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On 23 Nov 2009, at 11:07 PM, absynth-users@yahoogroups.com wrote:


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> 1d. Re: vibrato midi control?
> Posted by: "tomluth@..." tomluth@... tomluth
> Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:54 am ((PST))
>
> Okay, a little off-topic, but it involves Absynth, and any other
> midi controlled synth: I would love a midi vibrato controller that
> would respond to a guitar/violin type finger vibrato. The bend
> wheels tend to be self-centering, and are difficult, at least for
> me, to emulate a good guitar vibrato. I would love to be able to
> add a nice Paul Kossoff vibrato and guitar-like bends to my
> playing; does anyone know of a controller that might work for this?
> There was a synth many years back (was it the CS80?) that allowed
> the player to move the keys much like one would a guitar to produce
> a human sounding vibrato, not dependent of an LFO. Yes, found a
> clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoEkyBX7qsg Would love to get
> this level of control, short of buying a vintage CS80. Thanks much!
>
>

I have CS80, keys are not moving side to side. (Ondes Martenot has
keyboard which moves sideways, sometimes I perform with a friend who
plays Ondes.) Right answer is a ribbon controller. Also some other
historical electronic instruments used fingerboard, like Mixtur
Trautonium or Sonar.

Moog had a big ribbon controller, and small one was was also on some
later Moog instruments - Polymoog Synthesizer, Polymoog Keyboard,
Multimoog, Micromoog, Yamaha analog organ YC30, YC45D.

Some digital instruments - Yamaha AN1x, EX5, EX7..., Korg Z1 has big
touchpad, Prophecy has a movable centered cylindric controller with
ribbon sensor... I really love Korg KaosPad which has big touchpad,
some programs use it for pitch control.

Kurzweil ribbon controller was very good, for use with some Kurzweil
instruments there's an additional PC2SRIB Super Ribbon Controller.
What more - they produced it also as a stand-alone MIDI controller -
ExpressionMate (ribbon + controller box). As a happy owner I can only
recommend this.

Doepfer has also excellent one, see here http://www.doepfer.de/a198.htm

My friend Yuichi Onoue works a lot with hand-made ribbon controllers
- see here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL0aE3t8ftk or here http://
www.myspace.com/yuichionoue, where is a link to his personal page.

Daniel Forro




Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:34 pm

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... I have CS80, keys are not moving side to side. (Ondes Martenot has keyboard which moves sideways, sometimes I perform with a friend who plays Ondes.) Right...
Daniel Forro
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Nov 23, 2009
3:43 pm

Thanks. I guess I presumed the CS80 used a side-to-side vibrato watching the Vangelis video clip. Evidently, the keys are picking up up-and-down pressure...
tomluth@...
tomluth
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Nov 23, 2009
4:36 pm

I've always wanted a sideways aftertouch sensor -- for note-based expression it seems more intuitive to me than channel-pressure aftertouch. I can see pressing...
ashtangakasha
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Nov 25, 2009
5:31 pm

Pretty sure these are capable of the 'side to side' aftertouch you refer to: http://www.eigenlabs.com/store/product/pico/ ... Eddie Sullivan Sales Consultant ...
Eddie Sullivan
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Nov 25, 2009
5:54 pm

Pretty sure these are capable of the 'side to side' aftertouch you refer to: http://www.eigenlabs.com/store/product/pico/ Ah, Very cool. I hadn't seen this...
tomluth@...
tomluth
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Nov 25, 2009
6:17 pm

I have seen the Eignenlabs demos. The specs sound great and claim great sensitivity. The keys are very small. I would love to see a demo demonstrating find...
lux_seeker
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Nov 26, 2009
2:35 am

Yes, they are side-to-side, but its driver is MAC only. And I was hoping for a pianoforte-style keyboard, although I could train myself to blow very hard on...
ashtangakasha
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Nov 27, 2009
1:37 pm

Perhaps something like this? http://www.analoguesystems.co.uk/Reviews/fconnection_review.htm Very expensive but I have always been a fan on the Ondes Martenot,...
lux_seeker
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Nov 26, 2009
2:24 am

Wasn't there a Moog keyboard that had keys that pulled out toward the player to change pitch or whatever? Or maybe I remember incorrectly . . . ... [Non-text...
John McJunkin
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Nov 26, 2009
2:47 am

Yep, it was called the MoogerYanker. It was stored in rolls and you just pull out what you need... ... "Until we know what reality actually is, we should not...
steve scallion
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Nov 26, 2009
2:57 am

Classic Scallion - you should send that one to Moog....
lux_seeker
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Dec 9, 2009
2:35 am

Missed that one first time around - pretty funny indeed! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
John McJunkin
rushman83
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Dec 9, 2009
3:13 am

Not really aware of it but it could be. However, the control of an Ondes or the French Connection which its modelled after is very fine and done with a ring...
lux_seeker
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Dec 2, 2009
2:17 am

It's unquestionably tres cool (froid?), but alas, no MIDI. a...
ashtangakasha
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Nov 27, 2009
1:38 pm
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