Okay, a little off-topic, but it involves Absynth, and any other midi controlled
synth: I would love a midi vibrato controller that would respond to a
guitar/violin type finger vibrato. The bend wheels tend to be self-centering,
and are difficult, at least for me, to emulate a good guitar vibrato. I would
love to be able to add a nice Paul Kossoff vibrato and guitar-like bends to my
playing; does anyone know of a controller that might work for this? There was a
synth many years back (was it the CS80?) that allowed the player to move the
keys much like one would a guitar to produce a human sounding vibrato, not
dependent of an LFO. Yes, found a clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoEkyBX7qsg  Would love to get this level of
control, short of buying a vintage CS80. Thanks much!


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This is an interesting question, although at first the answer is pretty simple.

Unless you want to get into the syntactic distinction between "sound" and "heard
sound" (which I see by your other reply you do), we can at least temporarily
take "sound" as a catch-all term for the pattern of radiating density waves
produced by a physical event. Psychologically, sure, if you're not listening, or
deaf, or not there, or overshadowed by something else (like absinth), then
you'll miss the vibes, but they're still there.

So, looking at the vibes, or sound, we can define timbre as the history of that
sound's partials, and we can define pitch as the frequency of that sound's
fundamental or most noticeable partial.

Unfortunately, pitch doesn't even apply to innumerable sounds that are
nonetheless recognizable. White noise is the most obvious example. It has a most
distinctive timbre, while it has no pitch at all. Or all pitches, if you prefer,
which is equally meaningless.

So, to answer your question, there is no essential relationship between pitch
and timbre. There is, however, a relationship between our ability to perceive
pitch and our ability to perceive timbre. But you didn't ask about that.

Allen



--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@...> wrote:
>
> What is the relationship between pitch and timbre? - a bit more complicated a
question then one might think.
>

Timber can be used to build things, pitch helps seal holes. Pitch can also help
timber burn...

- Colin <== that's called "doing a Scallion" ;-)

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@...> wrote:
>
> What is the relationship between pitch and timbre? - a bit more complicated a
question then one might think.
>

A few fundamentals help see the inherent dillemas here:

1.  Frequency is dependent on time.

2.  Timbre is also dependent on time

This is the interesting one.  Take that brass instrument cut off the attack and
it is barely able to be indentified.  For plucked instruments this is even more
the case.

3. Pitch is percieved

If a trumpet is blown in a forest by a someone who can't hear and no one else is
there, it will not really make a sound.  The air around it will vibrate but no
one will percieve it.  Pitch is percieved unlike frequency which is a
mathematical construct.

I once composed a song and I used a sample of a dudek, a middle eastern
instrument but when I played it I bent the notes up using the pitch wheel.  This
is a celtic technique I have heard in a lot of Irish music and someone commented
to me that it has an Irish sound not knowing why.  What was identified was not
timbre but the movement of the pitch.

So the truth is that we don't hear waveforms.  We hear sound which is dynamic
and moving and its this that he brain latches onto the same way we hear
language.  If langauge was made up of a sequence of waveforms, it would never
work.

The reason for the ingominous and ficititious tatoo :) and my support of Absynth
is that one of the things I like about it are the envelopes.  In fact, to me,
its flexible envelopes are its greatest feature.  The secret of all music is how
it changes over time.

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, steve scallion <scallion@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure there are many complex answers,  but have you noticed we
> seldom confuse the two?  The tone (or timbre) of the instrument
> defines the physical makeup, and its resonation.  Brass sounds like
> brass. Change the pitch and the brass metal sound is still there.
> But our ears may not clarify this when the frequency range is
> extreme.  However, animals can identify it, so the science still
> holds true.  The reason the two terms seem more complex in definition
> is to describe accurately what it means from our point of view.
>
> This is, I must say, my own definition.  There may be others out there.
>
> Yours in the vibration of the Periodic Chart,
>
> scallione
> IXXIV
>
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2009, at 10:25 AM, lux_seeker wrote:
>
> > What is the relationship between pitch and timbre? - a bit more
> > complicated a question then one might think.
> >
> >
> >
>
> "Until we know what reality actually is, we should not dabble in it!"
> -scallion, 2053
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm sure there are many complex answers,  but have you noticed we
seldom confuse the two?  The tone (or timbre) of the instrument
defines the physical makeup, and its resonation.  Brass sounds like
brass. Change the pitch and the brass metal sound is still there.
But our ears may not clarify this when the frequency range is
extreme.  However, animals can identify it, so the science still
holds true.  The reason the two terms seem more complex in definition
is to describe accurately what it means from our point of view.

