained this close-up of Nova Eridani remotely, using a 10-inch reflector of Global-Rent-A-Scope in New Mexico.
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Assuming the embedded image comes through in the email below, you'll be
able to read about lectures at Greenwich in December. Chris
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Subject: Astro Christmas at the ROG
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:11:25 -0000
From: Louise Simkiss <LSimkiss@...>
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National Maritime Museum, Greenwich
Just a reminder about tomorrows beginners meeting. We'll be covering meteors,
M42 and eclipsing binaries.
We'll be in the Perry room from 8pm onwards.
Cheers,
Ian
But I have to say that whoever came up with their name ought to be shot! It's dreadful!! :-)
To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com From: chris.c.holt@... Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:31:26 +0000 Subject: [abingdonas] Message from Telescoshop
If it comes through, here is a message from Telescoshop. If I forward it as plain text the formatting is messed up but if I use my email client's default .eml attachment it will be likely to be stripped out by Yahoo Groups. If you don't see an attached message and want to know what you are missing, point your browser at http://www.telescoshop.com
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it as plain text the formatting is messed up but if I use my email
client's default .eml attachment it will be likely to be stripped out by
Yahoo Groups. If you don't see an attached message and want to know
what you are missing, point your browser at
http://www.telescoshop.com
Chris
This advertising for Ace Cameras of Yate (just off the M4 near Bath)
came in last week but with a 3 MB Publisher file attached. I asked them
to send a PDF instead and to reduce its size. They did the former but
not the latter, so I have reduced its size by image resolution reduction
myself. The embedded map is now less legible but I expect you'll be
able to find your way to Yate on 6 December if the open day attracts
you. Chris
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: open day
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:04:42 -0000
From: ACE Cameras, Yate <digital@...>
Dear Sir ,
We are having our annual open day on Sunday 6th December 2009 and was
wondering if you would not mind distributing this flyer to your members
Kind Regards and clear skys
Mike Stokes
In the end we had a reasonable night and got a couple of hours observing in. The skies were patchy, however I managed to view M31, M15, M1, M57, M37, M38, Jupiter and Alberio. Unfortunately, none at high magnification thanks to a combination of wind and poor seeing. I also managed to get one member better acquainted with their scope.
On a less series note I discovered that between them society members now have one of each kind of scope (i.e. refractor, newtonian SCT) using Celestron's goto mount. And we're agreed that the skyalign feature is not much good, but the basic 2 star alignment works well.
I've updated all the links to the observing site maps to Google Maps links with satellite views. I hope they're easier to follow. Some of the Multimap links were just plain wrong. Sorry about that.
Cheers,
Andrew.
P.S. And so did it clear, and did you go observing? It didn't clear here in Oslo - so much for seeing the northern lights and the Leonids...
Robin, That's it exactly, great map Best regards David Rayner
> > > > I guess it's the car park you can see next to the 'B' flag in this map : > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=A415%2FMarcham+Rd&daddr=Unknown > +road&hl=en&geocode=FdpoFAMdGvrr_w%3BFTCoFAMdz1jr_w&mra=ls&sll=51.679528,- > 1.34737&sspn=0.018281,0.02871&ie=UTF8&ll=51.682082,- > 1.350095&spn=0.00914,0.014355&t=h&z=16 > > Presumably just wander south from the car park until you bump into people with telescopes? > > Robin > > --- In abingdonas@yahoogroups.com, "akademy" <astronomy@...> wrote: > > > > The Dog House pub has the postcode: OX13 6QJ, which is just down the road. > > > > > >
I've updated all the links to the observing site maps to Google Maps links with satellite views. I hope they're easier to follow. Some of the Multimap links were just plain wrong. Sorry about that.
Cheers,
Andrew.
P.S. And so did it clear, and did you go observing? It didn't clear here in Oslo - so much for seeing the northern lights and the Leonids...
