Apologies -- I should have been clearer. I didn't interpret "strange" in the strict mathematical sense. Rather, I took strange loop to mean a loop from which...
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Sounds like my mother, and she doesn't drink beer or whiskey! D. ... Dermot Barnes-Holmes Professor of Psychology and Head of Department Department of...
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Hello everyone! My name is Andrew Santanello, and I am a PsyD student at LaSalle University. I'm very new to RFT and ACT, but I think that I am starting to...
The 'loops' in computer programming are related to mathematical operations that provide 'no escape' such as the example you gave below. "Strange loops" are...
Perhaps you are correct Pat that the "strage loop" problem is regarding evaluations of experience as having the same qualities as the experience being...
ACT – RFT WORLD CONFERENCE SUBMISSION DEADLINE EXTENTION Hi all. The science committee is engaged in a conversation right now regarding some special...
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I agree. In my view, the transfer from "my performance is worthless" to "I am worthless" is what makes the loop a 'strange' loop rather than just a (garden...
I saw on the website that Dr. Zettle has an article in press concerning the treatment of math anxiety with ACT. I was wondering if anyone had any more info on...
Sorry Pat, but the computer programming example still works better for me! Our different histories, I guess. . . Also, I don't think anyone would try to track...
Dermot Barnes-Holmes
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Apr 3, 2003 10:06 am
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This is an excellent example of behavior that produces a paradoxical or self-defeating result. But why not call it just that? Even if it can also be described...
Couldn't agree more, John. In fact, I'm glad someone pointed that out. We ain't talking math, logic, or computer programming here. And if we want a technical...
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Apr 3, 2003 3:55 pm
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Undermining the feelings-cause-behavior assumption must occupy a good 20% of my clinical time. I suspect it's because it so often seems to apply, e.g., "When...
I'll try to briefly summarize the findings for you - a report of the research should I believe be in the next issue of The Psychological Record. Math anxious...
I must use that one with my undergrads! Thanks, D. ... Dermot Barnes-Holmes Professor of Psychology and Head of Department Department of Psychology National...
Dermot Barnes-Holmes
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What does it mean to accept? Perhaps one of you may find this excerpt from When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron an inspiring part of your day. Enjoy! An...
For what it's worth, I do not think it is so much a matter of 'what a strange loop is' as that there are probably different 'varieties' of 'strange loops' we...
Thanks for this, I find it really good and have enjoyed. Our culture train us to do exactly the opposite all the time. This is the work that we have to do...
Pema always seems to make clear how very "radical" 'radical acceptance' is! ... From: sgomezmartin [mailto:sgomez@...] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 5:49 AM ...
Behavior Therapy received 16 manuscripts for the special issue on ACT. Word has it that several appear very strong. My best info is that one decision letter...
I thought some on the list might find this poem of interest: http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/geese/geese.html R. Trent Codd, III, MA, EdS, LPC, CCMHC, NCC ...
I think the concept of "strange loop", as used in the ACT book, is metaphorical, not technical (e.g., when first used, it appears in inverted commas). In...
Dermot Barnes-Holmes
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I use the term "strange loops" clinically in ACT ... I say it directly to clients. It's not a technical term in those circumstances. I use it to refer to...
I agree that Strange Loop, as a term, is probably metaphorical. Nonetheless, in the book (ACT), "strange loops" is set off by a dash and the parenthetical...
David E. Lee
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Apr 7, 2003 10:55 pm
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I certainly agree that strange loop is referring to something that requires a technical analysis. "I am worthless" can function as a stimulus (a tracked rule)...
Dermot Barnes-Holmes
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Apr 8, 2003 10:05 am
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That works for me -- e.g., "an eliciting function that transfers through a relational network (the reaction to imminent awful things) that is not relaxing" ...
Dermot Barnes-Holmes
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This exchange on strange loops has been very fun to read. I think it is a great example of how the RFT list and the ACT list can interact and produce an...
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... Från: "Dermot Barnes-Holmes" <dermot.barnes-holmes@...> Till: <acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy@yahoogroups.com> Skickat: den 8 april 2003 20:30 Ämne:...
Niklas Törneke
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Apr 9, 2003 7:18 am
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A Yahoo group has been established to facilitate exchange of geographically relevant information for folk in Australia and New Zealand. This list will be low...
Graham Taylor
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Hi Dermot and everyone, I find this type of RFT analysis really useful and I agree that we need more of this. In fact, I think this piece address an ...
This is great! I think the transfer of functions between self-as-content and self-as-context is one that is especially difficult for an individual to ...
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