This is, I must say, my own definition.  There may be others out there.

Yours in the vibration of the Periodic Chart,

scallione
IXXIV



On Nov 21, 2009, at 10:25 AM, lux_seeker wrote:

> What is the relationship between pitch and timbre? - a bit more
> complicated a question then one might think.
>
>
>

"Until we know what reality actually is, we should not dabble in it!"
-scallion, 2053





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"Hi Lux"

I hope your new Absynth tattoo is healing nicely.  You have a lot of
courage to get one on that part of the body...  Van Helsing would be
proud:)

"scallioneo"
IXXVI

On Nov 21, 2009, at 10:24 AM, lux_seeker wrote:

> Nice pics Steve - and by the way:
>
> "Hi Steve" - just got an impulse to say that
>
> --- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "stevescallion"
> <scallion@...> wrote:
> >
> > As promised, here is a set of still shots from our new video,
> "All for Knowledge". Hope y'all like them...
> >
> > scallion stefano
> > Absynth Advocate
> >
> > Go here to see pics:
> > http://www2.arkansas.net/~scallion/AllForKnowledge.html
> >
> > To learn about Pax Amere (actress, musician, programmer), go
> here: http://www.myspace.com/paxamere
> >
>
>
>

"Until we know what reality actually is, we should not dabble in it!"
-scallion, 2053





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What is the relationship between pitch and timbre? - a bit more complicated a
question then one might think.

Nice pics Steve - and by the way:

"Hi Steve" - just got an impulse to say that

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "stevescallion" <scallion@...> wrote:
>
> As promised, here is a set of still shots from our new video, "All for
Knowledge".  Hope y'all like them...
>
> scallion stefano
> Absynth Advocate
>
> Go here to see pics:
> http://www2.arkansas.net/~scallion/AllForKnowledge.html
>
> To learn about Pax Amere (actress, musician, programmer), go here:
http://www.myspace.com/paxamere
>

Hi Steve,




________________________________
From: stevescallion <scallion@...>
To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 11:31:45 PM
Subject: [Absynth] Pics from new film


As promised, here is a set of still shots from our new video, "All for
Knowledge".  Hope y'all like them...

scallion stefano
Absynth Advocate

Go here to see pics:
http://www2. arkansas. net/~scallion/ AllForKnowledge. html

To learn about Pax Amere (actress, musician, programmer), go here:
http://www.myspace. com/paxamere


Nice pics, thanks.

ciao,
furlan







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Hi Furlan

> Hi,
>
> I finally got the activation working on Absynth 5. I took all the defaults
when installing (except for the drive where it is located).
>
> It seems to be working except that it doesn't doesn't recognize my MIDI
controller. Absynth 4 is working just fine. Invoking Absynth 5 allows me to use
the virtual keyboard at the bottom of the interface as well as typing keys on
the keyboard yet plays NOTHING when using the MIDI controller.
>
> The MIDI settings do not show anything ON for the input.

Did you turn a midi input on? (click where it says off). They might be off by
default.

Cheers,
Brian




>
> This is in stand alone mode, it seems to be working in SONAR as a plug-in.
>
> My controller is an Edirol PCR-M50 using a USB cable. It is working in other
applications. Anyone else experiencing this?  Any fixes?
>
> TIA
>
> ciao,
> furlan
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>

As promised, here is a set of still shots from our new video, "All for
Knowledge".  Hope y'all like them...

scallion stefano
Absynth Advocate

Go here to see pics:
http://www2.arkansas.net/~scallion/AllForKnowledge.html

To learn about Pax Amere (actress, musician, programmer), go here:
http://www.myspace.com/paxamere

Hi,

I finally got the activation working on Absynth 5. I took all the defaults when
installing (except for the drive where it is located).

It seems to be working except that it doesn't doesn't recognize my MIDI
controller. Absynth 4 is working just fine. Invoking Absynth 5 allows me to use
the virtual keyboard at the bottom of the interface as well as typing keys on
the keyboard yet plays NOTHING when using the MIDI controller.

The MIDI settings do not show anything ON for the input.

This is in stand alone mode, it seems to be working in SONAR as a plug-in.

My controller is an Edirol PCR-M50 using a USB cable. It is working in other
applications. Anyone else experiencing this?  Any fixes?

TIA

ciao,
furlan

No doubt there the enlightened Scallion knows the secrets of the DC street
design as well, hence the signed appendage.