Robin, That's it exactly, great map Best regards David Rayner
> > > > I guess it's the car park you can see next to the 'B' flag in this map : > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=A415%2FMarcham+Rd&daddr=Unknown > +road&hl=en&geocode=FdpoFAMdGvrr_w%3BFTCoFAMdz1jr_w&mra=ls&sll=51.679528,- > 1.34737&sspn=0.018281,0.02871&ie=UTF8&ll=51.682082,- > 1.350095&spn=0.00914,0.014355&t=h&z=16 > > Presumably just wander south from the car park until you bump into people with telescopes? > > Robin > > --- In abingdonas@yahoogroups.com, "akademy" <astronomy@...> wrote: > > > > The Dog House pub has the postcode: OX13 6QJ, which is just down the road. > > > > > >
I've updated all the links to the observing site maps to Google Maps links with satellite views. I hope they're easier to follow. Some of the Multimap links were just plain wrong. Sorry about that.
Cheers,
Andrew.
P.S. And so did it clear, and did you go observing? It didn't clear here in Oslo - so much for seeing the northern lights and the Leonids...
Robin, That's it exactly, great map Best regards David Rayner
> > > > I guess it's the car park you can see next to the 'B' flag in this map : > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=A415%2FMarcham+Rd&daddr=Unknown > +road&hl=en&geocode=FdpoFAMdGvrr_w%3BFTCoFAMdz1jr_w&mra=ls&sll=51.679528,- > 1.34737&sspn=0.018281,0.02871&ie=UTF8&ll=51.682082,- > 1.350095&spn=0.00914,0.014355&t=h&z=16 > > Presumably just wander south from the car park until you bump into people with telescopes? > > Robin > > --- In abingdonas@yahoogroups.com, "akademy" <astronomy@...> wrote: > > > > The Dog House pub has the postcode: OX13 6QJ, which is just down the road. > > > > > >
Robin,
That's it exactly, great map
Best regards
David Rayner
>
>
>
> I guess it's the car park you can see next to the 'B' flag in this map :
>
>
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=A415%2FMarcham+Rd&daddr=Unknown
> +road&hl=en&geocode=FdpoFAMdGvrr_w%3BFTCoFAMdz1jr_w&mra=ls&sll=51.679528,-
> 1.34737&sspn=0.018281,0.02871&ie=UTF8&ll=51.682082,-
> 1.350095&spn=0.00914,0.014355&t=h&z=16
>
> Presumably just wander south from the car park until you bump into people with
telescopes?
>
> Robin
>
> --- In abingdonas@yahoogroups.com, "akademy" <astronomy@...> wrote:
> >
> > The Dog House pub has the postcode: OX13 6QJ, which is just down the road.
> >
>
>
>
>
The Dog House pub has the postcode: OX13 6QJ, which is just down the road.
--- In abingdonas@yahoogroups.com, "Owen Brazell" <owen@...> wrote:
>
> It is cloudy here J What is the post code for Frilford if it improves?
>
>
>
> Owen
>
>
>
> From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Ian Smith
> Sent: 17 November 2009 6:33 PM
> To: AAS email list
> Subject: [abingdonas] Tonights observing session 17/11
>
>
>
>
>
> We will be observing tonight at Frillford Heath from 8PM onwards.
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
It is cloudy here J What is the post code
for Frilford if it improves?
Owen
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Smith Sent: 17 November 2009 6:33 PM To: AAS email list Subject: [abingdonas] Tonights observing session 17/11
We will be observing tonight at Frillford Heath
from 8PM onwards.
Hi
I really struggled to find this last time
http://www.abingdonastro.org.uk/aasobsites.htm
My tip would be if you look on the above Multimap for the phone sign near the
Dog house Pub.
And generally when you are at the Dog House Pub you are VERY close, look up the
road for the phonebox, next to it there is an
easy to miss entrance to a small car park.
Best regards
David Rayner
> We will be observing tonight at Frillford Heath from 8PM onwards.
