I really like this thread. I have one little piece that I think fits nicely alongside the answers provided by Steve, Kelly, and others. One of my colleagues,...
Very clearifying dialogue between Kelly and JT, I think. Thanks both for bringing this out on the list! One more example of how helpfull this list is! So far I...
Niklas Törneke
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Oct 3, 2004 4:07 pm
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We are charting new ground here--so the dialog is the thing. So, no, I don't think this is what is up for grabs when we talk about fusion. we already have a...
Kelly G. Wilson, Ph.D.
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Oct 3, 2004 7:08 pm
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I have been very much enjoying reading this discussion and would like to put in a few cents worth. Kelly's comments about not fusing with valued ends really...
john.billig@...
Oct 3, 2004 9:26 pm
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If anyone is interested in the Me-Bad data that Chad is referring to I would be glad to send you the manuscript. It is in press at Psych Record, but likely ...
rhn132@...
Oct 3, 2004 10:04 pm
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HI Mary, We struggle a bit with the problem here too (the Women's Trauma Tx Program at VA Palo Alto). Much of the treatment is CBT oriented with some direct ...
Hi Kelly (and all!) This is interesting but does not convince me, I must admitt. As a tremendous way of describing the outcome of defusion (and fusion) I...
Niklas Törneke
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Oct 4, 2004 6:01 pm
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Hi All: I have colleagues and friends who want to know about 'this ACT stuff'. Since it seems to me that a therapist practicing ACT is, at heart, someone who...
I completely agree that dialogue is the thing on this--we are charting new ground here, and I think we can all work together to help make the map. This is...
Hi all - I know that from time to time the question of where trainees can find ACT friendly internships/training programs comes up. So, I wanted to take a...
Once again for emphasis. In the (ABC) model, "B" stands for "belief," not thought. If your "A" (Activating Event) is a thought, you can change what you BELIEVE...
We will be happy to list these on the website, so if you have an internship program with ACT folk there please let me or Emily (my Context Press right hand ...
This defusion thread is a good one Terms like acceptance and defusion are middle level terms ... they are not quite yet technical terms but might be made so...
So, Kelly, there you are in a Finnish sauna as we are debating your definition of fusion... A few more lines on this. Let me start with a recent definition of...
Niklas Törneke
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Oct 5, 2004 5:40 pm
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From an ACT perspective it would seem that the first thing to try is straight-ahead acceptance, defusion, self stuff with values focused on the issue of acting...
Just want to emphasize Steve's distinction between angry thoughts, angry sensations and angry sensations AND bad behavior. The former doesn't "cause" the...
Re “From an RFT perspective the thing that seems most interesting to me is the whole issue of right and wrong. Over and over when I dig into anger I find...
patty bach
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Oct 6, 2004 5:50 am
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Hi Patty, Just a short note. It seems to me that the classical ACT-intervention in a situation like this is "works for what?" Aggression does work for...
Niklas Törneke
niklas.torneke@...
Oct 6, 2004 7:57 am
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In response to Patty's post below...entire wars have started as a result of respect/disrespect, the notion that violence works, etc. Unfortunately, it's so...
embedded commnets: hanging at the airport in Amsterdam jtb ... kgw when I said charting new ground, I menat that the analysis is ongoing. but if I look back at...
Kelly G. Wilson, Ph.D.
kwilson@...
Oct 6, 2004 11:01 am
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Niklas - nt It is a bit weird for me to question what you have written like this Kelly, I owe you so much! At least for me, though (and I think for others),...
Kelly G. Wilson, Ph.D.
kwilson@...
Oct 6, 2004 11:10 am
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In einer eMail vom 06.10.04 07:52:00 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt ... Hi Patty, another move in addition to that suggested by Niklas may be to go...
The idea of "that would never work in my neighborhood, trust me, you've never been there" comes up in my "anger management (how I dislike that term!)" classes....
A note to RFT and ACT folks world wide: There is an exciting opportunity opening up if you are doing any organizational work related to ACT and RFT and want to...
One question could be "does it work"? Does it get you what you want? "Oh, yes it does." OK, and, also, does it get you some things that you don't want at the...
Jason Gosnell
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Oct 6, 2004 3:34 pm
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This is interesting, I continue to watch for the outcome of the proccess.... Still not convinced to leave the "traditional" definition, though. And I can't see...
Niklas Törneke
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Oct 6, 2004 4:47 pm
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Kelly-- Thanks for your reply. I've extracted your points and bracketed them with carrots (>><<), and responded with points bracketed in asterisks. ... if I...
Does anyone have a paper that is relevant to RFT/self (evaluation, perspective-taking etc.) and still needs a home for ABA? If so--email me backchannel Thanks!...
rhn132@...
Oct 6, 2004 6:11 pm
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You guys are blowing my mind with this stuff. Probably too late in the afternoon for a meaningful response. I think fusion characterizes a good deal of human...
Hi All: On fusion and mindfulness - my two cents - probably too simplistic Talk about 'fusion' leads to talk about 'what is fused'. I think an RFT account...
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