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, steve scallion <scallion@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, guys!  It's good to be needed, and the world seems right for
> some intellectual nonsense...
>
> I have been quite busy creating videos for You Tube.  I have taken
> songs off the second album, and have started a visual concept of each
> choice.  The latest is a space epic thing that some of you have
> already seen.
> The new one, in progress, is "All for Knowledge", which involves a
> sarcophagus, a four thousand year old Queen Entity (60 feet tall),
> and a group of archeologists who accidently unearth it.  For those
> that are interested, I will send pics of the still shots taken from
> the video, which also features Pax Amere, (the actress who plays the
> Queen) and emulates the style used in films like "Jason and the
> Argonauts" and "Clash of the Titans".  We spent many hours in front
> of a green screen to get all the shots.
>
> The soundtrack, as usual, contains many Absynth samples, mangled a
> bit further.  It works especially well for the surreal arias needed
> to properly describe the Queen's personality.  I like spreading out
> the layers to get a broad ambience.  It gives a feeling of mysterious
> bigness.
>
> When creating film footage, I listen for the hard drum beats (usually
> Absynth) and pace the action to peak at the moments of impact.  It's
> very much like composing music, with plugin equivalents of the kind
> we use in audio.  Example:   "Distortion", in the audible sense, is
> also "Blur" in the visual sense.  At least that's how I see it, and
> it helps me get it done...
>
> Currently, Absynth still has a uniqueness that is a part of my
> signature sound (if I actually have one) and I will continue to use
> it for the added strangeness.  Let's hope Brian doesn't become too
> normal.
>
> scallione
> Illuminatus IXIV
>
>
> P.S..  If Brian gets famous enough, he could be called "Clevvy" and
> then he could hang out with Skippy, and they could make Excellent
> Adventure type movies... then again, maybe not.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:50 AM, lux_seeker wrote:
>
> > I have been looking at the lastest posts on the board and have
> > noticed one large hole which I hope to remedy, the ineffible
> > linguistic absynthian word play of the lurking Steve Scallion.
> > Perhaps, a few posts on the joys of Absynth 5 would bring even more
> > life to this board.
> >
> > Hope you are well Steve :)
> >
> >
> >
>
> "Until we know what reality actually is, we should not dabble in it!"
> -scallion, 2053
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

No, I like it, with Absynth music in the background.

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, Will Grant <will@...> wrote:
>
> Britey and Skippy might be more hollywood
> the lemonzingers
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:53 PM, steve scallion wrote:
> P.S..  If Brian gets famous enough, he could be called "Clevvy" and
> then he could hang out with Skippy, and they could make Excellent
> Adventure type movies... then again, maybe not.
>

Britey and Skippy might be more hollywood
the lemonzingers

--------------------------------------------------------------------
On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:53 PM, steve scallion wrote:
P.S..  If Brian gets famous enough, he could be called "Clevvy" and
then he could hang out with Skippy, and they could make Excellent
Adventure type movies... then again, maybe not.

Thanks, guys!  It's good to be needed, and the world seems right for
some intellectual nonsense...

I have been quite busy creating videos for You Tube.  I have taken
songs off the second album, and have started a visual concept of each
choice.  The latest is a space epic thing that some of you have
already seen.
The new one, in progress, is "All for Knowledge", which involves a
sarcophagus, a four thousand year old Queen Entity (60 feet tall),
and a group of archeologists who accidently unearth it.  For those
that are interested, I will send pics of the still shots taken from
the video, which also features Pax Amere, (the actress who plays the
Queen) and emulates the style used in films like "Jason and the
Argonauts" and "Clash of the Titans".  We spent many hours in front
of a green screen to get all the shots.

The soundtrack, as usual, contains many Absynth samples, mangled a
bit further.  It works especially well for the surreal arias needed
to properly describe the Queen's personality.  I like spreading out
the layers to get a broad ambience.  It gives a feeling of mysterious
bigness.

When creating film footage, I listen for the hard drum beats (usually
Absynth) and pace the action to peak at the moments of impact.  It's
very much like composing music, with plugin equivalents of the kind
we use in audio.  Example:   "Distortion", in the audible sense, is
also "Blur" in the visual sense.  At least that's how I see it, and
it helps me get it done...

Currently, Absynth still has a uniqueness that is a part of my
signature sound (if I actually have one) and I will continue to use
it for the added strangeness.  Let's hope Brian doesn't become too
normal.

scallione
Illuminatus IXIV


P.S..  If Brian gets famous enough, he could be called "Clevvy" and
then he could hang out with Skippy, and they could make Excellent
Adventure type movies... then again, maybe not.