>
> Cheers,
> Ian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
I just watched the program on BBC iPlayer (it is available for the next 6 days), I enjoyed it. :-)
To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com; t.pitt@... From: owen@... Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:24:31 +0000 Subject: RE: [abingdonas] Country Tracks
I think so. It was a very poor image but not surprising as it was s low down. They had an even more wobbly image of Saturn through Davids telescope :-)
They dropped all the galaxy Zoo stuff so I guess we were lucky for the few minutes we had. It was pretty even between the three of us.
Owen
On Mon 16/11/09 1:02 PM , "Pitt, Trevor" t.pitt@geos.com sent:
Thanks Chris for the offer. Unfortunately, I missed as I had to work all Saturday night / Sunday morning - one of my forecasters caught the dreaded virus and the notice was too short to set up the recorder.
Ellie certainly had a good view of the moon through the scope ( okay it was not a good view as it was low down and through a Meade, but she could see it). They spent a while seeing if they could catch the moon through the eyepiece using their camera - did they not show that?
Yes, it was a good piece and the three of you came over very well. I have made a DVD-R of the whole programme and will endeavour to edit it down to the three minutes on astronomy to play at a forthcoming meeting (all things are possible in Linux: the trick is to work out how to do it!).
Chris
Owen Brazell wrote: > > > Well it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly so a plus
> for the BBC and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the > wistful image of Ellie J Shame it was such a short piece though. > > > > I would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through Trevor's > telescope > > > > Owen > >
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I think so. It was a very poor image but not surprising as it was s low down. They had an even more wobbly image of Saturn through Davids telescope :-)
They dropped all the galaxy Zoo stuff so I guess we were lucky for the few minutes we had. It was pretty even between the three of us.
Owen
On Mon 16/11/09 1:02 PM , "Pitt, Trevor" t.pitt@... sent:
Thanks Chris for the offer. Unfortunately, I missed as I had to work
all Saturday night / Sunday morning - one of my forecasters caught the
dreaded virus and the notice was too short to set up the recorder.
Ellie certainly had a good view of the moon through the scope ( okay it
was not a good view as it was low down and through a Meade, but she
could see it). They spent a while seeing if they could catch the moon
through the eyepiece using their camera - did they not show that?
Yes, it was a good piece and the three of you came over very well. I
have made a DVD-R of the whole programme and will endeavour to edit it
down to the three minutes on astronomy to play at a forthcoming meeting
(all things are possible in Linux: the trick is to work out how to do
it!).
Chris
Owen Brazell wrote:
>
>
> Well it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly so a plus
> for the BBC and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the
> wistful image of Ellie J Shame it was such a short piece though.
>
>
>
> I would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through Trevor's
> telescope
>
>
>
> Owen
>
>
Thanks Chris for the offer. Unfortunately, I missed as I had to work
all Saturday night / Sunday morning - one of my forecasters caught the
dreaded virus and the notice was too short to set up the recorder.
Ellie certainly had a good view of the moon through the scope ( okay it
was not a good view as it was low down and through a Meade, but she
could see it). They spent a while seeing if they could catch the moon
through the eyepiece using their camera - did they not show that?
Trevor
-----Original Message-----
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Holt
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:24 PM
To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [abingdonas] Country Tracks
Yes, it was a good piece and the three of you came over very well. I
have made a DVD-R of the whole programme and will endeavour to edit it
down to the three minutes on astronomy to play at a forthcoming meeting
(all things are possible in Linux: the trick is to work out how to do
it!).
Chris
Owen Brazell wrote:
>
>
> Well it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly so a plus
> for the BBC and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the
> wistful image of Ellie J Shame it was such a short piece though.
>
>
>
> I would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through Trevor's
> telescope
>
>
>
> Owen
>
>
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My son who is ex BBC tells me he is almost certain Country
Tracks has had its budget slashed, hence the many outtakes from other
things. Also the whole segment on the Galaxy Zoo was dropped. Good
for us though! I need to explain that I can focus Saturn! The
camera man had great trouble getting his lens in front of my eyepiece however!
