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RE: [ASP] Classic ASP vs .NET

If you want to play in the .net arena, I highly recommend picking up one of the
ASP.NET Unleashed books by Stephen Walther.  Amazing author and his books are
great to start with. 
 
To get started, grab the latest (.net 3.5) book, download and install the .net
framework, visual web developer (http://www.microsoft.com/express/vwd/) and go
to town.
 
As always, use this list to no end.  There are a lot of good people with a
wealth of knowledge and all willing to help.
 
Mark

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Maria L Gaycheck <gaycheckml@...> wrote:

From: Maria L Gaycheck <gaycheckml@...>
Subject: RE: [ASP] Classic ASP vs .NET
To: active-server-pages@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 3:03 PM






I too kick it old school with classic ASP.
Which would be better to learn? There are so many coding options out there.
What about Php, Ruby and so on...

Where does one start with .NET?

Maria
www.gaycheckml. com


-----Original Message-----
From: active-server- pages@yahoogroup s.com
[mailto:active-server- pages@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of mark wills
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:33 PM
To: active-server- pages@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ASP] Classic ASP vs .NET

I think if you intend to do it for a living, then yes, it's essential.

I don't do web stuff for a living, so I've never bothered. Like you, I find
classic ASP to be perfect for my needs. I'm very comfortable with it, and
understand its foibles well.

For me, the .Net world, or maybe even the programming world in general is
deeply embroiled in what I call 'code snobbery': Everything is encapsulated,
factored to the point of stupidity, and generally more complex than it needs
to be.

I'm 37 and I regularly point out the younger chaps at work that we did just
fine without classes in the 80's!

I regularly peer review code (not web stuff) and I always comment on code
that is wrapped in a class for no reason (i.e only one instance of it). It's
'wrong' per-se, but it can lead to code snobbery and confusing, bloated
code!

Anyway, I'm getting off the point. Classic ASP's simplicity is it's
strength. It's so simple to connect it to a database it's unreal, and very
easy to learn.

I have no plans to ditch classic ASP!

I think it will be around for a long time yet, there must be millions of
lines of code out there!

Mark

Mark Wills, MSc MIAP
http://www.markwill <http://www.markwill s.co.uk> s.co.uk

----- Original Message ----
From: Lil Peck <lilpeck@gmail. <mailto:lilpeck% 40gmail.com> com>
To: active-server- <mailto:active- server-pages% 40yahoogroups. com>
pages@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, 29 June, 2008 4:50:50 PM
Subject: [ASP] Classic ASP vs .NET

I've become pretty proficient with ASP. I find coding with it to be
nearly as easy as it is to converse with people. It is so simple to
learn and to use. I find the simplicity to be elegant. I've written
many scripts and even some tutorials.

My daughter is a web admin/programmer for a large organization and she
taught herself .NET. She says I would be surprised at how easy it
really is.

But I really don't have to time to devote to becoming as competent
in .NET as I am in ASP.

I've noticed lately that when googling for code bits and tutorials on
ASP, that most of the results returned by google are for .NET.

Is there a compelling reason to learn and use .NET. Is classic ASP here
to stay?

--Lil

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I've become pretty proficient with ASP. I find coding with it to be nearly as easy as it is to converse with people. It is so simple to learn and to use. I...
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I think if you intend to do it for a living, then yes, it's essential. I don't do web stuff for a living, so I've never bothered. Like you, I find classic ASP...
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Probably the biggest area of concern will be lack of support for classic ASP.  You're seeing that yourself by stating the lack of material and references on...
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I too kick it old school with classic ASP. Which would be better to learn? There are so many coding options out there. What about Php, Ruby and so on... Where...
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If you want to play in the .net arena, I highly recommend picking up one of the ASP.NET Unleashed books by Stephen Walther.  Amazing author and his books are...
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Thank you, I guess I have to put down Umbrella Academy and read something more practical... Yes, it is a constant upkeep. Maria ... From:...
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The problem is that Classic ASP is a dead language in the eyes of most web developers and therefor Businesses. There's just SO much more you can do with .NET...
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Exactly. I have often felt overwhelmed by the huge number of namespaces and classes in .Net, just like Java! There are plenty of 'Beginning ASP.Net' book...
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I started with Classic ASP. We moved servers - ASP still worked. Then with a re-org, I needed to move my stuff from one server to another. The first 2 use...
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