On Nov 20, 2009, at 7:50 AM, lux_seeker wrote:

> I have been looking at the lastest posts on the board and have
> noticed one large hole which I hope to remedy, the ineffible
> linguistic absynthian word play of the lurking Steve Scallion.
> Perhaps, a few posts on the joys of Absynth 5 would bring even more
> life to this board.
>
> Hope you are well Steve :)
>
>
>

"Until we know what reality actually is, we should not dabble in it!"
-scallion, 2053





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Good,Steve, we await those Absynthian words of wisdom.

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "ashtangakasha" <a@...> wrote:
>
> I had to suppress Scallion for a little while, because his brainpan was
inadequately ventilated and was in danger of overheating. But he is better now
and will be allowed once again to speak.
>
>
> x
>
>
>
> --- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@> wrote:
> >
> > I have been looking at the lastest posts on the board and have noticed one
large hole which I hope to remedy, the ineffible linguistic absynthian word play
of the lurking Steve Scallion.  Perhaps, a few posts on the joys of Absynth 5
would bring even more life to this board.
> >
> > Hope you are well Steve :)
> >
>

Yes, I know about Volta.  Unfortuntely it's only Mac compatible and at the time
I don't have a PowerMac although I plan on getting one eventually, its on the
list.  Expert Sleepers "Silent Way" is a good program, cheaper than Volta (I
think) and while I have not researched it probably does what Volta does and
perhaps some things that "Volta" does not do.

As for the endless analogue/digital/soft synth enless deate, truth is I am not
one for picking opposing sides and believe me, I am not getting rid of my plug
is.  I was using a few last night.  I suppose one does have to trade off the pro
and cons and you did a great job of speaking of them.  I suppose a PowerMac will
eliminate some of my software woes but not all and I hopefull will stop
expanding what I have.  What I am really trying to do now is intergrate hardware
and software.  I think products like Volta and "Silent Way" are leading the way
to a revolution in synthesis.

The one beef that I have with software is by it's very nature its just that,
software.  It runs a program.  The same is true of any digital synthesizer
although they are more stable than a VST which is why you don't see a lot of
bands using soft synths on stage.  But an analogue synth and most notably a
modular is a very different animal.  With the expansion box, Moogerfoogers and a
CP-251 processor the system I have works a bit like a modular.  I will probably
get some modular gear but now much because the Voyager is modular like with the
CV plugs in the back (and there are a lot of them unlike any analogue synth that
I know of).

Now I can set up what I have quickly.  I also have a Korg M3 and that is heavy
because its 88 keys but the Voyager I can carry with one hand and the foogers
are all on a rack with the CP 251 separate.  I could move and setup the whole
thing in less than 1/2 a day.

I am adding a stand for a laptop and will integrate everything with a patch bay.
I play on connecting everything next week with snake cable which makes things
very organized and eliminates cable spaghetti.  I have carefull planned the
layout.  Audio and CV/gates are kept on separate patch bays and I have color
coded all of this in an Excel spread sheet so this should keep confusion at a
minimum.

This gets me to the real reason I have an analogue synthesizer.  simply put, I
can plug things into things that there is no way that a computer program would
let me do.  Programs are limiting.  If you can find a module or even make one,
CV can do whatever you want it to.  You can mix them, amplify them, lag them,
use all sort of DIY type controllers for them, the universe is unlimited so yes,
I see some advantages to my monophonic anlalogue at times and beleive me, its
made sounds at times that have amazed me and frankly, that I can't get from any
of my soft synths.

So I am still going to get upgrades of my soft synths although I have stopped
buying new ones because I have what I want and when I get a few modules and a
PowerMac I will have a nice hybrid studio with soft/hard, analogue/digital all
in one place and all connected.

Absynth still remains a mainstay for me because it can do things that I can do
with a analogue or anything else for that mattar.

by the way, Virsyn seems to be out of the synth business, easier to make so so
effects I guess.  To bad, they showed a lot of promise.