The new moon was mine.
David Warr
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Owen Brazell Sent: 15 November 2009 12:39 To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [abingdonas] Country Tracks
Well
it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly so a plus for the BBC
and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the wistful image of Ellie
J Shame it was such a short piece
though.
I
would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through Trevor’s telescope
Yes, it was a good piece and the three of you came over very well. I
have made a DVD-R of the whole programme and will endeavour to edit it
down to the three minutes on astronomy to play at a forthcoming meeting
(all things are possible in Linux: the trick is to work out how to do it!).
Chris
Owen Brazell wrote:
>
>
> Well it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly so a plus
> for the BBC and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the
> wistful image of Ellie J Shame it was such a short piece though.
>
>
>
> I would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through Trevor’s telescope
>
>
>
> Owen
>
>
Ann Davies of Newbury AS has contacted me about a talk at RAL they have
organised with RAL as an IYA 2009 event. The title is 'Climate Change:
What space can teach us about Planet Earth' and the speaker is Dr Maggie
Aderin, a RAL space scientist. The talk is at 7pm on 4th December. A
flyer is attached.
Security at RAL means that names of those attending have to be given in
advance, so don't just turn up on the night. However, if you are
interested in going, please respond to me by email and I will forward
your names to Ann. She asks to know as soon as possible, as there is a
limit on the number of places available.
Chris
After 10pm last night and actually into the early morning there was a clear
sky, or at least patches of it. Another instance of the seeing being fairly
good when the rain clouds have dissipated.
-Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Owen Brazell" <owen@...>
To: <abingdonas@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Well the Leonids will be starting soon (Tuesday) but I doubt from your
description that they would be from that. When did it clear?
Owen
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Brooks
Sent: 14 November 2009 10:43 PM
To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Saw another two tonight (while not really trying, one from the car, one
later outside).
The first was a whopper - 2228UT, 20degrees to the right of Orion, at least
as bright as Venus and flickering as it burnt up, leaving a visible trail.
It was going downwards and had a slight greenish tinge.
(It's odd actually of the freak bright meteors I've seen, green seems to be
a common colour.)
Then there was another uncoloured one overhead later but I didn't get the
time. Are we still in a shower or are these sporadics?
-Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Bellis" <ray@... <mailto:ray%40bellis.me.uk> >
To: <abingdonas@yahoogroups.com <mailto:abingdonas%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Stephen Brooks wrote:
>
>
> Last night, or rather this morning at 5am, I looked out of my window to
> see
> a partly clear (still dark) sky, but saw two meteors in the space of a
> minute or two, just in one direction. Was there a shower on?
Yes - the Orionids.
Ray
Well it finally broadcast and we were not made to look silly
so a plus for the BBC and to Trevor and David for helping out. We even got the
wistful image of Ellie J Shame it
was such a short piece though.
I would like to know if Elie really saw the moon through
Trevor’s telescope
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Murrell Sent: 15 November 2009 9:30 AM To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com Subject: [abingdonas] Country Tracks - Today 11:00
Don't
forget today is your starring role on Country Tracks - BBC1 at 11:00
John
Murrell
Croydon
AS
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Well the Leonids will be starting soon (Tuesday) but I doubt
from your description that they would be from that. When did it clear?
Owen
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Brooks Sent: 14 November 2009 10:43 PM To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Saw another two tonight (while not really
trying, one from the car, one
later outside).
The first was a whopper - 2228UT, 20degrees to the right of Orion, at least
as bright as Venus and flickering as it burnt up, leaving a visible trail.
It was going downwards and had a slight greenish tinge.
(It's odd actually of the freak bright meteors I've seen, green seems to be
a common colour.)