--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "ashtangakasha" <a@...> wrote:
>
> Ahh, too bad our timing is off. (By about 10 years.)
>
> I just donated my entire MIDI studio (about 10 years ago), with racks of
synths and processors and literally HUNDREDS of MIDI cables and audio cables, to
Sierra Nevada College. Got a nice tax writeoff, too.
>
> The feeling of relief and joy was overwhelming. I had been moving to a new
house every year or so for quite some time, and it took about three days to
disconnect everything and crudely package it for transport to a new studio
space. Then it took about two weeks to get everything mounted and connected and
properly tweaked again. Each time, I had worn my fingertips down to the bone,
and there were flecks of dried skin on all the TRS jacks. Just cleaning up all
the connectors and removing the dried sweat and tears of frustration took days.
Waiting for the blisters to heal and the lower back pain to subside put a major
crimp in my projects.
>
> But suddenly, it was all SOFTWARE! I was free as a bird! (With a satchel of
CDs.)
>
> My heart goes out to you. I wish you all the joys of hardware, no longer
cursed by flakey computers, incompatible sample rates, loose mini-plugs,
insufficient screen space, etc., etc.
>
> Instead, you can enjoy the fading backlights on tiny LCD displays, hundreds of
cables with clean noise-free pins and jacks, a dozen outlet strips in a
spaghetti celebration of wall-warts and 3-way plugs, and all those fascinating
places to look for the inspiring 60Hz hum.
>
> I wish I could have given you my studio full of stuff. I know you'd have made
great use of it. But at least you can look forward to many years of joy and
relaxation and delight.
>
> Yours very extremely sincerely in virtual-synth heaven,
>
> ac
>
> PS: There are ways to get CVs out of any sound source. You don't have to use
the actual envelope itself -- you can just use the envelope to control the
amplitude of a signal (say, 10kHz) and then run that through an envelope
follower. But there's also Volta (MAC only) that does pretty much the same thing
in software, using your audio interface.
http://www.motu.com/products/software/volta. You would need a multi-channel
interface to get enough CVs to be fun, of course. Volta is designed for plenty
of expansion.
>
>
>
> --- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@> wrote:
> >
> > Just wanted to post something quickly to say a few things.  Glad to see the
new Absynth has spurred more activity on this board.  Things wan and wax from
time to time here but this board is one of the most unique I have seen in terms
of longevity.
> >
> > I have not posted in a while because I have frankly not done a lot with
Absynth lately.  I have definately taken a turn over to the darker side of
analogue and have been even considering getting a modular.  I know what a CV is
and I know how to use it :)  Lately I have been trying to wire hardware in an
effective way into patchbays and eventually join my software and hardware with a
Macbook pro which will be exclusively a laptop for music and retire my Desktop
for musical activities.
> >
> > I have a Moog Voyager now and some moogerfoogers with patch cables all over
the place.  Truth is that some of the sounds I get I have never heard come out
of a computer ever.  I have not abandoned computers at all but it been a
refreshing change to work with analogue electronics which are definately a
different animal when you are talking control voltage.
> >
> > Absynth 5 looks great and when I migrate my synths to a Macbook I will get
the new Komplete.  I have defintely gravitated towards NI products.  NI
continues to support products and come up with not only upgrades but new
innovations although I still would like to see Spectral Delay return.  Perhaps
somethng can be integrated into Absynth 5?
> >
> > One other suggestion.  It would be relatively simple (I think although I am
not a programmer) , to allow Absynth to send CVs through a DC couples interface.
Allowing envelopes to be created in the envelope window that control
synthesizers and even Moogerfoogers would be increbile.  Absynth's envelopes are
the best in the industry right now in my opinions and as a devote of analogue
and digital, I love to see anything that joins this worlds together.
> >
> > I would love to hear what an Absynth patch joined directly via envelopes
would sound like with an analogue synth.
> >
> > Once again, glad to see so much life here on the board.  When I get things
straightened out I will let you know about my explorations into Absynth 5.
> >
> > John M.
> >
>

Hi Brian,




________________________________
From: Brian Clevinger <brian@...>
To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 8:26:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Absynth] absynthsounds


Hi Furlan,

I'm very sorry to hear you're having trouble. I'm contacting NI today to see
what's going on. It sounds like there might be server problems or something,
usually when I register products it's not slow or anything.

That has been my experience in the past as well.


Have you contacted customer support? Also what OS are you using?
Only about the lack of serial number. I have since received that. It is in
attempting to register it that I experienced this (new) issue. I invoked the
Service Center from ABSYNTH 5 to register, usually if there is new SC software
available it just seems to do the SC upgrade and the return me back to the
program once updated. I just got home from work and will make another attempt,
maybe this time it'll just work :-P
Windows XP.   I ONLY use that box for doing music, upgrading my music
applications, not normal surfing.

I'll let you know later what i find out.
Thanks.

Best,
Brian

Music: http://www.myspace.com/acidredux
Home: http://flprim.us/index.html

"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."
-- Dorothy Parker




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I had to suppress Scallion for a little while, because his brainpan was
inadequately ventilated and was in danger of overheating. But he is better now
and will be allowed once again to speak.


x



--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@...> wrote:
>
> I have been looking at the lastest posts on the board and have noticed one
large hole which I hope to remedy, the ineffible linguistic absynthian word play
of the lurking Steve Scallion.  Perhaps, a few posts on the joys of Absynth 5
would bring even more life to this board.
>
> Hope you are well Steve :)
>

Ahh, too bad our timing is off. (By about 10 years.)

I just donated my entire MIDI studio (about 10 years ago), with racks of synths
and processors and literally HUNDREDS of MIDI cables and audio cables, to Sierra
Nevada College. Got a nice tax writeoff, too.

The feeling of relief and joy was overwhelming. I had been moving to a new house
every year or so for quite some time, and it took about three days to disconnect
everything and crudely package it for transport to a new studio space. Then it
took about two weeks to get everything mounted and connected and properly
tweaked again. Each time, I had worn my fingertips down to the bone, and there
were flecks of dried skin on all the TRS jacks. Just cleaning up all the
connectors and removing the dried sweat and tears of frustration took days.
Waiting for the blisters to heal and the lower back pain to subside put a major
crimp in my projects.

But suddenly, it was all SOFTWARE! I was free as a bird! (With a satchel of
CDs.)

My heart goes out to you. I wish you all the joys of hardware, no longer cursed
by flakey computers, incompatible sample rates, loose mini-plugs, insufficient
screen space, etc., etc.

Instead, you can enjoy the fading backlights on tiny LCD displays, hundreds of
cables with clean noise-free pins and jacks, a dozen outlet strips in a
spaghetti celebration of wall-warts and 3-way plugs, and all those fascinating
places to look for the inspiring 60Hz hum.

I wish I could have given you my studio full of stuff. I know you'd have made
great use of it. But at least you can look forward to many years of joy and
relaxation and delight.

Yours very extremely sincerely in virtual-synth heaven,

ac

PS: There are ways to get CVs out of any sound source. You don't have to use the
actual envelope itself -- you can just use the envelope to control the amplitude
of a signal (say, 10kHz) and then run that through an envelope follower. But
there's also Volta (MAC only) that does pretty much the same thing in software,
using your audio interface. http://www.motu.com/products/software/volta. You
would need a multi-channel interface to get enough CVs to be fun, of course.
Volta is designed for plenty of expansion.



--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to post something quickly to say a few things.  Glad to see the
new Absynth has spurred more activity on this board.  Things wan and wax from
time to time here but this board is one of the most unique I have seen in terms
of longevity.
>
> I have not posted in a while because I have frankly not done a lot with
Absynth lately.  I have definately taken a turn over to the darker side of
analogue and have been even considering getting a modular.  I know what a CV is
and I know how to use it :)  Lately I have been trying to wire hardware in an
effective way into patchbays and eventually join my software and hardware with a
Macbook pro which will be exclusively a laptop for music and retire my Desktop
for musical activities.
>
> I have a Moog Voyager now and some moogerfoogers with patch cables all over
the place.  Truth is that some of the sounds I get I have never heard come out
of a computer ever.  I have not abandoned computers at all but it been a
refreshing change to work with analogue electronics which are definately a
different animal when you are talking control voltage.
>
> Absynth 5 looks great and when I migrate my synths to a Macbook I will get the
new Komplete.  I have defintely gravitated towards NI products.  NI continues to
support products and come up with not only upgrades but new innovations although
I still would like to see Spectral Delay return.  Perhaps somethng can be
integrated into Absynth 5?
>
> One other suggestion.  It would be relatively simple (I think although I am
not a programmer) , to allow Absynth to send CVs through a DC couples interface.
Allowing envelopes to be created in the envelope window that control
synthesizers and even Moogerfoogers would be increbile.  Absynth's envelopes are
the best in the industry right now in my opinions and as a devote of analogue
and digital, I love to see anything that joins this worlds together.
>
> I would love to hear what an Absynth patch joined directly via envelopes would
sound like with an analogue synth.
>
> Once again, glad to see so much life here on the board.  When I get things
straightened out I will let you know about my explorations into Absynth 5.
>
> John M.
>

A good rule of thumb.

But it doesn't explain why you waited a month to reply to this.

That tells me something about what you are actually up to.

Don't think I didn't notice this.

I'm monitoring all your posts, and the hidden messages are being decoded right
now. In fact, I've decoded a LOT of them, and you're not the only one on the
forum who is spying and sending secret directives. I have other sources.

I'm putting up an extra layer of aluminum foil tonight, so don't bother boosting
your signals.

And don't think I'm stupid enough to load the "acid ref LUX" patch into Absynth5
without first disabling my internet connection.


<name withheld>



--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "lux_seeker" <Lux_Seeker@...> wrote:
>
> Allen:
>
> Just because your paranoid it does not mean that they are not out to get you
:)
>
> --- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "ashtangakasha" <a@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hah! Then I'm not crazy.
> >
> > They *are* all spies and they *are* trying to kill me!
> >
> > Thanks, e.
> >
> > a

I have been looking at the lastest posts on the board and have noticed one large
hole which I hope to remedy, the ineffible linguistic absynthian word play of
the lurking Steve Scallion.  Perhaps, a few posts on the joys of Absynth 5 would
bring even more life to this board.