Then there was another uncoloured one overhead later but I didn't get the
time. Are we still in a shower or are these sporadics?
-Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Bellis" <ray@...>
To: <abingdonas@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Stephen Brooks wrote:
>
>
> Last night, or rather this morning at 5am, I looked out of my window to
> see
> a partly clear (still dark) sky, but saw two meteors in the space of a
> minute or two, just in one direction. Was there a shower on?
Saw another two tonight (while not really trying, one from the car, one
later outside).
The first was a whopper - 2228UT, 20degrees to the right of Orion, at least
as bright as Venus and flickering as it burnt up, leaving a visible trail.
It was going downwards and had a slight greenish tinge.
(It's odd actually of the freak bright meteors I've seen, green seems to be
a common colour.)
Then there was another uncoloured one overhead later but I didn't get the
time. Are we still in a shower or are these sporadics?
-Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Bellis" <ray@...>
To: <abingdonas@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [abingdonas] meteors last night
Stephen Brooks wrote:
>
>
> Last night, or rather this morning at 5am, I looked out of my window to
> see
> a partly clear (still dark) sky, but saw two meteors in the space of a
> minute or two, just in one direction. Was there a shower on?
Yes - the Orionids.
Ray
Nice Sunrise; lively rich colours and the crespeculars created by the sun just peaking over the mountains east of Reading add that bit of interest. ;-)
To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com From: t.pitt@... Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:23:44 +0000 Subject: RE: [abingdonas] Venus Saturn and Mercury [2 Attachments]
I mentioned a while back that I had a good seeing morning when Mercury was close to Saturn and both were near to Venus. With the camera I have at present I was not able to do a long enough exposure to see all three in the image and to be honest I could not see Saturn without binocular help, so its not surprising that they are not visible. The Moon is also attached as imaged Afocally on that morning. I also saw Mars of course. It was a good 24 hours, as that night I managed to see all the other planets, Jupiter Neptune and Uranus, so that was a first for me.
On the attached composite, the colours are at a slight enhancement of contrast to show Venus and the other two were taken by afocal photography in the scope.
As you can see I have a clear SE horizon, apart from the silly telecom wires and poles that go to other houses, but the morning was fabulous.
Best regards
Trevor
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Crepuscular rays usually originate between gaps in the cloud, there were a few low clouds visible, but the rays are probably caused by haze / pollution concentrations from Reading. The only thing I did with the image was to enhance the contrast a bit, to be able to see Venus, no colour enhancements were done. If anything, the sky was not quite as black as the image shows, but the sunlight variations were very visible. As for the colours the camera did that bit. Its a Nikon Coolpix, so nothing special, but I did set the camera to night landscape mode and 2 stops overexposed, so that may have something to do with the extra colours.
Trevor
From: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:abingdonas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Dryden Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:41 PM To: abingdonas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [abingdonas] Venus Saturn and Mercury
Trevor
You seem to have some quite nice crepuscular rays as well in the panoramic image. The sky is very purple low down, with quite a sharp cut off point round about the height of the wires. Have you processed the image much or was that the actual colour you saw (or the camera saw anyway)?
Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pitt, Trevor" <t.pitt@geos.com> To: <abingdonas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: RE: [abingdonas] Venus Saturn and Mercury [2 Attachments]
All
I mentioned a while back that I had a good seeing morning when Mercury was close to Saturn and both were near to Venus. With the camera I have at present I was not able to do a long enough exposure to see all three in the image and to be honest I could not see Saturn without binocular help, so its not surprising that they are not visible. The Moon is also attached as imaged Afocally on that morning. I also saw Mars of course. It was a good 24 hours, as that night I managed to see all the other planets, Jupiter Neptune and Uranus, so that was a first for me. On the attached composite, the colours are at a slight enhancement of contrast to show Venus and the other two were taken by afocal photography in the scope. As you can see I have a clear SE horizon, apart from the silly telecom wires and poles that go to other houses, but the morning was fabulous.