Hope you are well Steve :)

Just wanted to post something quickly to say a few things.  Glad to see the new
Absynth has spurred more activity on this board.  Things wan and wax from time
to time here but this board is one of the most unique I have seen in terms of
longevity.

I have not posted in a while because I have frankly not done a lot with Absynth
lately.  I have definately taken a turn over to the darker side of analogue and
have been even considering getting a modular.  I know what a CV is and I know
how to use it :)  Lately I have been trying to wire hardware in an effective way
into patchbays and eventually join my software and hardware with a Macbook pro
which will be exclusively a laptop for music and retire my Desktop for musical
activities.

I have a Moog Voyager now and some moogerfoogers with patch cables all over the
place.  Truth is that some of the sounds I get I have never heard come out of a
computer ever.  I have not abandoned computers at all but it been a refreshing
change to work with analogue electronics which are definately a different animal
when you are talking control voltage.

Absynth 5 looks great and when I migrate my synths to a Macbook I will get the
new Komplete.  I have defintely gravitated towards NI products.  NI continues to
support products and come up with not only upgrades but new innovations although
I still would like to see Spectral Delay return.  Perhaps somethng can be
integrated into Absynth 5?

One other suggestion.  It would be relatively simple (I think although I am not
a programmer) , to allow Absynth to send CVs through a DC couples interface. 
Allowing envelopes to be created in the envelope window that control
synthesizers and even Moogerfoogers would be increbile.  Absynth's envelopes are
the best in the industry right now in my opinions and as a devote of analogue
and digital, I love to see anything that joins this worlds together.

I would love to hear what an Absynth patch joined directly via envelopes would
sound like with an analogue synth.

Once again, glad to see so much life here on the board.  When I get things
straightened out I will let you know about my explorations into Absynth 5.

John M.

Allen:

Just because your paranoid it does not mean that they are not out to get you :)

--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, "ashtangakasha" <a@...> wrote:
>
> Hah! Then I'm not crazy.
>
> They *are* all spies and they *are* trying to kill me!
>
> Thanks, e.
>
> a
>
>
> --- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, Eric Wistrand <ewistrand@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A known issue, sorry to say. It should be fixed with the next update.
> >
> >
> >
> > ew
> >
> >
> >
> > To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
> > From: a@...
> > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:56:16 +0000
> > Subject: [Absynth] Ab5 - Shift Harmonics
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In Ab5, Wave editing window, Spectrum display, the Transform dropdown
provides a Shift Harmonics function.
> >
> > The dialog box that comes up doesn't give any unit of measurement, but it
allows values within the range -64..+64.
> >
> > I could swear that I have used this in the past and it shifts the spectrum
bars right or left, drastically affecting the sound of the current wave.
> >
> > But now when I use it, I can't hear any change, and I don't see any effect
in the Spectrum display.
> >
> > My patch couldn't be simpler -- Osc A uses a single edit wave, and nothing
else is in the signal chain.
> >
> > When I scroll the value button for offset, I can hear the engine glitching,
as if it's doing something, but the end result is no change in the sound.
> >
> > Am I missing something? I've been using Ab since 2002, but now I am doubting
my sanity. Which goes way back before 2002, actually, but what the heck.
> >
> > allen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi Furlan,

I'm very sorry to hear you're having trouble. I'm contacting NI today to see
what's going on. It sounds like there might be server problems or something,
usually when I register products it's not slow or anything.

Have you contacted customer support? Also what OS are you using?

I'll let you know later what i find out.

Best,
Brian



> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brian Clevinger <brian@...>
> To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 1:34:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Absynth] absynthsounds
>
>
> Hmmm........
>
>> Not sure what it means- but absyn.com is one of the coolest and most
>> surrealistic pages on the net right now... (the domain associated with
>> Brian's email lol)
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Brian Clevinger wrote:
>>
>>> ...and a blog dedicated to creating sounds with Absynth:
>>> http://absynthsound s.blogspot. com/
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brian
>
> You have created a very wonderful program. I have been using it since version
3. I recently got an upgrade to version 5. Unfortunately your company didn't
bother to issue me a serial number when I paid for the upgrade. I eventually got
the number, Now I have been waiting an inordinate amount of time attempting to
register it. It says that it was upgrading. Upgrading what I have no clue. After
the 'upgrade' I had to reboot my machine. After rebooting I went back to the
service center yet again and it is taking a LONG time to upgrade yet again. I
have NO CLUE as to what it is upgrading and my patience is running very thin. I
do NOT know what the problem here is and I don't really care and I BET that the
idiots who are stealing this software don't have to go through the crap that you
guys are putting us real paying customers through. AS I am upgrading WHY do I
need to be assigned yet another number and have to wait an enormous amount of
time to use a
> product that I have paid for already. I need to get to sleep as work beckons
in the morning. I will turn off the process tonight and try again tomorrow when
I get home from work. I am NOT a happy customer to say the least and will
consider long and hard any further purchases in the future if I have to be put
through this again... I don't know WHAT the problem is and quite honestly I do
not care. All I know is that I spent good money for an upgrade and have
experienced nothing but annoyance in attempting to use that which I have already
paid for.
> ciao,
> furlan
> Music: http://www.myspace.com/acidredux
> Home: http://flprim.us/index.html
>
> "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."
> -- Dorothy Parker
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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Links------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>

Hi Brian,




________________________________
From: Brian Clevinger <brian@...>
To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 1:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Absynth] absynthsounds


Hmmm........

> Not sure what it means- but absyn.com is one of the coolest and most
> surrealistic pages on the net right now... (the domain associated with
> Brian's email lol)
>
> On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Brian Clevinger wrote:
>
>> ...and a blog dedicated to creating sounds with Absynth:
>> http://absynthsound s.blogspot. com/
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brian

You have created a very wonderful program. I have been using it since version 3.
I recently got an upgrade to version 5. Unfortunately your company didn't bother
to issue me a serial number when I paid for the upgrade. I eventually got the
number, Now I have been waiting an inordinate amount of time attempting to
register it. It says that it was upgrading. Upgrading what I have no clue. After
the 'upgrade' I had to reboot my machine. After rebooting I went back to the
service center yet again and it is taking a LONG time to upgrade yet again. I
have NO CLUE as to what it is upgrading and my patience is running very thin. I
do NOT know what the problem here is and I don't really care and I BET that the
idiots who are stealing this software don't have to go through the crap that you
guys are putting us real paying customers through. AS I am upgrading WHY do I
need to be assigned yet another number and have to wait an enormous amount of
time to use a
  product that I have paid for already. I need to get to sleep as work beckons in
the morning. I will turn off the process tonight and try again tomorrow when I
get home from work. I am NOT a happy customer to say the least and will consider
long and hard any further purchases in the future if I have to be put through
this again... I don't know WHAT the problem is and quite honestly I do not care.
All I know is that I spent good money for an upgrade and have experienced
nothing but annoyance in attempting to use that which I have already paid for.
ciao,
furlan
Music: http://www.myspace.com/acidredux
Home: http://flprim.us/index.html

"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."
-- Dorothy Parker




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Eric,


I realize that this is none of yr concern and you seem to have NI's ear.

The other day I upgraded ABSYNTH 4 to ABSYNTH 5. I got the download, the email
from NI kinda sorta didn't bother to give me a usable serial number, in fact
they gave me NO SERIAL NUMBER at all. I have written to them and have so far not
gotten any response at all. I DID however get a new email asking me to spend
even MORE money with  them which I found a bit ironic given that they have not
made good on what I have previously purchased. I would have directed that to
Brian except that you came up first... ;-P

Could you put in a good word w/ them for me?  TIA

I REALLY would have preferred to upgrade via a real 'delivered in the mail' box
like the last time and the email that they sent didn't seem to make that option
available, unless I missed that.

I also do not find the manual in the documentation folder as implied in the
'getting started pdf'.

Once again, I appreciate any help that you can lend to this issue.

ciao,
f
Music: http://www.myspace.com/acidredux
Home:  http://flprim.us/index.html


"The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."
-- Dorothy Parker

?



Jiust load it like any other plugin...



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To: absynth-users@yahoogroups.com
From: johndgore@...
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:10:19 -0500
Subject: [Absynth] vst hosts





Asked this before with no response. I bought AB5 as an upgrade and want
to load it in more than one vst host. How do I do this? Thanks in advance.





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these mp3 demos sound very interesting to me....
what a phantastic "synth" this is.


--- In absynth-users@yahoogroups.com, Brian Clevinger <brian@...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Absynthesists,
>
> Simon Stockhausen, who did many extraordinary factory sounds for
> Absynth 5, now has a site where you can download new Absynth 5 sounds :
> http://www.absynthsounds.com
>
> ...and a blog dedicated to creating sounds with Absynth:
> http://absynthsounds.blogspot.com/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
>